DVC moving to II effective Jan 1 2022 [MERGED]

[pedro47]

This is an early Christmas gift from II.

 

[mdurette]

Oh yeah!!!!
Best timeshare news I have heard in a long time!

 

[dioxide45]

Yes, you will have access to a lot of "Getaway" inventory. It is great inventory.

Does Disney block their members from trading back into non-dvc Orlando resorts?

I don't think so, but DVC usually blocks other Orlando resorts from trading into DVC in Orlando. I am not sure why a DVC owner would want to trade their DVC points into a non DVC resort in Orlando though.

I guess a bigger question is though, what will this do to have a whole bunch of new members competing for getaway and AC inventory when DVC certainly won't be contributing much if any inventory that will make it to Getaways?

 

[Angel1123]

So II will be new for me. I own points through Wyndham and deposit into RCI currently. So when I see great weeks posted on the sightings/distressed threads, ie Marriott Newport Villas, are those normally exchanges or getaways? I’m anxious to get to learn a new system!

 

[TheHolleys87]

a few Marriotts trade via RCI.

I didn't know that! Which ones?

 

[got4boys]

Yes, you will have access to a lot of "Getaway" inventory. It is great inventory.

Does Disney block their members from trading back into non-dvc Orlando resorts?

Yes, they did in the past. You could not trade into DVC in Interval International if you owned a property in Orlando. For example, if you owned Marriott Grand Vista, it would block you from trading into a DVC property.

 

[elaine]

I didn't know that! Which ones?

I think the Palms and Cypress Harbour--though there are very few deposits. I've gotten a Palms before. But, HGVC are very nice. That'd be my non-DVC go to. DH is not liking the "new normal" as of Jan 1! Our "kids" are in their 20s. I told him we'd need offsite anyway as we can't continue to squeeze into a 1BR DVC! And, unless I get a AKV value 2BR with DVC points, we're not using DVC points for a 2 BR when offsite is 1/4 of the price!

 

[rickandcindy23]

I didn't know that! Which ones?

Cypress Harbour shows up as that and not as Marriott's Cypress Harbour. Royal Palms, Sabal Palms, Imperial Palms (rare to see anything in RCI, but you can enter a search). Also, they don't show up as Gold Crown. They are tough to spot. I have seen some in Hilton Head as well, the older ones.

 

[TheHolleys87]

I am not sure why a DVC owner would want to trade their DVC points into a non DVC resort in Orlando though.

A lot of DVC owners who deposited points to RCI as a desperate move to save points they would have lost from COVID asked whether they could trade back in to DVC and were very disappointed to learn that they couldn't even use those points in Orlando.

 

[rickandcindy23]

So II will be new for me. I own points through Wyndham and deposit into RCI currently. So when I see great weeks posted on the sightings/distressed threads, ie Marriott Newport Villas, are those normally exchanges or getaways? I’m anxious to get to learn a new system!

I don't think Wyndham will let you deposit to II, unless you own the few that are also II. Wish I could use II with Wyndham points. I would definitely do that.

 

[travelhacker]

I don't think so, but DVC usually blocks other Orlando resorts from trading into DVC in Orlando. I am not sure why a DVC owner would want to trade their DVC points into a non DVC resort in Orlando though.

I guess a bigger question is though, what will this do to have a whole bunch of new members competing for getaway and AC inventory when DVC certainly won't be contributing much if any inventory that will make it to Getaways?

This was my concern. I have REALLY enjoyed paying for getaways in Orlando, and to suddenly have competition from 220,000 rabid Disney fans could alter the dynamics of that greatly.

 

[bnoble]

Do you happen to recall in II if you could trade a summer Sheraton Broadway Plantation 2BR for a DVC 1BR?

A lot has changed in II since DVC was last there. But back in the day I was able to get DVC exchanges with an unbranded summer Wisconsin week. So I'm guessing summer SBP will have more than enough trade power.

I am not sure why a DVC owner would want to trade their DVC points into a non DVC resort in Orlando though.

They wouldn't, but a few might want to book one of the getaways to extend a DVC stay in the area.

I have REALLY enjoyed paying for getaways in Orlando, and to suddenly have competition from 220,000 rabid Disney fans could alter the dynamics of that greatly.

I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Most DVC owners wouldn't dream of setting foot outside The Bubble. They'd rather eat glass shards.

