E-Plus questions

[davidvel]

I have recently had an exchange on this very issue with Mark Delcampo, the II rep here for TUG members.
Most of our weeks are Developer purchases and enrolled.
A few more recent weeks are Resale purchases and Sod’s law these were the ones we had to cancel bookings for because of Covid-19.
Mark very kindly looked to see if there was anyway we could trade these through our corporate Interval account, even as a one off, but sadly we couldn’t so we had to pay to reactivate our Personal Interval account and will also have to pay Exchange fees.
I have never before heard of anyone being able to use unenrolled Resale weeks with their Corporate Interval account?

You're remembering correctly. There were posts where people say that you could do this if: the two weeks are same resort and same season and you have not deposited your enrolled week into your corporate account.

In this case people have reported that they have deposited their non-enrolled week into their corporate account, and there did not appear to be any cross check as to the source of the week (enrolled vs. non enrolled), just that it is the correct resort, season and size.

I'm trying to recall why this would benefit someone as you could have just traded your enrolled week through the corporate account (no ability to trade both weeks IIRC.

 

[tschwa2]

Okay, so one question answered: I looked back at my credit card, and I did not pay an exchange fee for my initial trade M-M! I did buy e-plus, as I didn’t realize M-M had no fees! Considering I’d primarily choose Marriott anyway, waste of $59. I was only charged $118, which was the upgrade from studio to 2br fee (plus separate $59 charge for e-plus).

My resale week is definitely in the same account as my enrolled week, and it isn’t enrolled (nor am I really interested in enrolling it).

Is your resale week the same resort/size/season as one of your enrolled week?

You're remembering correctly. There were posts where people say that you could do this if: the two weeks are same resort and same season and you have not deposited your enrolled week into your corporate account.

In this case people have reported that they have deposited their non-enrolled week into their corporate account, and there did not appear to be any cross check as to the source of the week (enrolled vs. non enrolled), just that it is the correct resort, season and size.

I'm trying to recall why this would benefit someone as you could have just traded your enrolled week through the corporate account (no ability to trade both weeks IIRC.

This would mean you could use your enrolled week as points through the DC and then deposit the un-enrolled week into the corporate account to avoid the exchange fee. II is just calling to verify the deposit not necessarily that that specific week is enrolled and eligible to be deposited into the corporate account. They have no idea what happened to the enrolled week and they don't care.

 

[amyhwang]

Do you don't pay a separate II annual membership fee for your resale week?

No, both are in the same II account. I just pay the one to Marriott with my annual enrollment fee.

Yes, both my weeks are identical, 2br Mountain View EOY odd years, tschwa2. All weeks other than 51/52 are platinum season.

 

[Pamplemousse]

No, both are in the same II account. I just pay the one to Marriott with my annual enrollment fee.

Yes, both my weeks are identical, 2br Mountain View EOY odd years, tschwa2. All weeks other than 51/52 are platinum season.

Thanks Amy that make sense now. Lucky (or skillful) you!

 

[davidvel]

Is your resale week the same resort/size/season as one of your enrolled week?

This would mean you could use your enrolled week as points through the DC and then deposit the un-enrolled week into the corporate account to avoid the exchange fee. II is just calling to verify the deposit not necessarily that that specific week is enrolled and eligible to be deposited into the corporate account. They have no idea what happened to the enrolled week and they don't care.

Yes, that what it was, converting the enrolled week for points and trading the regular week in the corporate account.

 

[davidvel]

No, both are in the same II account. I just pay the one to Marriott with my annual enrollment fee.

Yes, both my weeks are identical, 2br Mountain View EOY odd years, tschwa2. All weeks other than 51/52 are platinum season.

To clarify, your II account shows 2 of the same unit for the same year? Could you take a screen snip?

 

[amyhwang]

To clarify, your II account shows 2 of the same unit for the same year? Could you take a screen snip?

I can’t figure out how. I just see points option and my week options under “my units”. But the deposit was the unenrolled resale week.

 

[dioxide45]

I can’t figure out how. I just see points option and my week options under “my units”. But the deposit was the unenrolled resale week.

