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Enrolled week with best maintenance fee per point in US

DanCali said:
NCV Week 26:

5300 points for $2000 in MFs (plus taxes of about $200 billed separately, but that will depend on the purchase price). Gets to around $0.42/pt.
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The property taxes billed by the State of CA vary by the amount you purchased the unit? What were the property taxes specifically for a week 26 at Newport in 2025?
 
WahooWah said:
The property taxes billed by the State of CA vary by the amount you purchased the unit? What were the property taxes specifically for a week 26 at Newport in 2025?
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It seems to depend on the county. For Riverside County (Palm Desert), they seem to have assigned a fixed assessed value to each unit and season and thus the tax amount is the same regardless of what you paid. For Orange County, where NCV is, the assessed value is based on what you paid, so a developer purchaser might be paying a higher tax rate than a resale buyer. Different resale buyers may be paying a different tax amount.
 
dioxide45 said:
It seems to depend on the county. For Riverside County (Palm Desert), they seem to have assigned a fixed assessed value to each unit and season and thus the tax amount is the same regardless of what you paid. For Orange County, where NCV is, the assessed value is based on what you paid, so a developer purchaser might be paying a higher tax rate than a resale buyer. Different resale buyers may be paying a different tax amount.
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And I want to point out that not every timeshare resort in California has "unbundled" property taxes paid separately. I gather that a separate property tax bill is common but it is by no means ubiquitous. My weeks ownership at Westin Desert Willow does not pay separate property taxes.

Since nobody has said differently, I'll assume that the Marriott Tahoe and Newport properties do have to pay separate property taxes. Maybe all of the Marriott-branded timeshares in California are set up that way; seems to be a decision that Marriott made when they developed those properties.
 
Look at Park City Mountainside platinum plus week 7,51 or 52 is one of the best if not the best for US resorts (similar to Thailand but in perpetuity vs. RTU)
 
Shoot if you have a week that is only .38 per point for main fee you might as well travel the world using the cruises, guided tours, river boats, vacation homes…even the hotels…because your cost per point is around the same anyways…boy that would be nice! I would love that program…one can only wish! 🤬
 
Superchief said:
Beware of some Florida resorts due to the large increases in reserve requirements and poor expense management. Ocean Pointe's MF's have increase substantially over the past three years and are now have very high costs per point.
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I find that my maintenance fees per point are at least better than having the points maintenance fees. All three of my properties maintenance fees are less than pure Club points. My 13475 points average .64 per point. The Ko Olina property is the killer at .86./point, .56/point for Aruba Surf Club and .54 for my platinum oceanfront 2 bedroom. My total average per point for maintenance fees are .64/point. I believe that we can’t ignore that initial cost we paid as well. Platinum seasons are overall a better deal in the points world which is why I bought weeks to elect points. It was more cost effective and the maintenance fees were less.
 
daviator said:
And I want to point out that not every timeshare resort in California has "unbundled" property taxes paid separately. I gather that a separate property tax bill is common but it is by no means ubiquitous. My weeks ownership at Westin Desert Willow does not pay separate property taxes.

Since nobody has said differently, I'll assume that the Marriott Tahoe and Newport properties do have to pay separate property taxes. Maybe all of the Marriott-branded timeshares in California are set up that way; seems to be a decision that Marriott made when they developed those properties.
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Grand Residence pays tax separately. The assessed value is based on the purchase price, so two owners with the same unit will generally have different assessed values and different tax liability.
 
Dean said:
I think it's more complicated than that. Best per point is going to be Marriott Grand Residence Club, Lake Tahoe but it'll be a chunk up front and must then be enrolled. After that will be things like HI Platinum plus OF or Aruba OF Platinum plus. Crystal shores OF can also have a low year fee on a per point basis. The reason I said it's more complicated is the up front costs are not going to be there AND they are unlikely to be available for a hybrid.

I'd suggest looking at where you might like to stay repeatedly like HHI or MB Platinum for a hybrid though there are better ways to proceed if your goal is points. If you're mainly trying to get points, I'd look at buying a week(s) resale such as HHI Platinum then enrolling with a purchase from Spain.
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You cannot generally enrole a resale week unless you spend serious additional money with MVC for more points.
 
