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AVG Anti-Virus 2012 Starting to Block TUGBBS webpages!

timeos2 said:
Closing IE now (thankfully) so that threat to my pc is now mostly removed. If it weren't for the many & frequent MS patches I'd get rid of it entirely.
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John, I thought you were "Proudly Microsoft & Apple free with WebOS, Droid Bionic & Verizon Wireless". If that is the case, why would you be needing to obtain the frequent MS patches?
 
Ron98GT said:
Virus found in Java:

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/cache_virus.xml

Recent Java bug fix:

http://newyork.newsday.com/business...s-oracle-fixes-security-bugs-in-pcs-1.3939510

More about recent Java bugs:

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Warning-on-critical-Java-hole-1676219.html

Virus scanners & java bug:

http://www.h-online.com/security/ne...irus-scanners-block-Java-exploit-1696462.html


Java, version-7, update-6, buggy :shrug:

So, sounds like a Java problem. Hits PC's & Mac's.
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Just to set some information straight. I am getting the avast warning steadily still. The warning is about a JAVASCRIPT file (.js). I have been a web developer for going on 14 years, and have been a java certified developer since 1998. javascript and java have no relationship to each other except for the name. Java is a programming language that can be used to create huge applications, applets, etc. javascript is a scripting language that runs inside a browser (formally called liveScript). The warnings we are seeing will not be solved by "upgrading your java".

I don't want anyone to get a false sense of security by looking @ upgrading java on their computer. The issue is server side, not client side.

Greg.
 
dioxide45 said:
John, I thought you were "Proudly Microsoft & Apple free with WebOS, Droid Bionic & Verizon Wireless". If that is the case, why would you be needing to obtain the frequent MS patches?
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In my usual access I'm blessedly MS free but my laptop and work pc's are cursed with Win7 or XP. Have to have it for testing. Even have a Mac book but seldom turn it on.
 
va_traveller said:
Just to set some information straight. I am getting the avast warning steadily still. The warning is about a JAVASCRIPT file (.js). I have been a web developer for going on 14 years, and have been a java certified developer since 1998. javascript and java have no relationship to each other except for the name. Java is a programming language that can be used to create huge applications, applets, etc. javascript is a scripting language that runs inside a browser (formally called liveScript). The warnings we are seeing will not be solved by "upgrading your java".

I don't want anyone to get a false sense of security by looking @ upgrading java on their computer. The issue is server side, not client side.

Greg.
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Did you even open and READ any of the attached files? You disagree with "Java", the company, that admits they have buggy code? Java themselves stated "TROJAN" virus. Also, there is no "Upgrade", since the latest versions are buggy, again read my whole posting and the attached links. Do a Google search. I'm not making this stuff up, talk to Java and see what they say.

I believe your the first to mention "JAVASCRIPT" warnings. Others have stated "Trojan", which again relates back to Java, an Oracle company.
 
Ron98GT said:
Did you even open and READ any of the attached files? You disagree with "Java", the company, that admits they have buggy code? Java themselves stated "TROJAN" virus. Also, there is no "Upgrade", since the latest versions are buggy, again read my whole posting and the attached links. Do a Google search. I'm not making this stuff up, talk to Java and see what they say.

I believe your the first to mention "JAVASCRIPT" warnings. Others have stated "Trojan", which again relates back to Java, an Oracle company.
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I am getting warnings from Kasperski about a trojan in a javascript. The point va was making is Java and javascript are unrelated. Upgrading Java won't help when the problem is in a javascript.

This is the ONLY web site I see this. I get the warnings on two computers and on Firefox and IE.

I've opened a case with Kasperski to see what they say.
 
piper_chuck said:
I am getting warnings from Kasperski about a trojan in a javascript. The point va was making is Java and javascript are unrelated. Upgrading Java won't help when the problem is in a javascript.

This is the ONLY web site I see this. I get the warnings on two computers and on Firefox and IE.

