Deeded back - Hilton Grand Vacations Club on the Boulevard, Las Vegas 5440 points every other year

[skepticalone]

Does HGVC sell these resale deeds directly, without broker involvement?

 

[alwysonvac]

Does HGVC sell these resale deeds directly, without broker involvement?

I don't understand your question.

Are you asking if HGVC owners can resell their timeshares ownership without broker involvement?
If so, yes. Most will use a closing company to handle the transfer (just like a broker would).

 

[skepticalone]

I don't understand your question.

Are you asking if HGVC owners can resell their timeshares ownership without broker involvement?
If so, yes. Most will use a closing company to handle the transfer (just like a broker would).

But how do I find owners willing to sell? If I go to HGVC and ask them for specific inventory, can HGVC be the one reaching out to owners inquiring if they are willing to sell?

 

[dioxide45]

But how do I find owners willing to sell? If I go to HGVC and ask them for specific inventory, can HGVC be the one reaching out to owners inquiring if they are willing to sell?

HGVC resells the deeds as full freight developer sale

If you are looking to buy a resale HGVC deed then look to EBay, Redweek or TUG Marketplace.

 

[alwysonvac]

But how do I find owners willing to sell? If I go to HGVC and ask them for specific inventory, can HGVC be the one reaching out to owners inquiring if they are willing to sell?

Would you go to a car dealership and ask them to reach out to owners willing to sell? No
Private sales are not handled through HGVC.

You can find timeshares for sale by owners & brokers on the following site:
TUG Free Timeshare forum (link)
TUG Marketplace (link)
Ebay (link)
Redweek.com (link)
MyResortNetwork.com (link)

 

[skepticalone]

Would you go to a car dealership and ask them to reach out to owners willing to sell? No
Private sales are not handled through HGVC.

You can find timeshares for sale by owners & brokers on the following site:
TUG Free Timeshare forum (link)
TUG Marketplace (link)
Ebay (link)
Redweek.com (link)
MyResortNetwork.com (link)

What about the brokers that claim to work directly with HGVC? Some of which well reviewed on here?

 

[alwysonvac]

What about the brokers that claim to work directly with HGVC? Some of which well reviewed on here?

Those brokers would simply add the listing to their website.
It is listed like any other ad on their website. There is no special handling or notation on the listing. For example (link)

 

[skepticalone]

Those brokers would simply add the listing to their website.
It is listed like any other ad on their website. There is no special handling or notation on the listing. For example (link)

But where do they get this inventory from?

 

[alwysonvac]

But where do they get this inventory from?

Owners will contact brokers directly OR Owners will contact HGVC who will direct them to the broker (see link and screen capture below).

The following is from https://club.hiltongrandvacations.c...l&utm_source=arda-landingpg&utm_campaign=arda

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[CalGalTraveler]

You can also post a request for the exact unit you want on a the TUG wish list. Also on FB Hilton resale board.

Also negotiate with seller listings on the sites @dioxide listed. There are many listings available and as end of year maint fees approach many want to dump and avoid another year of maint fees. Now is a good time to start looking.

Lastly, some brokers like JudiK and CarlThoms have access to these deedbacks.

 

[skepticalone]

You can also post a request for the exact unit you want on a the TUG wish list. Also on FB Hilton resale board.

Also negotiate with seller listings on the sites @dioxide listed. There are many listings available and as end of year maint fees approach many want to dump and avoid another year of maint fees. Now is a good time to start looking.

Lastly, some brokers like JudiK and CarlThoms have access to these deedbacks.

Can you share the brokers contact info? Many thanks in advance.

 

[Kumo]

My sign in no longer works on HGV saying I'm no longer a member. THANK YOU everyone on here for a great forum and wealth of information to help ignorant ones ( such as myself ) come to a resolution.

 

[alwysonvac]

My sign in no longer works on HGV saying I'm no longer a member. THANK YOU everyone on here for a great forum and wealth of information to help ignorant ones ( such as myself ) come to a resolution.

Thanks for sharing. Congratulations

 

[dioxide45]

If you are looking for a specific unit type that isn’t all that common on resale a broker may be an option. Tell them what you want and they can contact you if they get something. You will pay more than you might through other methods but that is for the service they are providing you.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Does HGVC sell these resale deeds directly, without broker involvement?

I am just guessing, I guess, but I'm sure the returned deeds go back into Developer inventory, not to a broker. In the case of EOYs, I would think the EOY deed doesn't need to "naturally" exist. It only exists b/c they convinced someone to buy it. WHen they get it back, they probably match it up with a EOEOy and create a std Annual deed. but who really cares?

