California COVID-19 guidelines / Dec 2020 Cancellations by Marriott/II [MERGED]

[spookykennedy]

We have a check in on Friday at NCV and with the Governor's announcement now we are torn. We mostly hang around the resort and do some sightseeing by car. Is anyone there now? If it's going to be an extra weird vibe I think we will pass but are very sad about it.

 

[davidvel]

We have a check in on Friday at NCV and with the Governor's announcement now we are torn. We mostly hang around the resort and do some sightseeing by car. Is anyone there now? If it's going to be an extra weird vibe I think we will pass but are very sad about it.

What do you mean? Everything in So Cal and especially Orange County is basically the same other than indoor restaurants (in San Diego). OC may get these restrictions Tuesday.

If you are talking about the pronouncements by CA, OR and WA governors, they are merely advisory.

 

[rhonda]

Ugh. Thanks, @spookykennedy, for your post. I just checked ... and, yep, Newsom's recent update will kill our New Year's plans to visit Scottsdale, AZ!

Link: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Travel-Advisory.aspx
Snippet:
1. Persons arriving in California from other states or countries, including returning California residents, should practice self-quarantine for 14 days after arrival. These persons should limit their interactions to their immediate household. This recommendation does not apply to individuals who cross state or country borders for essential travel. [2]

 

[BJRSanDiego]

We have a check in on Friday at NCV and with the Governor's announcement now we are torn. We mostly hang around the resort and do some sightseeing by car. Is anyone there now? If it's going to be an extra weird vibe I think we will pass but are very sad about it.

We were there in late Sept. and they were in the same (purple) category. We wore a mask, did social distancing, hand washing, etc.

We took the Marriott shuttle down to Crystal Cove and ate at the Beachcomber (outdoors). We also ate outdoors at the Cliffs (Laguna Beach), and the Landing (Balboa Island). I skipped the pools on the weekend.

Most people properly wore masks but there were a few idiots who didn't or who weren't wearing them properly.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

Ugh. Thanks, @spookykennedy, for your post. I just checked ... and, yep, Newsom's recent update will kill our New Year's plans to visit Scottsdale, AZ!

Link: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Travel-Advisory.aspx
Snippet:
1. Persons arriving in California from other states or countries, including returning California residents, should practice self-quarantine for 14 days after arrival. These persons should limit their interactions to their immediate household. This recommendation does not apply to individuals who cross state or country borders for essential travel. [2]

This is only an advisory.

We are going to Az. in a couple of months. Because of our age (retired) and health issues, we pretty much self quarantine anyway (when we are home). I always were PPE and use safe practices. So, we'll self quarantine if we need to when we return. If Az puts in a similar actual REQUIREMENT, then we may have to cancel, unless they allow the use of a Covid test, like Hawaii does.

@rhonda , if your New Year's plans included a bunch of close contact and partying with others, then you are exposing yourselves to a risk and could also bring back the virus to San Diego. If you are under 50 and in very good health, then YOUR OWN risk of death is very low. Especially if you use PPE and safe practices.

 

[SmithOp]

Ugh. Thanks, @spookykennedy, for your post. I just checked ... and, yep, Newsom's recent update will kill our New Year's plans to visit Scottsdale, AZ!

Link: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Travel-Advisory.aspx
Snippet:
1. Persons arriving in California from other states or countries, including returning California residents, should practice self-quarantine for 14 days after arrival. These persons should limit their interactions to their immediate household. This recommendation does not apply to individuals who cross state or country borders for essential travel. [2]

Thats a “should”, no enforcement, or even a way to enforce it.


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[spookykennedy]

Thanks everyone. We want to be respectful but the more we think about it, it won't be much different than activities we do at home under the same restrictions.

 

[VacationForever]

We had planned to go over to Palm Springs area for Thanksgiving for 15 nights and being concerned about how an advisory can turn into a mandate, we are going to forgo our trip. They are booked using Vistana Staroptions with a Dec 31st 2020 expiration so we won't be able to rebook it.

 

[rhonda]

If it remains in effect for our travel dates ... it will kill our plans. We won't party or mix with crowds ... our "big" event was to some lonely hiking ... but my DH's current project would enforce the 14-day quarantine for its own purposes and, thus, our problem.

I'm a bit bummed by yesterday's announcement re: interstate travel ... but not surprised. Yes, I booked the trip on expiring (now expired) WM points knowing that it was an "at risk" reservation. Oh, well ... how many reservations have (has??) each of us cancelled this year, right? Just chalking up another one ...

@rhonda , if your New Year's plans included a bunch of close contact and partying with others, then you are exposing yourselves to a risk and could also bring back the virus to San Diego. If you are under 50 and in very good health, then YOUR OWN risk of death is very low. Especially if you use PPE and safe practices.

Thats a “should”, no enforcement, or even a way to enforce it.