 

[TheHolleys87]

This was my concern. I have REALLY enjoyed paying for getaways in Orlando, and to suddenly have competition from 220,000 rabid Disney fans could alter the dynamics of that greatly.

If DVC restrictions are the same as they were with RCI, DVC points deposited to II won't be able to be used for II resorts within about 30 miles of WDW. I don't know about the cash getaways - I never looked at what was available through the DVC RCI portal, but I wouldn't be surprised if DVC members didn't see anything in Orlando. I'm waiting eagerly for the full information.

 

[Janann]

The huge unknown right now is the number of DVC points that will be needed to trade into II. The DVC points requirement with RCI was rarely a good value. The only one that I remember as a good value was DVC --> RCI for the Manhattan Club in New York.

I'm bummed that I will no longer have the option to use my HGVC points to trade into DVC. My DVC points were my first option, but sometimes RCI had better availability for a 7 night stay than a direct booking with DVC.

On the upside, there is a chance that I'll find something valuable with II. I have never traded with II before, so there are bound to be a few resorts that I really want to visit.

 

[marsh0013]

I have to learn about II as well. I’ve always deposited my week into RCI and have gotten 32-34 TPU. DVC weeks have usually been around 45 TPU so we’ve normally combined 2 years and been able to get DVC at least 2 out of every 3 years. Gotten lucky with some lower TPUs along the way and last minute bargains that stretched us further.

My week is prime summer in a 1-bedroom at Country Club Villas in Myrtle Beach area. Shows as “highest relative demand” on the II demand chart. But I don’t know what that actually means. If that’s not enough on its own to trade for DVC, does II let you combine weeks? I have lots of learning to do!


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[travelhacker]

The huge unknown right now is the number of DVC points that will be needed to trade into II. The DVC points requirement with RCI was rarely a good value. The only one that I remember as a good value was DVC --> RCI for the Manhattan Club in New York.

I'm bummed that I will no longer have the option to use my HGVC points to trade into DVC. My DVC points were my first option, but sometimes RCI had better availability for a 7 night stay than a direct booking with DVC.

On the upside, there is a chance that I'll find something valuable with II. I have never traded with II before, so there are bound to be a few resorts that I really want to visit.

I think in most cases you are better off renting your DVC points, and booking with cash to wherever you want to stay.

However, I do think that II is a much more appealing option to DVC members than RCI.

 

[bnoble]

The huge unknown right now is the number of DVC points that will be needed to trade into II.

If memory serves, the point charts didn't change with the move to RCI. I'd expect them to stay the same going back.

 

[pedro47]

I didn't know that! Which ones?

Monarch at Sea Pines for one

 

[JulieAB]

Ugh, I'm sad! I love the transparency of RCI. You knew exactly if your week could catch DVC or how many weeks you needed to combine. With II's system priorities it seems like all the average Joes are out of luck trying to trade in now.

 

[bnoble]

I didn't know that! Which ones?

There are a handful. None of them use the word "Marriott" anywhere in the resort description, but there is a link to vacationclub.com or its equivalent. I don't think you can search on it though.

 

[GrayFal]

Yes, that would be an easy trade. I also had great success with my Foxrun weeks. I think I will move my remaining Foxrun back to II from RCI now.

It will be interesting to see if Foxrun has the quality to pull DVC. I know it used to. If not, you have Willow Ridge and provably summer SBP.

 

[rickandcindy23]

It will be interesting to see if Foxrun has the quality to pull DVC. I know it used to. If not, you have Willow Ridge and provably summer SBP.

I do have my Sheraton Broadway weeks, those 1 bedrooms will probably pull the one bedrooms in Disney. Our daughter would love to get 2 bedrooms for her family. I may pay 2023 fees and deposit some SBP into II. I am out of deposits right now.

 

[escanoe]

Will this take the 2BR DVC units out of the Registry Collection, which is owned by RCI. Where will they go?

 

[GrayFal]

I do have my Sheraton Broadway weeks, those 1 bedrooms will probably pull the one bedrooms in Disney. Our daughter would love to get 2 bedrooms for her family. I may pay 2023 fees and deposit some SBP into II. I am out of deposits right now.

It will be interesting to see if there are two bedrooms or will they continue the 1BR trend.

 

[JulieAB]

I have Lifetime in Hawaii which is a great trader in RCI. Any thoughts in II? I wasn't attached to my RCI account for anything besides DVC really, though I did get tons of great trades with my high TPU weeks! I have a glut of points though, so I'm willing to try depositing my 2022 week in II.