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Can you share the brokers contact info?

I recommend Diane Nadeau. Her contact info is on one of her listing in TUG Marketplace For Sale listings in Hawaii, 3rd or 4th one down: $3000 for Kings Land by HGV, 11200 Points. Quickly clicking thru others will prob get you other brokers. above recs for others will focus you on whom to look for.

 

[ladyR]

Get access to the Hilton Grand Vacations Club network of 63+ resorts with a very low maintenance fee of $910.61 (for 2023) paid only ALTERNATE years.
You get 5440 points (4928 remaining for this interval), which equates to a 1 Bedroom, gold season every Odd year starting 2025 (you can access the points beginning immediately using RCI) - so this is a free way to get into the network, or enhance your existing HGVC points.

Maintenance fees are due January 1, 2024. I am willing to split these with the new owner

I will pay all title transfer fees.

Home resort is The Boulevard, a Hilton Grand Vacations Club (Las Vegas) but you can use the points at any HGVC resort or RCI resort (does not include new resorts added via Diamon Resorts acquisition).

- Access to over 60 HGVC resorts across Hawaii, Florida, California, South Carolina, Colorado, Utah, Scotland, Italy, Portugal and other destinations.
- Can use points to book at RCI Resorts - a very large number of destinations worldwide

- Access to book at deeply discounted "open season" rates for travel within 4 weeks. Example 1: For Sep 2023, Hilton Grand Waikikian which is available at $440/night+tax = $1700 for 3 nights to non-owners (via Expedia etc.) is available to HGVC owners at just $208/night (same dates) WITHOUT using any HGVC points.

- Points can also be converted to Hilton HHonors to book at any Hilton hotel (instead of one week, you will likely get only 2-3 nights depending on hotel selected)
- Points can also be used towards club partners including El Monte RV rentals, Yatch rentals, O.A.R.S. Adventure travel, cruises etc.

Hello, is this HGVC resort available? Thank you!

 

[alwysonvac]

Hello, is this HGVC resort available? Thank you!

No, the owner started a deedback.

 

[TIMSCHAEFER]

No, the owner started a deedback.

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Hi SpaceSkier, would you mind sharing the phone number or email address that you used to start the process of the deedback with HGVC?
Thanks, Tim

 

[alwysonvac]

Hi SpaceSkier, would you mind sharing the phone number or email address that you used to start the process of the deedback with HGVC?
Thanks, Tim

Send an email to pfoliosvc@hgvc.com

Telling them that you wish to initiate a voluntary surrender of your ownership. Indicate that your ownership is paid off with no outstanding balance. Ask them to send to you the appropriate forms/paperwork to initiate the voluntary surrender. Include your resort name, resort location, number of points, and contract number.

Here’s a link to the HGVC deed back sticky thread which is located at the top of the HGVC Forum

HGVC's Deed Back Process

As of 12/28/2023 The contact email for HGVC deed back is pfoliosvc@hgvc.com. No additional fees as of 12/28/2023 May take 90-120 days to process the deed back. HOA VOLUNTARY SURRENDER PROGRAM TERMS AND CONDITIONS Other terms and conditions to the Voluntary Surrender Agreement (“Agreement”): 1...

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[TIMSCHAEFER]

Send an email to pfoliosvc@hgvc.com

Telling them that you wish to initiate a voluntary surrender of your ownership. Indicate that your ownership is paid off with no outstanding balance. Ask them to send to you the appropriate forms/paper to initiate the voluntary surrender. Include your resort name, resort location, number of points, and contract number.

Here’s a link to the HGVC deed back sticky thread which is located at the top of the HGVC Forum

HGVC's Deed Back Process

As of 12/28/2023 The contact email for HGVC deed back is pfoliosvc@hgvc.com. No additional fees as of 12/28/2023 May take 90-120 days to process the deed back. HOA VOLUNTARY SURRENDER PROGRAM TERMS AND CONDITIONS Other terms and conditions to the Voluntary Surrender Agreement (“Agreement”): 1...

tugbbs.com

Thanks for the information...I will try that. (I'm concerned though since I still owe on the loan and behind on the HOA fees.)

 

[alwysonvac]

Thanks for the information...I will try that. (I'm concerned though since I still owe on the loan and behind on the HOA fees.)