 

[Steve A]

We cancelled our two week trip to DSV 1 and Shadow Ridge earlier this week at the urging/begging of our LA based son. We’re in our 70s. We were scheduled for 11.27-12.10. We’re rebooked for the middle of April 2021. I may put it off until later if I can through II.

 

[VacationForever]

We cancelled our two week trip to DSV 1 and Shadow Ridge earlier this week at the urging/begging of our LA based son. We’re in our 70s. We were scheduled for 11.27-12.10. We’re rebooked for the middle of April 2021. I may put it off until later if I can through II.

We also have 2 more weeks at DSV I coming up at the end of January and we really hope not to cancel these.

 

[Foggy1]

We also have 2 more weeks at DSV I coming up at the end of January and we really hope not to cancel these.

We are into our 3rd week at DSV1 and actually feel safer here than at home in WA. Mask compliance and distancing is very good.

We debated earlier in the Fall as to whether or come or not as we are 75 and 85 but decided "what the hell." and are very glad we came......assuming we don't contact something on the plane home.

Next worry is Maui in Feb/Mar for 5 weeks.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

If it remains in effect for our travel dates ... it will kill our plans. We won't party or mix with crowds ... our "big" event was to some lonely hiking ... but my DH's current project would enforce the 14-day quarantine for its own purposes and, thus, our problem.

I'm a bit bummed by yesterday's announcement re: interstate travel ... but not surprised. Yes, I booked the trip on expiring (now expired) WM points knowing that it was an "at risk" reservation. Oh, well ... how many reservations have (has??) each of us cancelled this year, right? Just chalking up another one ...

I know that I'm not going to talk you out of anything. So, I'm just going to offer some of my opinions and thoughts.

So, I'm curious why, if you live in San Diego and drive up to Orange county why your DH would be required to quarantine. As best I know, both counties are in the purple zone. I don't think that Newsance's advisory applies to intra-state (within the state) travel. I'm pretty sure that it only applies to people entering or returning from out-of-state.

Newport coast isn't terrific for hiking. It is pretty much an urban area. But I like walking along the Crystal Cove beach as far north and south as I can. And there are a few other hikes in the area.

Best of luck with your decision.

 

[davidvel]

If it remains in effect for our travel dates ... it will kill our plans. We won't party or mix with crowds ... our "big" event was to some lonely hiking ... but my DH's current project would enforce the 14-day quarantine for its own purposes and, thus, our problem.

I'm a bit bummed by yesterday's announcement re: interstate travel ... but not surprised. Yes, I booked the trip on expiring (now expired) WM points knowing that it was an "at risk" reservation. Oh, well ... how many reservations have (has??) each of us cancelled this year, right? Just chalking up another one ...

Do what you want and think is best. [Deleted] The state has not imposed any rules, orders or any restrictions on travel, and no travel quarantine is in place.

The headlines claiming that there has been some new "spike" relates only to positive tests, based upon more tests. The positive rate has not significantly increased yet.

California has had a spike in positive tests, due almost exclusively to an incredible increase in testing. The positivity rate remains well under the WHO's 5% threshold for lockdowns. [deleted] CA's positive test rate has hovered around 4% or so throughout the pandemic. This is due (I'll give him credit here), to the strong early mask mandate where people interact. Masks are helping here, but there is no spike as you will read in the media, in anything other than tests.

The state standards require counties to close things down when the number (not percentage) of positive tests increase, regardless of the fact that we are now testing at 5x levels from before. So 5x more tests equals about 5x more positive tests. 3rd grade math. This is why San Diego went to purple stage today, and Orange County will next week. But nothing has really changed. Hospital and ICU (including COVID care) availability is extremely high. But we are shut down to the purple tier. Sadly this [deleted] causes dingbats to then ignore smart controls like masks and social distancing...

 

[VacationForever]

We are into our 3rd week at DSV1 and actually feel safer here than at home in WA. Mask compliance and distancing is very good.

We debated earlier in the Fall as to whether or come or not as we are 75 and 85 but decided "what the hell." and are very glad we came......assuming we don't contact something on the plane home.

Next worry is Maui in Feb/Mar for 5 weeks.

I would have gone on the Thanksgiving trip as it is a drive-to location for us. But my husband does not want to go and be stuck being quarantined. We golf and eat out alot whenever we go to Palm Springs area where it is 10 degrees warmer than where we are. More importantly for us is the Jan/Feb trip. We are planning to spend 2+ months living out of timeshare and hotels while we are in between homes.

 

[2boysmom]

We are into our 3rd week at DSV1 and actually feel safer here than at home in WA. Mask compliance and distancing is very good.

We debated earlier in the Fall as to whether or come or not as we are 75 and 85 but decided "what the hell." and are very glad we came......assuming we don't contact something on the plane home.

Next worry is Maui in Feb/Mar for 5 weeks.

