Barbados Crane resale question

[Red elephant]

Hello,
I don’t know much about HGV so need help purchasing a resale at the Crane. I see a few resales on Redweek but it says points. Do you not get a deeded week? Or you get the points to book a week. It seems like a small resort so how difficult is it to book your week? I am interested in Platinum weeks.
What is the difference between the residence and the resort?
Thanks.

 

[alwysonvac]

Hello,
I don’t know much about HGV so need help purchasing a resale at the Crane. I see a few resales on Redweek but it says points. Do you not get a deeded week? Or you get the points to book a week. It seems like a small resort so how difficult is it to book your week? I am interested in Platinum weeks.
What is the difference between the residence and the resort?
Thanks.

The Crane is not a HGVC developed resort. HGVC acquired 38 units from the Crane to add a Caribbean destination to their list of locations.
Here's a link to the Crane's website - https://www.thecrane.com/resort/history/

Here's an older TUG thread that describes the Crane phases (Resort vs Residences)

Crane Resort Barbados RCI Listings

Noticed that there are 3 Crane resort listings on RCI: #3023 Crane Beach Resort #6390 Crane Residential Resort #C556 Park Residences at Crane Can someone help me understand the differences? Are there any codes that I should avoid in a search? Also they are all listed as RCI Points. Does that...

tugbbs.com

If you're interested in HGVC, make sure you're looking at a HGVC resale week. The HGVC resale units should work like the other HGVC resorts. Your HGVC deeded week will be assigned points to book at any HGVC Club resort during the Club Reservation Window (which is after the priority booking windows for home resort owners ends).

Here's a thread regarding the HGVC unit types acquired and availability.

HGVC Barbados at the Crane Availability

Has anyone booked a stay here at the 9 month window recently? Wondering what availability is like? I was thinking of booking for Presidents Day week in 2022. Should I start walking a reservation now? It’s particularly annoying to do that since this resort can not be booked on the app, and would...

tugbbs.com

Here's the HGVC point chart for Crane.

 

[hgvcdude]

I wouldn't buy at the Crane. I heard you don't get a deed, you just get a membership certificate. I heard the certificates are only good for 40 years or something like that, and it will be less than 40 if you buy resale. Depends how long the original owner had it, but I wouldn't buy since it's not a deed that is for life. I'd stick with buying in Vegas if I were you.

 

[Red elephant]

I wouldn't buy at the Crane. I heard you don't get a deed, you just get a membership certificate. I heard the certificates are only good for 40 years or something like that, and it will be less than 40 if you buy resale. Depends how long the original owner had it, but I wouldn't buy since it's not a deed that is for life. I'd stick with buying in Vegas if I were you.

This means I am not guaranteed a week there if I buy Vegas. It would not be my home resort correct ?

 

[Red elephant]

The Crane is not a HGVC developed resort. HGVC acquired 38 units from the Crane to add a Caribbean destination to their list of locations.
Here's a link to the Crane's website - https://www.thecrane.com/resort/history/

Here's an older TUG thread that describes the Crane phases (Resort vs Residences)

Crane Resort Barbados RCI Listings

Noticed that there are 3 Crane resort listings on RCI: #3023 Crane Beach Resort #6390 Crane Residential Resort #C556 Park Residences at Crane Can someone help me understand the differences? Are there any codes that I should avoid in a search? Also they are all listed as RCI Points. Does that...

tugbbs.com

If you're interested in HGVC, make sure you're looking at a HGVC resale week. The HGVC resale units should work like the other HGVC resorts. Your HGVC deeded week will be assigned points to book at any HGVC Club resort during the Club Reservation Window (which is after the priority booking windows for home resort owners ends).

Here's a thread regarding the HGVC unit types acquired and availability.

HGVC Barbados at the Crane Availability

Has anyone booked a stay here at the 9 month window recently? Wondering what availability is like? I was thinking of booking for Presidents Day week in 2022. Should I start walking a reservation now? It’s particularly annoying to do that since this resort can not be booked on the app, and would...

tugbbs.com

Here's the HGVC point chart for Crane.

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Thanks for all the information . I was only interested in getting a deed for home resort in Barbados. So 38 units is not a lot .

 

[alwysonvac]

In HGVC's October 2018 newsletter, they simply indicated that HGVC was acquiring existing inventory in phases (see screen capture below).

A Barbados 2018 article indicated that the HGVC deal would also include new built inventory in the future (see post #32 in this TUG thread) but I don't recall seeing any official announcement from HGVC.