Oh then they will take you down a different path for outstanding loan payments and fees.

The following slide is from HGV's June 2024 investor overview presentation showing their delinquency process (see below).

TUG has two sticky threads that you might find helpful. One is tracking credit report & collections. The other is on state specific laws regarding timeshare loans & maintenance fees

[ 2022 ] Timeshare Default Credit Report/Collection Tracking

Some of you know I have been tracking this. Out of four (4) more TS defaults reported on TUG Facebook, one (1) got his credit affected. I have tabbed the following stats(updated 5/2022): TS defaults w credit drops: 47 out of 107 TS defaults w collections: 12 out of 107 TS defaults w...

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Links to Official State Timeshare Laws and Guides/Manuals

@TUGBrian @DeniseM @CalGalTraveler take a look. This weekend, I’m creating a spreadsheet with official links to states’ timeshare laws, as well as their statuses as to non-judicial, anti-deficiency foreclosures. In the meantime, I will just keep adding notes. * Legal Disclaimer: This list...

tugbbs.com

Here are some links to previous discussions on the TUG HGVC Forum

HGVC non-judicial foreclosure

I was out of work for a year with Long-Haul COVID. I was unable to keep up the payments on my 2 HGVC properties. I received notices on both timeshares about non-judicial foreclosures. Will Hilton ALLOW me to save one property from foreclosure and let the other one foreclose? I would like to...

tugbbs.com

Offered Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure. Advice needed on moving forward..

Hello, We purchased a 1BR timeshare from HGVC at Las Palmeras, Orlando about an year back after falling for their marketing tactics. We took a loan from them for 25K and put 5K on the Amex Hilton Credit Card that they got us approved for. We found discrepancy in the model room that we were...

tugbbs.com

Advice needed - walk out of mortgage tied to HGV Florida T/S

Hello, I'm a 22yr old non-resident alien resided within the US, in 2019, I was hyped by salesman along with my parent's approval of it (it was really dumb of me to not do any researches first, which is my fault). Up till now, I did not realize that this was a corporate scam and now I'm unable to...

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[TUGBrian]

Oh then they will take you down a different path for outstanding loan payments and fees.

The following slide is from HGV's June 2024 investor overview presentation showing their delinquency process (see below).

View attachment 98681​

TUG has two sticky threads that you might find helpful. One is tracking credit report & collections. The other is on state specific laws regarding timeshare loans & maintenance fees

[ 2022 ] Timeshare Default Credit Report/Collection Tracking

Some of you know I have been tracking this. Out of four (4) more TS defaults reported on TUG Facebook, one (1) got his credit affected. I have tabbed the following stats(updated 5/2022): TS defaults w credit drops: 47 out of 107 TS defaults w collections: 12 out of 107 TS defaults w...

tugbbs.com

Links to Official State Timeshare Laws and Guides/Manuals

@TUGBrian @DeniseM @CalGalTraveler take a look. This weekend, I’m creating a spreadsheet with official links to states’ timeshare laws, as well as their statuses as to non-judicial, anti-deficiency foreclosures. In the meantime, I will just keep adding notes. * Legal Disclaimer: This list...

tugbbs.com

Here are some links to previous discussions on the TUG HGVC Forum

HGVC non-judicial foreclosure

I was out of work for a year with Long-Haul COVID. I was unable to keep up the payments on my 2 HGVC properties. I received notices on both timeshares about non-judicial foreclosures. Will Hilton ALLOW me to save one property from foreclosure and let the other one foreclose? I would like to...

tugbbs.com

Offered Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure. Advice needed on moving forward..

Hello, We purchased a 1BR timeshare from HGVC at Las Palmeras, Orlando about an year back after falling for their marketing tactics. We took a loan from them for 25K and put 5K on the Amex Hilton Credit Card that they got us approved for. We found discrepancy in the model room that we were...

tugbbs.com

Advice needed - walk out of mortgage tied to HGV Florida T/S

Hello, I'm a 22yr old non-resident alien resided within the US, in 2019, I was hyped by salesman along with my parent's approval of it (it was really dumb of me to not do any researches first, which is my fault). Up till now, I did not realize that this was a corporate scam and now I'm unable to...

tugbbs.com

this is an outstanding diagram, thank you! have added this to the sticky in the HGVC forum!

 

[Jazdddy]

Note, the email address finally worked. Deedback in progress.

do u hav to pay for it or nah

 

[alwysonvac]

do u hav to pay for it or nah

So far there has been no charge.