College football 2015

[csxjohn]

.. Sounds more and more like a "good ole days" decision would have resulted in the same two teams, so......let's just have a drink. Cheers.

Just to clarify, when I'm looking for the good ole days, I'm talking before the BCS and there would be no top two team playoff.

Teams played in bowls by who knows what criteria, the only one I know is the Rose Bowl, and then let everyone figure out who they think is #1 if that's necessary.

I do enjoy this thread because it has let me get to know other teams and conferences that were too much for me to follow on my own in the past.

I'm all for having that drink though.

 

[Elan]

Just to clarify, when I'm looking for the good ole days, I'm talking before the BCS and there would be no top two team playoff.

Teams played in bowls by who knows what criteria, the only one I know is the Rose Bowl, and then let everyone figure out who they think is #1 if that's necessary.

I do enjoy this thread because it has let me get to know other teams and conferences that were too much for me to follow on my own in the past.

I'm all for having that drink though.

Right. In the "good ole days" Alabama would have been in the Sugar Bowl and Clemson would have gone to the Orange Bowl.

 

[ace2000]

last year was interesting. but this year, I definitely think it doesn't make sense to argue for expansion since all we added from the BCS days was a chance for #1 and #2 to skulldrag a pretender before playing each other...

But last year, the four team playoff allowed Ohio St to be national champs...

 

[Elan]

Here are the teams that made BCS bowls during the last 5 years of that era. How many of these years is it clear cut which 4 teams should make a playoff? Then decide again after you digest the outcomes of these games. Not so easy, is it?

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  2009–10 season[edit]
See also: 2009–10 NCAA football bowl games
These BCS games were played following the 2009 regular season:

Friday, January 1, 2010 – Rose Bowl Game presented by Citi: No. 8 Ohio State (10–2, Big Ten champion) 26, No. 7 Oregon (10–2, Pac-10 champion) 17
Friday January 1, 2010 – Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 5 Florida (12–1, At-large) 51, No. 3 Cincinnati (12–0, Big East champion) 24
Monday, January 4, 2010 – Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: No. 6 Boise State (13–0, WAC champion, At-large) 17, No. 4 TCU (12–0, MWC champion, Automatic non-AQ) 10
Tuesday, January 5, 2010 – FedEx Orange Bowl: No. 10 Iowa (10–2, At-large) 24 vs No. 9 Georgia Tech (10–2, ACC champion) 14
Thursday, January 7, 2010 – Citi BCS National Championship: No. 1 Alabama (13–0, BCS No. 1, SEC champion) 37 vs No. 2 Texas (13–0, BCS No. 2, Big 12 champion) 21
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2010–11 season[edit]
See also: 2010-11 NCAA football bowl games
These BCS games were played following the 2010 regular season:

Saturday, January 1, 2011 – Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio: No. 3 TCU (12–0, MWC champion, Automatic non-AQ) 21 vs. No. 5 Wisconsin (11–1, Big Ten champion) 19
Saturday, January 1, 2011 – Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: No. 7 Oklahoma (11–2, Big 12 champion) 48 vs. Connecticut (8–4, Big East champion) 20
Monday, January 3, 2011 – Discover Orange Bowl: No. 4 Stanford (11–1, Automatic "3–4 Rule"[28]) 40 vs. No. 13 Virginia Tech (11–2, ACC champion) 12
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 – Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 6 Ohio State* (11–1, At-Large) 31 vs. No. 8 Arkansas (10–2, At-Large) 26
Monday, January 10, 2011 – Tostitos BCS National Championship: No. 1 Auburn (13–0, BCS No. 1, SEC champion) 22 vs. No. 2 Oregon (12–0, BCS No. 2, Pac-10 champion) 19
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* Ohio State later vacated the win
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2011–12 season[edit]
See also: 2011–12 NCAA football bowl games
These BCS games were played following the 2011 regular season:

Monday, January 2, 2012 – Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio: No. 5 Oregon (11–2, Pac-12 champion) 45 vs. No. 10 Wisconsin (11–2, Big Ten champion) 38
Monday, January 2, 2012 – Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: No. 3 Oklahoma State (11–1, Big 12 champion) 41 vs. No. 4 Stanford (11–1, Automatic "3–4 Rule"[28]) 38 (OT)
Tuesday, January 3, 2012 – Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 13 Michigan (10–2, At-Large) 23 vs. No. 11 Virginia Tech (11–2, At-Large) 20 (OT)
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 – Discover Orange Bowl: No. 23 West Virginia (9–3, Big East champion) 70 vs. No. 15 Clemson (10–3, ACC champion) 33
Monday, January 9, 2012 – Allstate BCS National Championship: No. 2 Alabama (11–1, BCS No. 2, Automatic) 21 vs. No. 1 LSU (13–0, BCS No. 1, SEC champion) 0
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2012–13 season[edit]
See also: 2012–13 NCAA football bowl games
These BCS games were played following the 2012 regular season:

Tuesday, January 1, 2013 – Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio: No. 6 Stanford (11–2, Pac-12 champion) 20 vs. Wisconsin (8–5, Big Ten champion) 14
Tuesday, January 1, 2013 – Discover Orange Bowl: No. 12 Florida State (11–2, ACC champion) 31 vs. No. 15 NIU (12–1, MAC champion, Automatic non-AQ) 10
Wednesday, January 2, 2013 – Allstate Sugar Bowl: No. 21 Louisville (10–2, Big East champion) 33 vs. No. 3 Florida (11–1, Automatic "3–4 Rule"[28]) 23
Thursday, January 3, 2013 – Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: No. 4 Oregon (11–1, At-Large) 35 vs. No. 5 Kansas State (11–1, Big 12 champion) 17
Monday, January 7, 2013 – Discover BCS National Championship: No. 2 Alabama (12–1, BCS No. 2, SEC champion) 42 vs. No. 1 Notre Dame (12–0, BCS No. 1, Automatic[24]) 14
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2013–14 season[edit]
See also: 2013–14 NCAA football bowl games
These BCS games were played following the 2013 regular season:

Wednesday, January 1, 2014 – Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio (Pasadena, CA): No. 4 Michigan State (12-1, Big Ten champion) 24 vs. No. 5 Stanford (11-2, Pac 12 champion) 20
Wednesday, January 1, 2014 – Tostitos Fiesta Bowl (Glendale, AZ): No. 15 UCF (11–1, American Athletic Conference champion) 52 vs. No. 6 Baylor (11-1, Big 12 champion) 42
Thursday, January 2, 2014 – Allstate Sugar Bowl (New Orleans, LA): No. 11 Oklahoma (10–2, At-Large) 45 vs. No. 3 Alabama (11–1, Automatic "3–4 Rule"[28]) 31
Friday, January 3, 2014 – Discover Orange Bowl (Miami Gardens, FL): No. 12 Clemson (10–2, At-Large) 40 vs. No. 7 Ohio State (12–1, At-Large) 35
Monday, January 6, 2014 – Vizio BCS National Championship (Pasadena, CA): No. 1 Florida State (13–0, ACC champion) 34 vs. No. 2 Auburn (12–1, SEC champion) 31

 

[jme]

Just to clarify, when I'm looking for the good ole days, I'm talking before the BCS and there would be no top two team playoff.

Teams played in bowls by who knows what criteria, the only one I know is the Rose Bowl, and then let everyone figure out who they think is #1 if that's necessary.

I do enjoy this thread because it has let me get to know other teams and conferences that were too much for me to follow on my own in the past.

I'm all for having that drink though.

Then we both agree on when the "good ole days" were!

...and yes the bowls had wacky criteria for participants sometimes. At the end of the day (when the bowls were over), it certainly made for some great conversations.....sort of like this thread now......and I kinda liked that.

I could argue my case with no definitive evidence to back it up. HaHa

Right. In the "good ole days" Alabama would have been in the Sugar Bowl and Clemson would have gone to the Orange Bowl.

exactly.......brilliant.

