Corporate Consulting Associates in Wyoming question

[abb]

Have you formally asked them for a refund? If you do and they don't comply, you could try the route of disputing the charge with your credit card company. However, they do have the signed agreement which they will use to dispute the charge. That said, don't let that stop you from disputing the charge.

You will be hard pressed to find others with direct experience to answer your questions. Someone may do a Google search a year from now that turns up this thread and they then come in and comment. We often see old threads like these get dug up years after the last post due to this very reason. You might also do well to post in r/scams on Reddit. However, many people won't come back after they have been scammed and are long past it. People who may have somehow successfully got their money back won't have reason to seek out these types of topics because all is good with their results.

Thank you all for replying!! You have no idea how much I appreciate it! I am sending them a notice that we no longer want their service and requesting our money back. We signed a " service agreement" with them. After that, I will send a letter to the credit card company disputing the charge. Monday I will file a complaint with our attorney general and any other place I can complain to. I just hope I don't get into any other legal trouble for taking these measures. As I said, we feel like we already lost our money but at least I tried to do something about it. Thanks again and when I find out anything, I will defiantly post on here so others that may get in the same position have an idea of how it turns out.

 

[billymach4]

We signed the service agreement on September

okay, We signed the service agreement on 9/28/23 which it also said it was a limited POA. It doesn't look like an official LPOA form to me though. As of 10/20/23, We have not returned the assigned attorney's phone call and haven't sent them. any of the requested paperwork.
I did however, send CCA some paperwork. We are in MO . Since we haven't sent the Atty anything I was wondering if anyone knows if we can just walk away and dispute it with the credit card company. We know they may not refund it but we also feel this is a scam and we lost
the money anyway. I just don't want to get in more trouble and now we can't afford to pay anyone to help us get out of this mess. We are 68 and 70 and my husband is a 100% service connected disabled vet. The credit card company said we have to show good faith in trying to get it back from CCA first and then them after that. What a mess! It took awhile for it all to sink in and the shock of it all, it's just horrible. Any advice is appreciated and thank you all for your responses

Glad to see you are back and being persistent. Keep up the good fight and please do let us know how it works out. I would absolutely keep up the pressure on the CC company to get your money back.

 

[abb]

Glad to see you are back and being persistent. Keep up the good fight and please do let us know how it works out. I would absolutely keep up the pressure on the CC company to get your money back.

Thank you, I plan on fighting till the end! I'm going contact the MO Attorney General and anyone else that I can think of. It may be awhile but will definitely post updates as we get on this roller coaster. I hope it will be a happy ending but also know it may not be. Thank you so much .

 

[heith9210]

Thank you all for replying!! You have no idea how much I appreciate it! I am sending them a notice that we no longer want their service and requesting our money back. We signed a " service agreement" with them. After that, I will send a letter to the credit card company disputing the charge. Monday I will file a complaint with our attorney general and any other place I can complain to. I just hope I don't get into any other legal trouble for taking these measures. As I said, we feel like we already lost our money but at least I tried to do something about it. Thanks again and when I find out anything, I will defiantly post on here so others that may get in the same position have an idea of how it turns out.

abb,
I don’t know if this will make you feel any better but it’s worth stating. I used this company earlier this year and they got my wife and I out of our points. It took around 9 months but I was ok with that because surprisingly I was told to expect it to take longer. I’m not telling you what they will or won’t do for you, but I came across this thread back when we first signed up but I noticed there was no one on here saying that they had used this company and had actually been scammed or not gotten out of their timeshare. Just people making assumptions with good and logical reason. Given the bad actors in that industry or whatever. So we decided to just see how it went. Back then I told my wife if we got out like they said then I would come back and say as much. She reminded me of that statement so here I am. I wish you luck and hope it doesn’t cause you too much stress while you wait. My wife and I had nearly forgot about it by the time it was done. But we were nervous in the beginning as well.

