Are you going out more now that you have a mask?

[PamMo]

According to a study by Amy Mueller and Loretta Fernandez at Northeastern University, you can GREATLY increase the efficiency of a homemade mask by adding a nylon layer on top of it. When my sister first told me about it, I laughed at how ridiculous that sounded, but here's their abstract and it does make sense. More importantly than an extra layer of filtration, it helps to hold the facemask in place - https://www.northeastern.edu/envsen...yReportFacemaskTestingProtocol_2020-04-17.pdf

If you'd rather read the story from NPR, here you go - https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-boost-protection-from-cloth-masks-study-find

They advise you to cut a tube out of a nylon stocking/pantyhose, and pull it over your head to cover your facemask. The nylon helps to seal the top, bottom and sides of the mask. It doesn't look as "I'm going out to rob a bank" as it sounds.

 

[AJCts411]

I'm following WHO's and the medical community experts initial advise not wearing one because they don't help....just a little humor.

 

[WVBaker]

Heightened contradictions
The agency recommends that people who are sick wear a face mask or otherwise attempt "to cover your coughs and sneezes," while those caring for them should also wear a face mask whenever they are in the same room. Yet, in the same advice, the CDC said that non-symptomatic "do not need" to wear face masks, adding that they "may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers."

And this is what has been so frustrating and confusing for many people, particularly those who advocate for wearing face masks as a precaution. The CDC, along with the WHO and several other public health bodies and experts, has been simultaneously claiming that masks do not offer protection in ordinary circumstances, while stating they are necessary for health workers and caregivers.

Masks work
One of the reasons the CDC's Redfield gave for potentially changing the guidance on masks is that the coronavirus can be spread when people are asymptomatic, and therefore having everyone covering their faces -- as has been the norm in Hong Kong and other parts of Asia since January -- could help rein in transmission.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/asia/coronavirus-mask-messaging-intl-hnk/index.html

Should you not like the advice just wait, it'll change.

 

[PamMo]

Maybe we should add masked photos of ourselves in the Pictures of TUGgers thread! https://tugbbs.com/forums/threads/pictures-of-tuggers.96470/

 

[Luanne]

We always had masks. I'm only going out when necessary and I wear a mask when I'm going to be where there will be others.

 

[geekette]

Heightened contradictions
The agency recommends that people who are sick wear a face mask or otherwise attempt "to cover your coughs and sneezes," while those caring for them should also wear a face mask whenever they are in the same room. Yet, in the same advice, the CDC said that non-symptomatic "do not need" to wear face masks, adding that they "may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers."

And this is what has been so frustrating and confusing for many people, particularly those who advocate for wearing face masks as a precaution. The CDC, along with the WHO and several other public health bodies and experts, has been simultaneously claiming that masks do not offer protection in ordinary circumstances, while stating they are necessary for health workers and caregivers.

Masks work
One of the reasons the CDC's Redfield gave for potentially changing the guidance on masks is that the coronavirus can be spread when people are asymptomatic, and therefore having everyone covering their faces -- as has been the norm in Hong Kong and other parts of Asia since January -- could help rein in transmission.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/asia/coronavirus-mask-messaging-intl-hnk/index.html

Should you not like the advice just wait, it'll change.

CDC lost me when they indicated it was fine for health care workers to use bandanas.

 

[bnoble]

Now that more people have masks, are they leaving home more often because they think they're safer?

Do others? They might. I am not. We try to limit our in-store grocery shopping to one person once/week for the four adults. Pretty much anything that can be deferred is.

What I find interesting is scenarios like these:

When U-M went to all-remote instruction, we told the kids that they could move back home or stay in their apartments, but they (a) had to decide by that weekend and (b) that decision was for the foreseeable future. My wife shops for her father for a variety of reasons, but that's a contact-less drop off. I talk to my Mom online, not in person. Otherwise, the four of us don't interact in person with any other friends or family, and won't at least until Michigan lifts its stay-at-home order.