I've opened a case with Kasperski to see what they say.
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Exactly, the issue reported by the client AV is a script file on the server (javascript) trying to load a Trojan on client machines by exploiting a security hole in the client side java app. Patching the client java version only blocks the payload being delivered, if it hasn't already been blocked by AV.

The report I saw indicated this site was blacklisted due to an old version of the bbs software that needs to be upgraded, I'm sure the admins will sort it out. Until then I'll access using my iPad. :)
 
So....is there any danger in just leaving everything as is until it's fixed? Yes, it's annoying but can it cause any damage?

---------Zach
 
Trojan Horse / Virus alert no longer issued...

I received no "threat blocked" message today from Avast upon accessing TUG. I don't claim to know how or why, but for me the problem seems to have disappeared :shrug:. Smilies are now "back" too. :)
 
theo said:
I received no "threat blocked" message today from Avast upon accessing TUG. I don't claim to know how or why, but for me the problem seems to have disappeared :shrug:. Smilies are now "back" too. :)
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Good news indeed. :clap:
Are others still receiving the warnings?

As you may imagine, it is very hard for me to research this, since I have never received the warnings here, so there is no way for me to know if any changes I make fix the problem.

My system:
  • Firefox, currently 15.0.1
  • AVG 2012 Free Edition, updated daily
  • Java version installed, ver 7 update 5 - (Edit: However, I seldom have use of Java and generally keep it DISabled in my browser. Now updated to update 7)
 
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This morning (6 am in AZ), there hasn't been a single Kaspersky warning about a Trojan threat. It was constant pop-ups all day yesterday. A few days ago, a friend (computer pro) told me not to update Java because there were problems with the latest version. I ignored Java nagging me to update. Still got the Kasperky warnings, though.
 
I haven't tried Firefox yet today. Still using Chrome or Safari (on iPad). I'm a little gun shy after loading new AVG definitions twice yesterday only to have to do 2 system restores.

Methinks I'll wait for a few more clean reports.

Jim
 
No warnings this morning.
 
I've made no changes on my end, yet Firefox started working again today with no AVG warnings and the Quick Links menu option is back. ;)
 
No pop up warnings now, came up earlier this morning.
 
OK, I'm convinced. I reinstalled a fresh AVG and am back with Firefox. It seems to be OK and all TUG features are working normally so far. I wonder what fixed it? Like Doug (Makai Guy) said- if he doesn't experience the problem, it's hard to make adjustments.

Jim
 
you can all thank doug for this one...it even stumped our server host!

Thankfully he was able to get it all working again for us.

Thank you to all of those who provided us with your information to help us identify the problem.
 
TheWizz said:
I've made no changes on my end, yet Firefox started working again today with no AVG warnings and the Quick Links menu option is back. ;)
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Buggard! It's back!!! :(

Getting the Phoenix Exploit Kit (type 769) messages again...
 
The threat alert is now reoccurring for me.

Firefox browser - all updates installed (latest update was this morning). AVG antivirus up to date. Java up to date.
 
Java 7

I have had zero problems. I am using Windows 7 with the latest up-dates, Firefox 15.0.1 and BitDefender 2012. As far as I can tell (I can't find it listed as a file anywhere), I do not have Java loaded on this machine.

However, I recently loaded Java 7 on a Windows XP machine. While I have not attempted to access TUG on that machine, I have received a variety of
"you are trying to go someplace unsafe" messages from the McAfee antivirus (as provided by Road Runner) on that machine.

I am in the group that thinks the Java 7 up-date is a primary candidate as the source of the TUG access issues.

Art
 
T_R_Oglodyte said:
The threat alert is now reoccurring for me.

Firefox browser - all updates installed (latest update was this morning). AVG antivirus up to date. Java up to date.
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TheWizz said:
Buggard! It's back!!! :(

Getting the Phoenix Exploit Kit (type 769) messages again...
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I've just tried something on this. Please first clear your browser caches to be sure you get fresh copies of the files, and try again.
 
It's back for me as well within the last hour. I have installed new AVG and definitions today, and per suggestion have cleared the browser cache. Same Phoenix Exploit Kit Type 769. GRRRR!

Jim
 
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