....and then both victors claimed the #1 spot.......exactly indeed.

best part, instead of one scowl & one smirk, both parties raised a glass.

 

[CCR]

Roll Tide Roll!!! Come on guys score!!

 

[jme]

....Alabama is looking unstoppable, imho, and Derek Henry WILL win the Heisman, ...
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yep, and yep

Alabama 45 ...... Clemson 40

 

[am1]

The SEC is once again at the top. Even in a down year.

 

[lizap]

Why don't they ask Nick Saban how much longer he is going to be at AL and go ahead and award them the NC for that many years??

 

[pedro47]

Some months ago I predicted that their would be no undefeated college football team for the 2015-2016 season.

Last night there were two (2) great football teams on the field one was 14-0.

The other team had been defeated during the regular football season.

After the game the Alabama football team were again the NCAA College Football Champion.

The players on both team looked and active like young college "students."

Great game and great players on both teams.

 

[ace2000]

Alabama wins the national title for the fourth time in seven years!

Thanks Elan, for getting the thread going and keeping it alive throughout the season. I enjoyed reading all the comments from everyone.

Csxjohn - did you get to go the game or did you sell the tickets?

 

[csxjohn]

...
Csxjohn - did you get to go the game or did you sell the tickets?

I went to the game, sold three tix to friends I met in Phoenix. I was in the end zone away from the bands, the left side on the TV screen.

I was rooting for Clemson because I was befriended by a group of their cheerleaders downtown Sat night and I was tailgating with a bunch of Clemson peeps in the parking lot before the game.

I was still really neutral going inside and did not bet a penny on the game because then I knew I would not enjoy the game. I would have bet on Alabama because all year I stated I thought they were the best.

When I got in I was seated near some very obnoxious Ala fans so I was leaning back toward Clemson. The only time they were quiet was when Clem. had a good drive.

When the game was over they showed their lack of class by singing a song to the tiger fans rubbing in that they got beat by Ala. Everyone knew the outcome, why sing a song about it??

As many times as the secondary let the tigers down and the awful play on the special teams, they were still in the game to the end.

My final feeling is that I think that the way it went at the end of the season, OSU would have beaten either of these teams. That's what makes this fun.

 

[jme]

My final feeling is that I think that the way it went at the end of the season, OSU would have beaten either of these teams.

actually, neither.

not in same class this year. AL and Clemson much superior.

OSU should have been in playoffs, but that's all I'm giving 'em.

OMG here we go again.

 

[csxjohn]

actually, neither.

not in same class this year. AL and Clemson much superior.

OSU should have been in playoffs, but that's all I'm giving 'em.

OMG here we go again.

That's why for me, we don't need the playoffs, I know OSU is better and you know differently. That's the way I like it.

 

[colatown]

I went to the game, sold three tix to friends I met in Phoenix. I was in the end zone away from the bands, the left side on the TV screen.

I was rooting for Clemson because I was befriended by a group of their cheerleaders downtown Sat night and I was tailgating with a bunch of Clemson peeps in the parking lot before the game.

I was still really neutral going inside and did not bet a penny on the game because then I knew I would not enjoy the game. I would have bet on Alabama because all year I stated I thought they were the best.

When I got in I was seated near some very obnoxious Ala fans so I was leaning back toward Clemson. The only time they were quiet was when Clem. had a good drive.



When the game was over they showed their lack of class by singing a song to the tiger fans rubbing in that they got beat by Ala. Everyone knew the outcome, why sing a song about it??

As many times as the secondary let the tigers down and the awful play on the special teams, they were still in the game to the end.

My final feeling is that I think that the way it went at the end of the season, OSU would have beaten either of these teams. That's what makes this fun.

You haven't spent enough time around Taters if you think Bammer fans are obnoxious.

 

[csxjohn]

You haven't spent enough time around Taters if you think Bammer fans are obnoxious.

