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AVG Anti-Virus 2012 Starting to Block TUGBBS webpages!

well its definately only happening to a small % of individuals...based on past "issues" and more importantly the earlier "redirect from google links" issue (which is purely subjective, i base it on how many calls/emails i get telling me about the problem)...

I still want it fixed however! :)
 
Well, lets see here, I am back to my usual Firefox Beta 16. Looks like BOLD Italics, underlining, color, and :wave: :D :p smilies seem to be working like they were 2 days ago. I'll check the Quick Links in the blue stripe now but will assume it will work normally as well. ADDED: Yup, Quick links works normally.

If I were a gambler, I'd say the Java update of 9/6 is the culprit.

Jim
 
i posted something in the thread up top regarding the "weird things" people were seeing in the forum (not virus related)...see if we can get a few more to confirm this.

wonder if its an issue with the java update, or just that the forum has gotten so old...its no longer compatible with the new update.
 
TUGBrian said:
i posted something in the thread up top regarding the "weird things" people were seeing in the forum (not virus related)...see if we can get a few more to confirm this.

wonder if its an issue with the java update, or just that the forum has gotten so old...its no longer compatible with the new update.
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It doesn't appear to be the Java version as I'm on the latest on multiple platforms with no issues. It may be a version issue with the programs that are showing the error & their interaction with Java. Right now I'd guess that is the most likely answer. As AVG etc are updated the problem will cease.
 
TUGBrian said:
wonder if its an issue with the java update, or just that the forum has gotten so old...its no longer compatible with the new update.
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What if you got with the Java folks and told them that a fair number of your members experienced a problem that manifested itself after a Java update and was resolved after a system restore to a point before the update? I'm sure that TUG couldn't be the only affected site.

Anyway, however it goes, I'm relieved to not have the warning/notification every time I click on a TUG link.

Thanks Brian for your concern and sticking with this.

Jim
 
i think at the very least...we can confirm (with a good amount of certainty) that it is a false positive either way.
 
Ron98GT said:
I received the notice yesterday also, but I clicked "NO".

Late last year, one of my computers and the attached external hard-drive got infected from an Adobe update. It was so bad that I had to replace the hard-drive & then update to Window 7 Professional. There is a lot of info on the Internet about computer viruses associated with Adobe updates - be aware, and never allow an automatic update for an Adobe product. If there is an update and you verified that it's safe, go to the Adobe web site and download it. In the past I've received update notices, gone to the vendors web site, and found that no updates were available, but a virus would have been downloaded.
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Yikes....that's scary! I've been automatically updating everything, figuring it was always fixing some unknown bug. Thanks for posting.

------------Zach
 
Picker57 said:
Yikes....that's scary! I've been automatically updating everything, figuring it was always fixing some unknown bug. Thanks for posting.

------------Zach
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Generally speaking it is usually best to do updates as they are announced officially by the vendor especially if it is called a security issue. But do require that it be a manula install not automatic & verify with the manufacturer website that is is really from them.

Some that you almost can't avoid are the Microsoft Windows ones. While I used to pick & choose those too it became impossible to know as an end user what was OK and what was likely to cause more problems! So I went to download but don't install, wait a couple days after they are released and if all appears OK and no "uh-oh's" posted on known sites like InfoWorld or PC Mag, etc then I allow them to install. If you don't you are at serious risk as they can muck around with setings you can never fix again!

Often an update to one program - such as Java, Firefox, your anti-virus, etc will cause issues with other programs that utilize those services untilt the OTHER programs are also updated. That I live with as security is more important than the latest gizmo. Using this method I have had no infections on my primary pc's in over 10 years. Much of that success I give to the excellent Trend Micro services that have never failed me.

Even my "secondary" pc's - my daughters & wifes as well as those I use for servicing other's brokn/infected PC's have had few issues all of which were easily repaired again with Trend Micro & AVG as the protection. You need that as the primary defense.
 
timeos2 said:
It doesn't appear to be the Java version as I'm on the latest on multiple platforms with no issues. It may be a version issue with the programs that are showing the error & their interaction with Java. Right now I'd guess that is the most likely answer. As AVG etc are updated the problem will cease.
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"All versions of the 7.x branch of Java are affected. In tests, the exploit worked under Windows with all popular browsers including Google Chrome."

per The H Security

Note that the bug/virus also hits Mac's (Linux/Unix based operating system), so they are not immune.
 