MALC9990 said:
You cannot generally enrole a resale week unless you spend serious additional money with MVC for more points.
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No doubt. It's always been expensive and got even more so about 3 years or so. Still, there are ways to get in if it's important, it's just significantly harder to make the numbers work than a few years ago.. I've had offers of under $15K to enroll 1 week or $20K for 2 weeks using Gold Spain weeks. Additional points and fees to boot. I've seen offers as low as under $4 PP but that was a Gold & Silver week in Spain with fees not that much under that of points but still a little less.
 
Marriottsrule said:
Shoot if you have a week that is only .38 per point for main fee you might as well travel the world using the cruises, guided tours, river boats, vacation homes…even the hotels…because your cost per point is around the same anyways…boy that would be nice! I would love that program…one can only wish! 🤬
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with a cost of point that low, you are better off renting them at .65 cents a point and you just increased your purchase power by 70% and you can go outside of Marriott and pay market price for world travel.
 
What is the cost for point for someone who owns a 1/4 chare at Grand Residences by Marriott.
 
Retired2025 aka AlmostRetired said:
What is the cost for point for someone who owns a 1/4 chare at Grand Residences by Marriott.
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I do not have the points chart to determine how many Abound points one would get for the various options as that and the purchase price of a resale option would be applicable if starting from scratch. The enrollment historically has required the purchase of 5000 additional points or the equivalent such as Aruba plus I believe $5000. So that's roughly $75-100K depending on specifics. Previous posts would put yearly fees under 30¢ PP. One note is that enrollment is independent of the yearly program to allow other enrollment and is year around. I do not know if one can enroll through Spain. Hopefully those more knowledgeable on specifics will post additional information. The recent conflict between MVC and the BOD adds some risk to the equation.
 
I have a 2 bedroom at the Grand Residence. The dues this year plus taxes were 21376.26. I average about 55,000 points for that 2 bedroom including to 5000 points you have to buy. That means cost per points for dues was $38.87. If you chose to go this route you have to buy from 1 of 2 places to be able to enroll with MVC. George at https://www.timesharecbselect.com/listings/ or Carl at https://timeshare-resale.com/time-s...ing_wp_cron=1614351187.5515880584716796875000
George has some pretty good deals right now. $70k for a 2 bedroom worth about 55,000 points a year or $100k for a 3 bedroom for like 75,000 points per year. You do have to buy 5000 points and a $5000 dollar fee. I can tell you the Marriott rep if you want to buy the 5000 points. DM me. I can tell you another way to save as well that isn't that pertinent to this discussion. All in on the 2 bedroom you are about ~$150k for 55,000 points or $2.72 per point to buy and ~$180k for the 3 bedroom or $2.40 per point to buy. It's hard to beat especially when MVC is selling for like $16 per point. And on top of that it's $38.87 per point for dues. That 3 bedroom would even be lower.
 
Likes to Travel said:
I have a 2 bedroom at the Grand Residence. The dues this year plus taxes were 21376.26. I average about 55,000 points for that 2 bedroom including to 5000 points you have to buy. That means cost per points for dues was $38.87. If you chose to go this route you have to buy from 1 of 2 places to be able to enroll with MVC. George at https://www.timesharecbselect.com/listings/ or Carl at https://timeshare-resale.com/time-s...ing_wp_cron=1614351187.5515880584716796875000
George has some pretty good deals right now. $70k for a 2 bedroom worth about 55,000 points a year or $100k for a 3 bedroom for like 75,000 points per year. You do have to buy 5000 points and a $5000 dollar fee. I can tell you the Marriott rep if you want to buy the 5000 points. DM me. I can tell you another way to save as well that isn't that pertinent to this discussion. All in on the 2 bedroom you are about ~$150k for 55,000 points or $2.72 per point to buy and ~$180k for the 3 bedroom or $2.40 per point to buy. It's hard to beat especially when MVC is selling for like $16 per point. And on top of that it's $38.87 per point for dues. That 3 bedroom would even be lower.
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That should be $0.3887 MF per point, not $38.87
 
Fasttr said:
That should be $0.3887 MF per point, not $38.87
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Almost $40/pt would be steep!

My Dad use to tell me that young engineers would do a calculation through software and the answer they gave was essentially that an engine turbine blade was about 200 miles long. They would insist they did the calculation correctly, and he's just shake his head before asking them how big the engine must be to hold those long blades.
 
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