You're right, I haven't. From the two days I spent around both leading up to this game I feel both sets of fans were great until the few loud mouths sitting around me at the game. I really disliked the "you got your azz's kicked by Ala" song.

They really weren't all that bad, the normal stuff, every play Clemson committed a foul and Ala never did anything wrong. It just got on my nerves play after play.

When I pulled in the parking lot I saw some fans with a table set up and decided to park next to them. They happened to be Clemson fans. I introduced myself, shared some beers, they shared their foods and snacks with me. I really had a great time with them and am sure if I had parked near Ala fans it would have been the same.

This was the first time I saw a football game in a dome and I really didn't like it. I felt like I was at a hockey game with a bigger playing area. Just didn't have the right feel for a football game.

I was really impressed with the way the grass held up to the players cleats. What a great idea to let the grass grow outdoors then wheel it in for the games.

One thing I did not like was that everyone stood up for every play. If you didn't stand up you couldn't see. I have trouble staying on my feet too long and getting up and down is not easy. I was glad to read in the game guide that standing for every play would not be allowed but when the game started it was not that way. You could really see everything nicely while sitting and I can see standing when a real exciting play took place but every play?? Oh well, I'll know next time.

 

[am1]

An ohio state fan criticizing other fan bases. That takes the cake. You do know what the rest of the Big 10 fan bases think about ohio state fans?

I am glad you enjoyed the game. It is amazing what they can do with moving grass in and out of domes.

You're right, I haven't. From the two days I spent around both leading up to this game I feel both sets of fans were great until the few loud mouths sitting around me at the game. I really disliked the "you got your azz's kicked by Ala" song.

They really weren't all that bad, the normal stuff, every play Clemson committed a foul and Ala never did anything wrong. It just got on my nerves play after play.

When I pulled in the parking lot I saw some fans with a table set up and decided to park next to them. They happened to be Clemson fans. I introduced myself, shared some beers, they shared their foods and snacks with me. I really had a great time with them and am sure if I had parked near Ala fans it would have been the same.

This was the first time I saw a football game in a dome and I really didn't like it. I felt like I was at a hockey game with a bigger playing area. Just didn't have the right feel for a football game.

I was really impressed with the way the grass held up to the players cleats. What a great idea to let the grass grow outdoors then wheel it in for the games.

One thing I did not like was that everyone stood up for every play. If you didn't stand up you couldn't see. I have trouble staying on my feet too long and getting up and down is not easy. I was glad to read in the game guide that standing for every play would not be allowed but when the game started it was not that way. You could really see everything nicely while sitting and I can see standing when a real exciting play took place but every play?? Oh well, I'll know next time.

 

[csxjohn]

An ohio state fan criticizing other fan bases. That takes the cake. You do know what the rest of the Big 10 fan bases think about ohio state fans?

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No, I really don't. I'm not in Columbus, a couple of hours north, and I've seen this mentioned here on TUG before. I am unaware of what it's like at their games.

I do know that the five years I lived in Toledo the city was split down the middle between TTUN and OSU. It was a healthy rivalry with a lot of kidding back and forth but fun just the same. People's office would get painted with the opposing teams colors when they weren't around and things like that.

OSU has the chant O-H then form someone else I-O and they have the spelling out of Ohio with their arms. Other than that I don't know what they do that would rub someone the wrong way.

I guess it depends on where and when you run into OSU fans on how you perceive their actions

 

[am1]

You do know that they ran their biggest supporter out of town?
Every other BIG 10 school, (not sure of the new ones) agree that osu fans are the worse. You know how hard it is to get college football fans to agree on anything? At least 10 fan bases.

No, I really don't. I'm not in Columbus, a couple of hours north, and I've seen this mentioned here on TUG before. I am unaware of what it's like at their games.

I do know that the five years I lived in Toledo the city was split down the middle between TTUN and OSU. It was a healthy rivalry with a lot of kidding back and forth but fun just the same. People's office would get painted with the opposing teams colors when they weren't around and things like that.

