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Coronavirus Cases Are Accelerating Across U.S.

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I believe that initially the Medical Community thought Covid19 was more of a contact disease - don't touch your face, wipe everything down, etc. They have since decided it is spread more by small droplets in the air.
 
so true:

"Without Sweden and a few similar outliers, it would be far easier for central planners to say, Sure, lockdowns were harsh and destructive. But we had no choice. "

fee.org

Why Sweden Succeeded in “Flattening the Curve” and New York Failed

If flattening the curve was the primary goal of policymakers, Sweden was a success. New York, on the other hand, was not, despite widespread closures and strict enforcement of social distancing policies. Sweden’s approach of encouraging social distancing by giving responsibility to individuals...
fee.org fee.org
 
Good video and interesting research. I’ve been following some journals on this.

Still too early to tell how/if it’s going to be effective on COVID-19.

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And then there is this:

COVID-19 Information From Our Experts

The extent of the coronavirus outbreak (COVID-19) is rapidly evolving and risk assessment changes daily, but here’s what we know about COVID-19 as of today.
www.uchicagomedicine.org www.uchicagomedicine.org

From one end to the other.....
 
@Ralph Sir Edward I listened to both those today. I really like how he breaks down the research and pathophysiology of why it would work or not. I also listen to the Osterholm update. It was really good this week on schools opening.

Episode 16: Reopening Schools Part 1

In this episode, Dr. Osterholm and host Chris Dall discuss considerations for reopening schools in the Fall, the concept of superspreaders and their role in the transmission of COVID-19, and recent statements regarding vaccines and masks. Email us your questions: OsterholmUpdate@umn.edu
www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu
Finsadbel said:
My response was in reference to mask wearing in general. The main argument has always been that Fauci “made a mistake” in saying not to wear masks. If you place his statement in context with what was going on at the time, you will remember there was a shortage of surgical/N95 masks. This was created by national panic buying by individuals who thought they would be better “protected”, leaving little to none for healthcare providers.
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ok STILL doesn't explain why cloth face coverings weren't good enough then...
"He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE."
thehill.com

Fauci: why the public wasn’t told to wear masks when the coronavirus pandemic began

The infectious disease expert also discussed why they are necessary.
thehill.com thehill.com

wilma said:
Yes, govt is stupid, don't ever believe anything they say.:rolleyes: It's a new virus and people were learning new information. Even though masks are now recommended many people still object. Next time we have a novel virus pandemic we will put you and Danny in charge and it will be perfectly run.
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See above. It was never about "new information" it was about misinformation.
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So sad
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But Danny-it's not a covid death! The extra few million world wide who will succumb to starvation or other opportunistic diseases before this year is even out (not to mention the increase in easily preventable childhood diseases due to super delayed vaccinations around the world) just get dismissed.
But seriously-this is why politicians need to step the heck back, get REAL experts from all areas (doctors/HCW frontline and research experts, business leaders, economists, community leaders etc) to be on a task force to guide the way forward. You cannot just have ONE aspect or the response is so lopsided there WILL be backlash/severe consequences.
 
Mid-pandemic, US hospitals are directed to start reporting certain Covid19-related data to HHS instead of CDC.
This worries me. :( CDC will have access to HHS Protect, but I find the timing and the actual policy decision troubling at best.
I wish the vendor contract to administer the database for HHS had followed a competitive bidding process, but the "new" reporting protocol is by far the bigger issue.

[The (hyperlinked) sentence is my wording. I don't swear by the source, Modern Healthcare, but the key facts in the piece are confirmed or disproved easily enough. Reference to the no-bid vendor contract hyperlinks to a different source.]
 
billymach4 said:
www.nytimes.com

Coronavirus Live Updates: New Cases in the U.S. Soar to More Than 74,000, Shattering the Record

Two-thirds of global cases have come from the U.S., Brazil, South Africa and India. The National Security Agency said a hacking group associated with Russian intelligence was targeting health care organizations to gain intelligence about vaccines.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

USA! USA! USA! Yeah! Now that's what I call Freedom! We don't need no stinkin Masks! :cautious: :wall: :doh::ponder::eek:o_O Beating a dead horse!
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How could we keep drinking the koolaid if we had to wear masks? ☠️
 
Here is a good map from Harvard.

globalepidemics.org

Risk Levels - Global Epidemics

RISK LEVELS First published in July 2020, our COVID-19 risk levels dashboard served as a tool for the public to track the pandemic in real time. As the pandemic has evolved and testing and reporting data have changed significantly, we have retired the dashboard as of December 2022. To explore...
globalepidemics.org globalepidemics.org
 
@Monykalyn that’s a good question. I, like yourself, am perplexed.

I do remember quite a bit of discussion on the matter, and there still are a lot of questions on effectiveness, but I think we’ve gotten to a “better than nothing “stage.

Limiting/eliminating contagious aerosolized droplets is the goal. What we are seeing this virus do in younger/healthy patients is beyond disturbing. And even more so in the at risk population.
 
I don't know why I am bothering to close this thread, but it's off the rails, again.
I will be glad when you guys go back to work and get a life - some of you are completely obsessed with this topic.
 
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