From HGVC's October 2018 newsletter - https://club.hiltongrandvacations.c...10/hgv-is-bound-for-chicago-and-the-caribbean

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[1Kflyerguy]

This means I am not guaranteed a week there if I buy Vegas. It would not be my home resort correct ?

Your home resort would be in Vegas, so you would lose the home week booking window advantage. I don't follow the Crane, so not sure how difficult it is to book, but since its only so few units i would guess it might be more difficult than many resorts.

Do plan to visit the Crane every year? And if so would you likely be staying in the season and unit type you own? if so it might make sense to own there.

As for the ownership certificate mentioned above, that something to consider. Personally it would not stop me, but i know others really dislike them.

 

[Red elephant]

I plan on visiting every year in platinum season. That’s the only reason why I’m interested in Hilton.What are ownerships certificates I’m not sure. I understand those.

 

[Red elephant]

Your home resort would be in Vegas, so you would lose the home week booking window advantage. I don't follow the Crane, so not sure how difficult it is to book, but since its only so few units i would guess it might be more difficult than many resorts.

Do plan to visit the Crane every year? And if so would you likely be staying in the season and unit type you own? if so it might make sense to own there.

As for the ownership certificate mentioned above, that something to consider. Personally it would not stop me, but i know others really dislike them.

Sorry, did not press reply but see my answer above

 

[dayooper]

I plan on visiting every year in platinum season. That’s the only reason why I’m interested in Hilton.What are ownerships certificates I’m not sure. I understand those.

Many international properties have ownership certificates (or in the case of the Scotland Lodges, Holiday Certificates). The certificate grants the owner a week in their lodge/suite/unit. It acts much like a deed as it assigns rights to that week (and in most cases, unit) to the holder. Since it's not deeded, you do lose some protection from the HGVC system, but you should be fine. There has been only one case where a holiday certificate has had major changes to it's ability to use the HGVC system and that was because there were disagreement between the owners at a Scotland Lodge had corporate HGVC. The owners still owned there week, but the ability to use points in the HGVC system do not transfer with the sale of the certificate. Since you are looking to only use your week as a home week, that shouldn't effect you even in the rare case of something happening.

 

[GT75]

I plan on visiting every year in platinum season. That’s the only reason why I’m interested in Hilton.

And staying for a week beginning on HW check-in day in the exact unit you purchased?

 

[Red elephant]

And staying for a week beginning on HW check-in day in the exact unit you purchased?

My plan is to go in Nov- January early February . No specific day. So if you are referring to fixed week and day then probably not.

 

[buzglyd]

My plan is to go in Nov- January early February . No specific day. So if you are referring to fixed week and day then probably not.

Your home week is in a specific season so you should be ok. Just remember, it has to be in the unit type you own and if it’s a Saturday to Saturday week you can’t go Wednesday to Wednesday or whatever.

 

[Yzfguy06]

I'll try to look at what i have when i get home. I bought The Crane earlier this year.

 

[Red elephant]

I'll try to look at what i have when i get home. I bought The Crane earlier this year.

Oh wow!!! Where did you get it from? I see some on redweek.

 

[Red elephant]

Your home week is in a specific season so you should be ok. Just remember, it has to be in the unit type you own and if it’s a Saturday to Saturday week you can’t go Wednesday to Wednesday or whatever.

On redweek they have residence and resort the price difference is stark makes me wonder.

 

[Yzfguy06]

On redweek they have residence and resort the price difference is stark makes me wonder.

I don't recall what i have. I mainly bought it for the price and the MF. Maybe 2025 we'll travel there. Just sucks getting there from the west coast.

 

[alwysonvac]

My plan is to go in Nov- January early February . No specific day. So if you are referring to fixed week and day then probably not.

Judi has Crane resale weeks too (link) but read @zerocylinders posts regarding the Crane before buying.

 

[Yzfguy06]

I have a membership certificate.

 

[alwysonvac]

I'll try to look at what i have when i get home. I bought The Crane earlier this year.

Please add the Crane's 2024 MF to the sticky thread at the top of this forum,
Your billing letter should include MFs for all unit types.

Here's what was posted for 2023 MF.