OSU has the chant O-H then form someone else I-O and they have the spelling out of Ohio with their arms. Other than that I don't know what they do that would rub someone the wrong way.

I guess it depends on where and when you run into OSU fans on how you perceive their actions

 

[csxjohn]

You do know that they ran their biggest supporter out of town?
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Nope. Fill me in. I only follow during the season and occasionally someone on FB will post something, and I don't follow all that closely.

Could all the other Big10 fan bases be jealous of OSU's recent success and thus put hate on the fans? In most sports, fans of one team hate the fans of a teams that constantly beat them.

They may be the worst fans around but I've not been aware of it.

 

[am1]

Kirk Herbstreit left Columbus a few years ago because he could not stand the homers of osu.

The other Big 10 team fan bases do not like osu fans because of how their fans act. Urban Meyer was disliked by the fan base until he joined them. Then all of a sudden he could do no wrong.

Nope. Fill me in. I only follow during the season and occasionally someone on FB will post something, and I don't follow all that closely.

Could all the other Big10 fan bases be jealous of OSU's recent success and thus put hate on the fans? In most sports, fans of one team hate the fans of a teams that constantly beat them.

They may be the worst fans around but I've not been aware of it.

 

[Elan]

I love this time of year immediately prior to LOI day. All of the stupid articles about who has the top recruiting classes, etc. If I had a nickel for every 5 star recruit that never played a down or every walk-on that went pro.........

Yet another over hyped aspect of CFB driven by the media primarily to provide mindless content.

 

[jme]

I love this time of year immediately prior to LOI day. All of the stupid articles about who has the top recruiting classes, etc. If I had a nickel for every 5 star recruit that never played a down or every walk-on that went pro.........

Yet another over hyped aspect of CFB driven by the media primarily to provide mindless content.

You are so right.............that is, except for Alabama's

My team UGA has had several "best running back in country" signees in last decade, and most have been huge disappointments, or got injured and were non-factors. Not to mention our 350-lb linemen signees who can't even block sunburn.

It's just as mindless as listening to the pre-game "match-ups" debate, whether college or NFL. (That said, I still love watching "College Game Day" with Kirk Herbstreit and Lee Corso purely for entertainment.)

Write down all they say pre-Super Bowl, then see how much was relevant.

Basically the team with the most points wins, and not much else is predictable. That's why I avoid the pre-game NFL shows like the plague.

 

[Elan]

You are so right.............that is, except for Alabama's

My team UGA has had several "best running back in country" signees in last decade, and most have been huge disappointments, or got injured and were non-factors. Not to mention our 350-lb linemen signees who can't even block sunburn.

It's just as mindless as listening to the pre-game "match-ups" debate, whether college or NFL. (That said, I still love watching "College Game Day" with Kirk Herbstreit and Lee Corso purely for entertainment.)

Even Alabama can't recruit a QB.

Yeah, Game Day is good entertainment, but primarily because Corso keeps them from taking themselves too seriously.

Speaking of linemen, I remember watching the BSU v UGA game when UGA had what was supposedly the biggest O-line ever in the SEC -- presumably 4 and 5 star recruits -- and they couldn't keep BSU's mostly 2-star D-line out of the backfield. All of that D-line went on to the NFL.

 

[jme]

Even Alabama can't recruit a QB.

Yeah, Game Day is good entertainment, but primarily because Corso keeps them from taking themselves too seriously.

Speaking of linemen, I remember watching the BSU v UGA game when UGA had what was supposedly the biggest O-line ever in the SEC -- presumably 4 and 5 star recruits -- and they couldn't keep BSU's mostly 2-star D-line out of the backfield. All of that D-line went on to the NFL.

Does Alabama NEED a quarterback? I wasn't aware that they did.

......AND, that UGA O-line you're referring to....it was the largest in FOOTBALL that year, including the NFL.

Like I said previously, they can't block sunburn. I've seen Maple Syrup move faster than those guys. It was like watching rabbits running through a school bus parking lot.




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