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Celebration, FL: How Disney's 'Community of Tomorrow' Became a Total Nightmare

Wow - sad and what a shame. Really cannot ever trust anyone.

We visited quiet a few years ago. Very quaint/picture perfect/postcard look. We have friends who rented a house for a few years in Celebration and loved it. They ended up moving back home/here up North. They are back in Florida. I think still renting but somewhere else. Glad they never bought in Celebration.
 
"Disney still retains some input into the aesthetics of the town—exterior paint colors, roof tiles, the style of front porches—but little direct control over maintenance. Still, residents said they believe Disney should step in because the neglect is destroying the town’s charming look."

The company also said in its statement:

"The Condo documents signed by each owner upon acquiring their property are pretty clear as to all areas of responsibility, both financially and physically for the buildings. It is unfair for the Town Center Condo Association to now solely point the systematic failure of multiple parties, including their own management, at the Foundation alone."

"Unit owners are responsible for roughly 66% of repairs and the Foundation the remaining 33%. Also, the representatives speaking failed to address the over $268,000 delinquency they have in existing assessments owed, separate from the proposed special assessment, yet in good faith the Foundation has proceeded with repairs. Furthermore, Special Assessments would be spread over a period of time and not in one large payment as intentionally misstated by the interviewees in the story."

"Celebration is not only a victim of its own marketing, but a victim of a public that perceives planned communities as deeply creepy—which is how Celebration is described again and again."

https://condomadness.info/decline-Celebration.html


Buyers, with their judgement clouded by this Disney dream community, now realize this no utopia. Does a utopia even exsist? Did they even read the condominium documents prior to signing?
 
One of the most telling elements of this sad story is this quote regarding the covenantal restrictions on the homeowners: "As soon as they moved in, the condo’s roof began to leak. No big deal for Rousseau. Relieved to have left New York, she set about to get it fixed. She contacted the condo manager. The manager told her to talk to the Town Center Foundation. When she reached out to the Foundation, they didn’t respond. Rousseau was confused. How did you get things fixed around here? She couldn’t fix it herself, because of the peculiarities of Celebration condominium law. The residents own only the interiors of their units. Anything inside, they can change. Anything else, anything structural—like say, a roof—they can’t touch without owner approval. 'Think of it like the Titanic,' Rousseau said. “'We are on a ship going out of control. But all we own is our little box in it and the air rights to get to our unit. That is it. Nothing else.'

Wow. The incredibly restrictive covenants that were meant to ensure uniformity, adherence to design and maintenance standards, and excellence in the upkeep of the town were not only undermined by the greed of Metin Negrin but were exploited by him to the great detriment of the residents.

While it's good that the Disney Corporation still has some tangential involvement, it is also clear that the sale of Town Center by Disney in 2004 was the beginning of a steep decline in the beauty and liveability of the town and its neighborhoods, not to mention the ongoing property values of the homeowners. In order to avoid embarrassment, Disney needs to exert its corporate muscle back into this situation and uphold Walt's legacy. As a shareholder in Disney, I would certainly support this effort.


yes, Walt would be sad.
But the problems described in previous posts are not controlled by Disney, apparently it's the downtown section controlled by a private equity firm
 
yes, Walt would be sad.
But the problems described in previous posts are not controlled by Disney, apparently it's the downtown section controlled by a private equity firm
I completely understand that. What I'm saying is that Disney, in order to uphold its corporate reputation as well as Walt's legacy (which remains a powerful force within the company), needs to inject itself into this mess, buy out the ripoff artist behind the whole thing, and invest in the public buildings that are part of Celebration. Clearly, Walt's vision for this community has been hi-jacked by greed, and the Disney Company is in the best position to remedy the situation.
 
I completely understand that. What I'm saying is that Disney, in order to uphold its corporate reputation as well as Walt's legacy (which remains a powerful force within the company), needs to inject itself into this mess, buy out the ripoff artist behind the whole thing, and invest in the public buildings that are part of Celebration. Clearly, Walt's vision for this community has been hi-jacked by greed, and the Disney Company is in the best position to remedy the situation.

Celebration, Florida – Everything You Need to Know
By Eric Gross
Posted on November 24, 2018

"In the late 90s and early 2000s, Celebration was fully governed by The Celebration Company — not the homeowners — which resulted in decisions made based on profit more so than resident needs. An example of such was no gas station or fast food restaurants on site, but instead, Disney merchandise shops. Celebration was sold to a property management company in 2004, and has since made those necessary
changes. Even though Celebration is no longer officially affiliated with Disney, the town center and community are well-maintained.

https://www.wdwinfo.com/movingtothemagic/celebration-florida-everything-you-need-to-know/


Disney has washed it's hands. In fact, "... the town center and community are well-maintained." :rolleyes:
 
We often visit Celebration when family and friends are here. We enjoy the Town Tavern very much. I have done the Christmas Decorated Homes tours a few times and the tea room is very nice also.
The affiliation with Disney isn’t prominent or even used as a selling point anymore.
There are many communities in central Florida with their own unique appeal.
It all a matter of taste.
Silentg
 
She couldn’t fix it herself, because of the peculiarities of Celebration condominium law. The residents own only the interiors of their units. Anything inside, they can change. Anything else, anything structural—like say, a roof—they can’t touch without owner approval. 'Think of it like the Titanic,' Rousseau said. “'We are on a ship going out of control. But all we own is our little box in it and the air rights to get to our unit. That is it. Nothing else.'

Their Rules and Covenants, at 166 pages, is the most detailed and restrictive document of it's type that I have seen. Is it any wonder why these buyers never read it fully and just sign?
 
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