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timeos2 said:
Some that you almost can't avoid are the Microsoft Windows ones. While I used to pick & choose those too it became impossible to know as an end user what was OK and what was likely to cause more problems! So I went to download but don't install, wait a couple days after they are released and if all appears OK and no "uh-oh's" posted on known sites like InfoWorld or PC Mag, etc then I allow them to install.
Even my "secondary" pc's - my daughters & wifes as well as those I use for servicing other's brokn/infected PC's have had few issues all of which were easily repaired again with Trend Micro & AVG as the protection.
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As I found out earlier today, doing the Windows updates as offered, gives you a handy place to go to with System Restore. It offers you several restore points that coincide with significant software installs and upgrades. I was able to go back to a point less than 48 hours ago- only 18 hours from when the problem manifested itself.

Jim
 
No TUG problems here, using Safari on Mac and iPad.

'course I did get the weird multi-dolphin screen a few months ago, so I don't feel left out.
 
from the logs...

TUGBrian said:
so bizarre...my av software picks up nothing on firefox or chrome browsers...both spybot and MBAM scans show nothing infected (and i even disabled av and browsed)...

i can only guess this at the moment is a false positive...but id still like to find out whats causing it and fix it.
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This is the log iten from the Kasperski logs if it helps:

vbulletin_global.js?v=364 Detected: HEUR:Trojan.Script.Iframer 9/6/2012 3:18:59 PM
 
yea, the global.js file has been gone over countless times at this point, (its not a super long file...content wise)...while its clear its triggering the alert...there is no malware or calls to malware inside it.

it is 100% identical to the global.js file we have from previous backup files (that existed long before this alert came around)
 
No problems here (running Chrome/Win7). I did have TUG weirdness yesterday morning at work (Firefox on Linux), but I didn't pay attention to the error message, and the issue resolved quickly.
 
I checked our Java version and it is currently running version 6, last updated on 8/10.

The fool that I was, I thought I would open up IE and go to TUG. Instantly McAfee was trying to block a Trojan. It wasn't overly successful as I had a program popup in my toolbox indicating the PC was infected and to run a scan using that program. It appears to be a program that tries to get you to accidentally run it to remove a non existent virus then they will try to extort money from you to get rid of the virus. I didn't run anything and did a restart. There was also a link on the desktop to a file on the C:\Program Data folder. I deleted the link and the files. Running a full virus scan now. Back in Chrome now.
 
ugh...i absolutely hate those.

did you get it just from going to the TUG homepage? or a bookmarked link? or thru google?
 
TUGBrian said:
ugh...i absolutely hate those.

did you get it just from going to the TUG homepage? or a bookmarked link? or thru google?
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I access Tug through a bookmark to the UserCP page. I had surfed around the BBS a little before I got the warning. So I don't know where it is coming from exactly. I also use a computer using IE 6.0 that has not had the problem. However on that computer, I am never logged in to the forums.

ETA: It created a folder with the following name: 036DFF85030E158B02ABE9FA2F3B707C. The exe file was in that folder, it has been purged from my recycle bin, so I can't tell you the file name exactly.
 
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Ron98GT said:
XP Home or Professional?
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XP Professional, IE8 as browser. Still getting the "Trojan Horse virus successfully blocked message this evening immediately upon visiting TUG (before even logging in).
 
Boy, I don't know. I did another system restore to an hour ago, and it is back to working fine. I still have virus protection AVG free 2012 (not '13) I think, and updated my superantispyware. It had not refreshed for some time, so I just reloaded it.

I may just use Chrome for my TUG BBSing for a while. :) Oh, the custom formatting and smilies went away too, and the Quick Links above. All is back on my computer now, though.

This is a PITA!

Jim
 
Here's a link to another forum where there was a similar issue. Don't know if it's any help, but......

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php/271944-Malware-warning-again-Resolved


Here's the nature of the issue from an admin:

"We've discovered the source of this (Caused by an out of date no longer in-use script that was never removed from the server and subsequently exploited)

We are clean now, but AVG will continue to pop those warnings up until it is cleared from their warning cache."
 
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