 

[TUGBrian]

I find it an amazing coincidence your email comes up in a google search with a jeffrey shaver from missouri, which then links to this:

BBB issues another warning about business owner - Springfield Business Journal

A new timeshare exit company is formed by a man with past consumer complaints.

sbj.net

 

[simpsontruckdriver]

Gotta love it when shills come in and think they can hide... not here! We see it time and time again, there is NO SUCH THING as a legitimate timeshare exit company. Even if they start out doing the "right thing", the lure of tens of thousands per month doing what people can do for *free*, greed sets in and they turn into a SCAM.

TS

 

[RX8]

Once a scam, always a scam. I do believe heith9210’s pants are on fire.

 

[RX8]

I find it an amazing coincidence your email comes up in a google search with a jeffrey shaver from missouri, which then links to this:

BBB issues another warning about business owner - Springfield Business Journal

A new timeshare exit company is formed by a man with past consumer complaints.

sbj.net

Brian, would you be surprised if Jeffrey Shaver's middle name is HEITH, just like the user name of Heith9210?

It appears that Jeffrey Heith Shaver has been involved with many exit company scams. In fact, our buddy at @STLBBB posted a warning to TUG about him in 2019 (posting his full name).

BBB St. Louis warns about new timeshare exit business with ties to F-rated company

The Better Business Bureau serving Eastern and Southwest Missouri and Southern Illinois issued a consumer warning today about a new timeshare exit business named Fountainhead Group Consulting Firm LLC. The St. Louis-based BBB found ties between Fountainhead and F-rated Last Resort Fee. Both of...

tugbbs.com

 

[SmithOp]

Wow, he registered and lurked almost 9 years before this shill post!

 

[TUGBrian]

never underestimate how far some of these folks will go!

 

[RX8]

Fun facts:

One of the previous exit companies is Fountainhead Group Consulting Firm LLC. The BBB profile is:

Fountainhead Group Consulting Firm LLC | BBB Business Profile | Better Business Bureau

Not BBB Accredited. Timeshare Cancellation in Albuquerque, NM. See BBB rating, reviews, complaints, and more.

www.bbb.org

The address there is New Mexico. The BBB reached out to obtain some explanations, including the address in which the BBB determined they were not at the New Mexico address. The BBB wrote "Mr. Shaver stated that the address previously listed on their website, 10401 Montgomery Parkway NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, was a virtual office address that had been provided to him for use by the company that performed the corporation filing for Fountainhead Group Consulting Firm LLC. Mr. Shaver also advised the company is now located in Branson, Missouri, as published on their website."

Why is this important? The address on Corporate Consulting Associates website is 1712 Pioneer Ave in Cheyenne, WY. Wyoming, specifically Cheyenne, is notorious for companies using that state for filing purposes only. That address is a virtual office. It is also the home of Wyoming Corporate Services, a company that performs filing services for companies. According to the Wyoming filing (available on-line), Wyoming Corporate Services is the name on the recorded filing so they did that service for Corporate Consulting Services. It is my guess that Jeffrey Heith Shaver is running yet another exit company and just like the other company listed above, used the same Cheyenne address provided by the filing service but in fact have been operating in the Missouri area all along. @STLBBB

 

[RX8]

Thank you, I plan on fighting till the end! I'm going contact the MO Attorney General and anyone else that I can think of. It may be awhile but will definitely post updates as we get on this roller coaster. I hope it will be a happy ending but also know it may not be. Thank you so much .

You haven’t been on in awhile but was hoping you might respond. Do you have an update?

You mentioned in the quoted post that you were contacting the MO Attorney General office. Despite their listed address being Wyoming we all just became aware of their link to Missouri. Did they have a Missouri address listed on the paperwork? @STLBBB might be interested to know that.

 

[abb]

You haven’t been on in awhile but was hoping you might respond. Do you have an update?