WIth an enrolled account, you will have the both the MCZ unit (Marriott Vacation Club Destinations) and your actual week/unit that you own listed under 'My Units'. What David is asking is, is your resale unit listed twice under 'My Units'?

 

[amyhwang]

WIth an enrolled account, you will have the both the MCZ unit (Marriott Vacation Club Destinations) and your actual week/unit that you own listed under 'My Units'. What David is asking is, is your resale unit listed twice under 'My Units'?

No, it’s listed once. Also the MCZ is listed. Weird thing is it’s listed for 2020, 2021, and 2022 as far as deposit (which hasn’t changed, as if I click it to deposit it, it then asks for dates and confirmation numbers). Only thing that changed when I enrolled the one week and got the new account is that the Destinations is there under my units the last few years.

 

[dioxide45]

No, it’s listed once. Also the MCZ is listed. Weird thing is it’s listed for 2020, 2021, and 2022 as far as deposit (which hasn’t changed, as if I click it to deposit it, it then asks for dates and confirmation numbers). Only thing that changed when I enrolled the one week and got the new account is that the Destinations is there under my units the last few years.

That is how it would look with an enrolled week. The MCZ is created when they create the corporate account so you can trade with points and the actual week unit is listed so you can trade with weeks. Your resale week technically isn't in your II corporate account, it is the enrolled week that is there, but because they are the same resort and unit you are able to deposit the resale week in to the same account.

 

[elked12]

I own an enrolled 2 Bd Oceanside gold week at Aruba Surf Club. Does this mean if I go ahead and purchase the exact same one resale I could do what Amyhwang is doing?

 

[dioxide45]

I own an enrolled 2 Bd Oceanside gold week at Aruba Surf Club. Does this mean if I go ahead and purchase the exact same one resale I could do what Amyhwang is doing?

That seems to be the case. Though at some point Marriott could close the loophole.

 

[tschwa2]

I own an enrolled 2 Bd Oceanside gold week at Aruba Surf Club. Does this mean if I go ahead and purchase the exact same one resale I could do what Amyhwang is doing?

You wouldn't be able to deposit both in the same year. You could deposit one in II and use the other (yourself or rent it out) or deposit one in II and convert the other to Destination points. So both aren't listed in the corporate account. Only a single one is listed but II and MIVC doesn't seem to catch on if you use the confirmation from the unenrolled week to deposit into the corporate account. It's always possible if MIVC or II updates their systems that this back door technique would stop working.

 

[dioxide45]

You wouldn't be able to deposit both in the same year. You could deposit one in II and use the other (yourself or rent it out) or deposit one in II and convert the other to Destination points. So both aren't listed in the corporate account. Only a single one is listed but II and MIVC doesn't seem to catch on if you use the confirmation from the unenrolled week to deposit into the corporate account. It's always possible if MIVC or II updates their systems that this back door technique would stop working.

Has anyone ever verified this? We have seen this posed as plausible, but no confirmation that one can only either deposit or use DC points. I own Harbour Lake and after I make my first deposit of one side of the lock off, I can call in and get a Supplemental Week deposit for the second half. Others have been told that adding additional weeks of the same resort/unit to their individual II account isn't necessary since they can do the same to deposit additional weeks after the first.

 

[tschwa2]

Has anyone ever verified this? We have seen this posed as plausible, but no confirmation that one can only either deposit or use DC points. I own Harbour Lake and after I make my first deposit of one side of the lock off, I can call in and get a Supplemental Week deposit for the second half. Others have been told that adding additional weeks of the same resort/unit to their individual II account isn't necessary since they can do the same to deposit additional weeks after the first.

So your question is if even if there isn't an option to deposit 2 weeks (one enrolled and one not enrolled) online, have owners successfully been able to call and get both units deposited into the corporate II account having owned identical unit types?

Hopefully if there are those who tried to do this will chime in on their success.

 

[Dean]

No, it’s listed once. Also the MCZ is listed. Weird thing is it’s listed for 2020, 2021, and 2022 as far as deposit (which hasn’t changed, as if I click it to deposit it, it then asks for dates and confirmation numbers). Only thing that changed when I enrolled the one week and got the new account is that the Destinations is there under my units the last few years.