We too are considering whether to move forward with our week as DSV1 starting December 26th traveling from the east coast. Foggy1 could you comment on restaurants availability of outdoor dining? Do most offer it? We usually golf a good bit, eat out, hit Temecula wineries, do the tram up the mountain, visit Joshua Tree. Are most of these still open with the newest 'advisory' albeit with limited capacity and masks of course? Thanks for any additional information. We aren't worried about catching or spreading Covid but don't want to travel across country to basically be confined to the timeshare (even though we love DSV1).

 

[Bill4728]

We have decided to cancel our early December trip to NCV because of Covid. We vacationed in Hilton Head last month and were comfortable with the way that they handled Covid but just feel that SoCal may be to "closed" for us. We were able to "E Plus" into the last week of Jan 2021 at NCV and may do it again to early April.

 

[Foggy1]

We too are considering whether to move forward with our week as DSV1 starting December 26th traveling from the east coast. Foggy1 could you comment on restaurants availability of outdoor dining? Do most offer it? We usually golf a good bit, eat out, hit Temecula wineries, do the tram up the mountain, visit Joshua Tree. Are most of these still open with the newest 'advisory' albeit with limited capacity and masks of course? Thanks for any additional information. We aren't worried about catching or spreading Covid but don't want to travel across country to basically be confined to the timeshare (even though we love DSV1).

From what I've seen, golf courses limit carts to single riders, unless they arrive in the same car. For outdoor dining, we've been to Desert Willow, Fisherman's Landing, PF Changs, Babes, Don Diegos and Ernies at PGA West. Also take out from Ralphs and Bristol Farms. Haven't been to Shermans or Papa Dans, but see people sitting outside.
The Tram web site says they are open and limit 10? in the cab. I wouldn't count on the wineries.
This is as of today....what happens tomorrow is ?????

 

[2boysmom]

From what I've seen, golf courses limit carts to single riders, unless they arrive in the same car. For outdoor dining, we've been to Desert Willow, Fisherman's Landing, PF Changs, Babes, Don Diegos and Ernies at PGA West. Also take out from Ralphs and Bristol Farms. Haven't been to Shermans or Papa Dans, but see people sitting outside.
The Tram web site says they are open and limit 10? in the cab. I wouldn't count on the wineries.
This is as of today....what happens tomorrow is ?????

thanks much for the additional detail

 

[TravelTime]

I am debating canceling our two week trip to Four Seasons Aviara for the Christmas and New Years holiday. The main reason is because there is not a lot to do down there with so much closed. We might enjoy staying home better than spending 2 weeks in a 1 bedroom unit. I was not able to book 2 BRs for the holidays.

 

[klpca]

I am debating canceling our two week trip to Four Seasons Aviara for the Christmas and New Years holiday. The main reason is because there is not a lot to do down there with so much closed. We might enjoy staying home better than spending 2 weeks in a 1 bedroom unit. I was not able to book 2 BRs for the holidays.

Besides Legoland/Sea World being closed what else are you looking to do? You may be ok.That said I think that spending the holidays at home is a perfect way to spend time together.

 

[TravelTime]

Besides Legoland/Sea World being closed what else are you looking to do? You may be ok.That said I think that spending the holidays at home is a perfect way to spend time together.

Also, Disney and Universal are closed. The San Diego Safari is very limited in operations. Not sure about the zoo. What kid friendly parks and activities are within driving distance and open?

 

[klpca]

Also, Disney and Universal are closed. The San Diego Safari is very limited in operations. Not sure about the zoo. What kid friendly parks and activities are within driving distance and open?

If you were only planning to do amusement parks, then yes you are right, and they are closed. There are other things to do but if that was the purpose then I agree that there's no reason to make the trip.

 

[TravelTime]

If you were only planning to do amusement parks, then yes you are right, and they are closed. There are other things to do but if that was the purpose then I agree that there's no reason to make the trip.

I am wondering what other kid friendly activities are in the area. Do you have recommendations? I have never been down there yet.

 

[klpca]

I am wondering what other kid friendly activities are in the area. Do you have recommendations? I have never been down there yet.

It's been a few years - our youngest is almost 30, no idea how that happened! - so maybe others will chime in. We definitely did the zoo, Sea World, movies etc so without those your are left with hiking and watching movies and playing games at home. You can walk on the beach but I know that my kids would not have been impressed by that. There may be other things to do but I am not sure what they are. FYI, I would personally reschedule to a warmer time of year - Sept is my favorite followed by August (except that it is pretty warm for some of the theme parks at that time of year). I love living in San Diego but I think that winter is my least favorite time of year because so much of San Diego is geared to being outside. Even our malls are open air. You will be chilly - it will probably be in the mid 60's (high) if you are lucky - and it is a damp cold. People laugh about us being wimps (and we probably are) but the damp cold is really uncomfortable. It's like having a cold blanket wrapped around you. If you come from a cold climate you will be fine but to me it feels really chilly and uncomfortable.