You mentioned in the quoted post that you were contacting the MO Attorney General office. Despite their listed address being Wyoming we all just became aware of their link to Missouri. Did they have a Missouri address listed on the paperwork? @STLBBB might be interested to know that.

Oh my .... I just now finally checked in and am so very surprised to be reading about the above posts. I was going to give an update but now think it should wait. We should know soon... and will follow up then. Thanks everyone

 

[abb]

Oh my .... I just now finally checked in and am so very surprised to be reading about the above posts. I was going to give an update but now think it should wait. We should know soon... and will follow up then. Thanks everyone

WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WEWON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't have to pay the $7,900 to to Corporate Consultant Associates!!

ZERO $$$ I don't know how, but our credit card company lawyer's did an awesome job! Thank you all for your advice and support! Thank you, Thank you!

 

[RX8]

WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WEWON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't have to pay the $7,900 to to Corporate Consultant Associates!!

ZERO $$$ I don't know how, but our credit card company lawyer's did an awesome job! Thank you all for your advice and support! Thank you, Thank you!

Congrats! Just to be clear, you had filed a credit card dispute? The credit card company lawyer found enough "fraud" to reverse the charges despite your contract?

To help others, it would be a good idea to still follow through with the Attorney General complaint, if not already done.

 

[RX8]

Simply a guess here but I suspect that Jeffrey Heith Shaver was well aware of @abb 's attempt to cancel the contract (and credit card dispute) and as a result, went so far as to pose as a satisfied customer on this thread on January 4th. Unfortunately for him, his shill post was quickly outed and he was unable to convince abb to cancel the dispute.

 

[dioxide45]

Do credit card companies get lawyers involved when dealing with a dispute? Credit card companies pretty much have 100% control over a merchant account. They can just take the money back to make the dispute whole. While unlikely, a successful dispute doesn't necessarily absolve someone of paying on a contract. It has been reported that businesses have filed a lawsuit to enforce a contract in court even after successfully winning a credit card dispute.

 

[davidvel]

never underestimate how far some of these folks will go!

Is it possible he was sending DMs to people who posted that they needed to get out of their timeshare?

Also, if this is the owner of the business posing as a customer to endorse his own business, this could be an FTC violation. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/truth-advertising/advertisement-endorsements

 

[abb]

Congrats! Just to be clear, you had filed a credit card dispute? The credit card company lawyer found enough "fraud" to reverse the charges despite your contract?

To help others, it would be a good idea to still follow through with the Attorney General complaint, if not already done.

Thank you,
Yes, lawyers do get involved and yes it was a credit card dispute with charges regarding Corporate Consulting Assoc.. The claim representative from the credit card company that helped me with the dispute said that their lawyers directly work with the disputed company's lawyers. I am assuming maybe, because it was a large amount. When a dispute is filed the amount disputed is automatically withdrawn by the credit card company and placed into their bank and you are issued "provisional credit" until the investigation is complete. From what I was told is that it's a law that gives the credit card company approval to do this and no one can stop them from doing it. It is standard procedure no matter the $ amount of a dispute. Also, While the investigation is being done no interest charges go on your account.
RX8, How do I send you a private email?

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Thank you,
Yes, lawyers do get involved and yes it was a credit card dispute with charges regarding Corporate Consulting Assoc.. The claim representative from the credit card company that helped me with the dispute said that their lawyers directly work with the disputed company's lawyers. I am assuming maybe, because it was a large amount. When a dispute is filed the amount disputed is automatically withdrawn by the credit card company and placed into their bank and you are issued "provisional credit" until the investigation is complete. From what I was told is that it's a law that gives the credit card company approval to do this and no one can stop them from doing it. It is standard procedure no matter the $ amount of a dispute. Also, While the investigation is being done no interest charges go on your account.
RX8, How do I send you a private email?

Click on @RX8 emoji and then click on "start conversation" and you will be all set.

I'm confident he'll read your post and will be expecting to hear from you........







.