So the non enrolled week was deposited in the enrolled week slot if I'm understanding correctly. Did you deposit it or did MVC themselves? We've long speculated that a non enrolled week might be able to be deposited into the enrolled week slot. You would not be able to deposit both in the same year I don't believe. There's always the risk that they will cancel the deposit later but usually a few weeks, not months later.

 

[dioxide45]

So your question is if even if there isn't an option to deposit 2 weeks (one enrolled and one not enrolled) online, have owners successfully been able to call and get both units deposited into the corporate II account having owned identical unit types?

Hopefully if there are those who tried to do this will chime in on their success.

I believe @Saintsfanfl was told that you don't need to have a unit week under My Units for every week you own. As long as you have one unit listed you can really deposit any number of weeks against that unit in your account. All subsequent deposits show up as a Supplemental Week, but they act the same as a regular deposit.

 

[amyhwang]

So the non enrolled week was deposited in the enrolled week slot if I'm understanding correctly. Did you deposit it or did MVC themselves? We've long speculated that a non enrolled week might be able to be deposited into the enrolled week slot. You would not be able to deposit both in the same year I don't believe. There's always the risk that they will cancel the deposit later but usually a few weeks, not months later.

I reserved the studio for 4th of July week, then deposited it with II myself.

 

[Dean]

I reserved the studio for 4th of July week, then deposited it with II myself.

That's why, you deposited LIKE it was the enrolled portion. There's a chance they may figure it out later and cancel the deposit but when this happens it's usually around a month roughly from when you deposited. So if you get one of those postcards, look at it as it might be a cancelation rather than some other offer. Also keep an eye on your account.

 

[vlapinta]

This is what I ended up doing. My exchange was into Lake Tahoe for August 9 2020. I was able to add Eplus in July. I just moved it to something for May 2021. This will give me much more time to find something I can use.

 

[csalter2]

This is what I ended up doing. My exchange was into Lake Tahoe for August 9 2020. I was able to add Eplus in July. I just moved it to something for May 2021. This will give me much more time to find something I can use.

I made a similar move today. I had an exchange that Marriott gave me and used it for a Vidante Grande Luxxe in Puerto Vallarta which was scheduled for August 2nd. Today I called Interval International I had E-plus, and I was able to push it to a reservation in Williamsburg for June 2021 when it had an expiration of December 8, 2020. It gives me more time to wait for more inventory to become available.

 

[m61376]

I added an Eplus to a 2BR deposit and extended it out a year, which will expire in August. I'd rather use the 2BR exchange next Fall/winter; using up the Covid cancellations/deposits. Can I extend it out by cancelling the plus exchange, or since I already did Eplus are my options limited? I know whatever I do has to be done greater than 60 days. I'm an enrolled owner.
Thanks for the help!

 

[dioxide45]

I added an Eplus to a 2BR deposit and extended it out a year, which will expire in August. I'd rather use the 2BR exchange next Fall/winter; using up the Covid cancellations/deposits. Can I extend it out by cancelling the plus exchange, or since I already did Eplus are my options limited? I know whatever I do has to be done greater than 60 days. I'm an enrolled owner.
Thanks for the help!

When did your original deposit expire?

 

[m61376]

oops-, meant to quote @dioxide45
The original deposit expired in August of 2022 and the Eplus extended it to August of 2023

 

[dioxide45]

oops-, meant to quote @dioxide45
The original deposit expired in August of 2022 and the Eplus extended it to August of 2023

I am not sure how easy it will be use next fall or winter (if you mean fall/winter 2024). If you use an Eplus retrade to retrade out as far as you can right now, which would be August 2023, then you can cancel the exchange and take a Cancellation Replacement week. You would want to do this before you get into the 60 day window, which would be sometime in June. The problem here is that your cancellation replacement expires one year from the date you cancel it. It would thus expire in June 2024. I beleive that the cancellation replacement loses the exchange fee discount when trading Marriott to Marriott/Vistana. So you might need to pay the full exchange fee when you make an exchange with the cancellation replacement week. I do beleive however that when you make an exchange with the cancellation replacement week that you can add ePlus again to possibly get your expiration all the way out to sometime in 2025.