It's just all so sad......everything we all look forward to....gone now....

There will come a day when some of this is behind us.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

Masks have been worn in Asia long before Covid-19. I think their hunch is correct. It is also considered a sign of hygiene and respect, just as Americans consider deodorant a hygiene regimen. Masks outside of Asia may follow as a sign of hygiene and respect for others. Especially in crowded places.

@Panina IMHO...I wouldn't shop at a store where the staff is not wearing masks. They are more likely to be infected than anyone else due to their exposure to so many people. Once stores realize business is affected, then they may require of staff and customers to protect their staff.

If wearing a mask is one of the necessities of opening up the economy. I am all for it.

 

[geist1223]

Well- if everyone around you does wear a mask then you are all helping to protect each other. Of course, the mask is just in case someone coughs or sneezes or spits at you or you do the same to them without covering your or their mouths. But if you are 6 feet away from another it isn't even an issue really.

Six feet is not enough If someone does a serious hard sneeze or cough.

 

[geist1223]

Interesting was a Report out of Britain. It came about because people were verbally harassing people that were jogging or bike riding through the neighborhoods without a Mask. The Report concluded that even a person infected with COVID19 would not eject enough of the virus even during exercise to infect other people. That it took a serious hard sneeze or cough to eject the virus.

 

[pedro47]

WinniWoman, please be safe and stay safe. Just say no to your guest.

 

[TravelTime]

Not going out more but always wear a mask if I do.

Stopped to pick up a smoothie yesterday, a young lady was there picking up, no mask. She was coughing quite a bit, not even covering her mouth so I waited outside, very inconsiderate.

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Where are these statistics coming from?

 

[dioxide45]

Where are these statistics coming from?

See post #24

 

[TravelTime]

See post #24

Thanks I looked at Post 24. I figured the stats were made up. This sounds like something that goes viral and then it becomes a ”fact.”

 

[dioxide45]

Thanks I looked at Post 24. I figured the stats were made up. This sounds like something that goes viral and then it become a ”fact.”

You got it, likely made by someone that wants everyone to wear masks.

 

[WinniWoman]

Six feet is not enough If someone does a serious hard sneeze or cough.

Well- you can always put your sleeve up over your face or so can they. The chances of that happening is slim.

 

[easyrider]

I think our county is thinking we are over the hump. I went to Lowes today and it was packed. Very few people wore a mask. The same thing is happening every where I look. No one is wearing masks. Every one is out and about.

Even so, I can't get my hair cut. At this point I might as well go back to looking like 70's Bill.

Bill

 

[Monykalyn]

Heightened contradictions
The agency recommends that people who are sick wear a face mask or otherwise attempt "to cover your coughs and sneezes," while those caring for them should also wear a face mask whenever they are in the same room. Yet, in the same advice, the CDC said that non-symptomatic "do not need" to wear face masks, adding that they "may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers."

And this is what has been so frustrating and confusing for many people, particularly those who advocate for wearing face masks as a precaution. The CDC, along with the WHO and several other public health bodies and experts, has been simultaneously claiming that masks do not offer protection in ordinary circumstances, while stating they are necessary for health workers and caregivers.

Masks work
One of the reasons the CDC's Redfield gave for potentially changing the guidance on masks is that the coronavirus can be spread when people are asymptomatic, and therefore having everyone covering their faces -- as has been the norm in Hong Kong and other parts of Asia since January -- could help rein in transmission.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/asia/coronavirus-mask-messaging-intl-hnk/index.html

Should you not like the advice just wait, it'll change.

The WHO guidelines have been consistent, It is the CDC who (IMO) appear to be desperate to "DO SOMETHING" that is resulting in their contradictory statements on masks. Home made cloth masks offer little protection either way.

https://www.dora.dmu.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/2086/19526/Face%20masks%20caution%20in%20policy_v1_2020-04-22%20%28with%20disclaimers%29.pdf

goes over all the contradictions and very weak actual science behind the whole mask thing.