The Crane - Studio Garden View
2023 Operating Fee - $696.67
2023 Reserve Fee - $95.44
2023 Real Estate Tax - $3.58
2023 Total - $795.68
Increase of $17.71, or 2.27% over 2022 ($777.98)

The Crane - 1BR Park
2023 Operating Fee - $1016.89
2023 Reserve Fee - $121.68
2023 Real Estate Tax - $4.56
2023 Total - $1143.13
Increase of $27.01, or 2.42% over 2022 ($1116.12)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe
2023 Operating Fee - $1433.85
2023 Reserve Fee - $182.13
2023 Real Estate Tax - $6.83
2023 Total - $1622.81
Increase of $38.09, or 2.40% over 2022 ($1584.72)

The Crane - 1BR with Pool/Garden
2023 Operating Fee - $1689.16
2023 Reserve Fee - $210.56
2023 Real Estate Tax - $7.89
2023 Total - $1907.61
Increase of $47.79, or 2.51% over 2022 ($1860.82)

The Crane - 1BR Penthouse with Rooftop Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $1286.23
2023 Reserve Fee - $201.81
2023 Real Estate Tax - $7.56
2023 Total - $1495.60
Increase of $31.80, or 2.17% over 2022 ($1463.80)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe Penthouse with Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $1811.87
2023 Reserve Fee - $295.07
2023 Real Estate Tax - $11.06
2023 Total - $2118.00
Increase of $44.78, or 2.16% over 2022 ($2073.22)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe with Ocean View
2023 Operating Fee - $1520.26
2023 Reserve Fee - $188.70
2023 Real Estate Tax - $7.07
2023 Total - $1716.03
Increase of $40.98, or 2.45% over 2022 ($1675.05)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe Ocean View/Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $2016.72
2023 Reserve Fee - $314.28
2023 Real Estate Tax - $11.78
2023 Total - $2342.78
Increase of $59.19, or 2.59% over 2022 ($2283.59)

The Crane - 1BR Deluxe Ocean View/Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $1895.29
2023 Reserve Fee - $248.67
2023 Real Estate Tax - $9.32
2023 Total - $2153.28
Increase of $50.86, or 2.41% over 2022 ($2102.42)

The Crane - 2BR with Pool & Garden
2023 Operating Fee - $2238.33
2023 Reserve Fee - $283.98
2023 Real Estate Tax - $10.64
2023 Total - $2532.95
Increase of $62.07, or 2.51% over 2022 ($2470.88)

The Crane - 2BR Ocean View & Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $3043.21
2023 Reserve Fee - $447.68
2023 Real Estate Tax - $16.78
2023 Total - $3507.67
Increase of $80.09, or 2.34% over 2022 ($3427.58)

The Crane - 2BR Ocean View Penthouse with Plunge Pool
2023 Operating Fee - $3487.86
2023 Reserve Fee - $527.18
2023 Real Estate Tax - $19.76
2023 Total - $4034.80
Increase of $89.63, or 2.27% over 2022 ($3945.17)

 

[Red elephant]

I have a membership certificate.

You bought this resale? When does it expire or how long do you have it for?

 

[Red elephant]

Judi has Crane resale weeks too (link) but read @zerocylinders posts regarding the Crane before buying.

Why does the list price for 1 bedroom vary? From 2900-17,000. Why does each listing have a separate point value when they are platinum season?

 

[ljmiii]

Why does the list price for 1 bedroom vary? From 2900-17,000. Why does each listing have a separate point value when they are platinum season?

The value of a timeshare (and thus the list price) is in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't mean a willing buyer would pay it.

And there are eight different types of 1BRs at the HGVC Crane (though two of them have the same point value). See the chart that @alwaysonvac posted.

 

[alwysonvac]

Why does the list price for 1 bedroom vary? From 2900-17,000. Why does each listing have a separate point value when they are platinum season?

Q: Why does the list price for 1 bedroom vary? From 2900-17,000.
Similar to the weeks you have listed under your TUG username (Westin St john, Harborside, Westin Nanea, Sheraton Desert Oasis, Sheraton Vistana Villages and Sheraton Broadway Plantation) resale prices will vary by seller. Some resale prices are unrealistic. Some of these sellers believe timeshares are an investment. Other sellers understand that it's a buyer's market and that in order to get their week sold quicker than the competition, they need to offer the best/compelling price. Some sellers simply want out.

Q: Why does each listing have a separate point value when they are platinum season?
Refer to the point chart I provided in post #2 above.

From the link I provided in post #18.

 

[GT75]

Crane has one of the most difficult point structures to figure out just by viewing the room types vs. MFs vs. budget report.