 

[clifffaith]

Not going out any more often than we did before they said we had to wear masks when we did. Once a week to the PO, with a stop at CVS or groceries if needed, once more if we need to. Try to plan our "out" days in advance. Tuesdays have morphed into the once a week to the PO day (to drop off prepaid label eBay packages, so we're in and out quickly) -- have to find out when my strawberry cream roll cake is being delivered so I don't miss it tomorrow. Found a local Italian baker on FB over the weekend so ordered the rollini because it was the smallest cake she had (not that I'd have any problem polishing off a big cake). I preordered pineapple upside down for May 7 and will take half of that & half a pan of my lasagna to my parent's house -- sister's birthday is the 8th & Mother's day is two days later. Drop off to be done with masks on.

 

[dioxide45]

According to a study by Amy Mueller and Loretta Fernandez at Northeastern University, you can GREATLY increase the efficiency of a homemade mask by adding a nylon layer on top of it. When my sister first told me about it, I laughed at how ridiculous that sounded, but here's their abstract and it does make sense. More importantly than an extra layer of filtration, it helps to hold the facemask in place - https://www.northeastern.edu/envsen...yReportFacemaskTestingProtocol_2020-04-17.pdf

If you'd rather read the story from NPR, here you go - https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-boost-protection-from-cloth-masks-study-find

They advise you to cut a tube out of a nylon stocking/pantyhose, and pull it over your head to cover your facemask. The nylon helps to seal the top, bottom and sides of the mask to. It doesn't look as "I'm going out to rob a bank" as it sounds.

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Something about the image with the nylon doesn't look right. While I can see nylon over the straps, it doesn't look to be right over the top of the nose and under the chin. Shouldn't the mask be pulled even tighter under the chin if it is that tight around the neck. Not disputing if it helps or not, it just looks like it could be photoshopped.

 

[PamMo]

Something about the image with the nylon doesn't look right. While I can see nylon over the straps, it doesn't look to be right over the top of the nose and under the chin. Shouldn't the mask be pulled even tighter under the chin if it is that tight around the neck. Not disputing if it helps or not, it just looks like it could be photoshopped.

I think it might be the angle. It looks pretty tight at the chin, not so much at the neck. A photo of her in the actual abstract looks similar, but she's wearing a different mask with a grommet to sample air inside the mask. The whole point of the nylon layer is to position it so you're breathing through the underlying mask - not getting air infiltrating from the top, bottom, and sides of it. The nylon stocking has to be tight enough to do that.

If I was in a household with someone quarantined with Covid-19, I could see wearing the combination, but I get claustrophobic just wearing my mask for a brief shopping trip to Aldi's. I don't wear a mask when we go out hiking in the woods, which is pretty much my sole escape during our current SIP orders.

 

[slip]

No, not going out any more. Face coverings are mandatory here. I go to work and go home. We go the grocery store every Saturday and maybe stop for some takeout. Otherwise we do a delivery. Maybe a short walk once in a while. That’s about it. Masks are not a part of the equation for us deciding if we go out or not.

 

[VacationForever]

Same... still not going anywhere. We wear our masks when we go out for walks.

 

[bnoble]

Even so, I can't get my hair cut. At this point I might as well go back to looking like 70's Bill.

I got a pair of clippers early on before they'd sold out everywhere. A five on the top and a four on the sides, tapered with a two in the back. Did that myself twice now, and will probably once more before things open up here.

 

[easyrider]

I got a pair of clippers early on before they'd sold out everywhere. A five on the top and a four on the sides, tapered with a two in the back. Did that myself twice now, and will probably once more before things open up here.

That's my son's and son in laws style. They both offered to cut mine but I said no. I still like mine long but now it is totally 70's rock star long, lol. I thought about trying to cut the sides off a bit after I cut the front but didn't want the Joe Dirt look.

Bill