Anyone playing wordle?

[DaveNV]

Having said all the ^^^ above, today I got lucky. Sort of.

Wordle 295 4/6






Dave

 

[bizaro86]

Noo! I got today's in 4, but apparently I forgot to do it yesterday (busy day including a funeral). Streak reset from the 50s back to 1. I'm still 100% successful, but losing the streak irks me.

 

[clifffaith]

My solve-on-three streak continues! I am a new convert to starting with a consonant heavy word. I had 3 letters in the correct position on my first try. Got another on my next try. Then I had three possible words, omitted the one with the most common letter, omitted a word a tiny bit more obscure, went with my third option and got it.

 

[Rolltydr]

My solve-on-three streak continues! I am a new convert to starting with a consonant heavy word. I had 3 letters in the correct position on my first try. Got another on my next try. Then I had three possible words, omitted the one with the most common letter, omitted a word a tiny bit more obscure, went with my third option and got it.

This is the perfect example of why I think for most of us, it is a game of skill and Dave isn't giving himself enough credit. IMHO, you used a very valid thought process and deduced the correct word. You didn't just blindly guess. I think if one is putting thought into their answer, even in Dave's example, you're using deductive reasoning to find the answer and that is more skill than just dumb luck. Or, I'm just trying to make myself feel better!

 

[rickandcindy23]

Got today's in 3, so did Rick.

 

[Marathoner]

Just to prove to myself that I can do it, I tried & finished duotrigordle for the first and last time today


Daily Duotrigordle #39
Guesses: 36/37

Duotrigordle

Put your skills to the test and solve thirty-two Wordles at once! You have 37 guesses to solve all 32 words. A new Duotrigordle available each day to solve.

duotrigordle.com

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

the only way to find out is to blindly guess.

The strategy is not to blindly guess - it's to try a word that eliminates multiple options. For example, if the options are scare, share, snare, spare, and stare, enter a word such as punch. It won't solve, but you will get a yellow if the word is any of the options except stare. So on the following guess, you insert the letter that came up yellow, of if none came up yellow, then by process of elimination the word must be stare.

The only times I blindly guess is when there are only two options (then I pick one) or if I'm down to the last guess and I haven't eliminated all options.

 

[DeniseM]

 

[DaveNV]

The strategy is not to blindly guess - it's to try a word that eliminates multiple options. For example, if the options are scare, share, snare, spare, and stare, enter a word such as punch. It won't solve, but you will get a yellow if the word is any of the options except stare. So on the following guess, you insert the letter that came up yellow, of if none came up yellow, then by process of elimination the word must be stare.

The only times I blindly guess is when there are only two options (then I pick one) or if I'm down to the last guess and I haven't eliminated all options.

In my example, I used sample words, but the point was if I have four letters in the right places, and the fifth letter could be any of several choices, there is no other option except to guess one or the other of those fifth letters it might be. It has to be one of them - but which one? No way to know for sure. So among those letters it IS a blind guess. You might get lucky and get the word on the first try, but you could also be wrong, and would have to guess another letter. There is no way at that point except to guess the final letter. And that's where it's more about luck than skill.

Dave

 

[bizaro86]

In my example, I used sample words, but the point was if I have four letters in the right places, and the fifth letter could be any of several choices, there is no other option except to guess one or the other of those fifth letters it might be. It has to be one of them - but which one? No way to know for sure. So among those letters it IS a blind guess. You might get lucky and get the word on the first try, but you could also be wrong, and would have to guess another letter. There is no way at that point except to guess the final letter. And that's where it's more about luck than skill.

Dave

No, his example is how you solve for that. It takes 2 guesses. First figure out what are the possibilities, then find a word that uses at least all but one of those letters and use that. Whichever one turns yellow (or if none do its the letter you didn't include) is the letter you're missing.

 

[DaveNV]

No, his example is how you solve for that. It takes 2 guesses. First figure out what are the possibilities, then find a word that uses at least all but one of those letters and use that. Whichever one turns yellow (or if none do its the letter you didn't include) is the letter you're missing.

By following that example, I'd still use a guess or two to get the word. If I know the missing letter is one of a number of choices, I'd still use a guess or two to try and find the word. How is that any different? You still don't know the answer till you happen on the right missing letter.

Dave

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

there is no other option except to guess one or the other of those fifth letters it might be. It has to be one of them

No, his example is how you solve for that. It takes 2 guesses. First figure out what are the possibilities, then find a word that uses at least all but one of those letters and use that. Whichever one turns yellow (or if none do its the letter you didn't include) is the letter you're missing.

Bizaro is correct. There are two options. One option, your way is to eliminate the possibilities one at a time. The way I present eliminates multiple possibilities in a single pass. In the example cited there are five possibilities. My approach eliminates four of the options in one pass, so you are guaranteed to get it in two.

Sometimes it doesn't work that neatly. You might end up with four possibilities, but you can't find a word that eliminates more than two of the options. In that case you pick a word the has the missing letter for two of the options. If you hit on the missing letter, then you solve on the next guess. If you still have two guesses remaining then you can just do the remaining two one by one. If you're down to your last guess, then pick one.

 

[bizaro86]

By following that example, I'd still use a guess or two to get the word. If I know the missing letter is one of a number of choices, I'd still use a guess or two to try and find the word. How is that any different? You still don't know the answer till you happen on the right missing letter.

Dave

It's very situation dependent. If there are only two choices left you try them both.

But if you have 5 possibilities and only 3 guesses then eliminating multiple possibilities in a single word is the only way to guarantee a win.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

You still don't know the answer till you happen on the right missing letter.

In the example cited, the missing letter is one of c, h, n, p, or t. Five possibilities. If my next guess is "punch", I will generate a yellow box guessing "punch" if the missing letter is anything other than stare. The box that is yellow also tells me which of the letters is the missing letter, and then I put in the answer next turn. But if none of the letters turns yellow, that means in one guess I will have eliminated c, h, n, and p. The only remaining letter is t, so I would know the word is "stare".

You are correct that you have to happen on the missing letter. The idea though is to use a word that tests for multiple letters in the same guess, instead of testing letters one by one.

 

[DaveNV]

Ok. I understand now. Thank you. Again, I was overthinking things.

Moving on now...

Dave

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

It's very situation dependent. If there are only two choices left you try them both.

Even when there are only two possibilities, I will often use a word that has both letters to identify which one it. The reason I do that sometimes I find that the correct word is a third possibility I've overlooked. More than once I've inserted a word that I'm sure is correct, based process of elimination, only to mutter "wha????" when the guess wasn't correct.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Wordle Tips: The Best Start Words to Keep Your Streak Alive - CNET 7h Gael Fashingbauer Cooper

Wordle Tips: The Very Best Start Words, Tips and Strategies

Learn to use your six guesses most effectively and keep your streak alive.

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Richard

 

[LisaH]

Score!
Wordle 296 3/6

 

[Rolltydr]

Feeling good about a 3 today.

 

[Patri]

You guys are good. Today was rough for me. Even though I did it in 4, I sort of had to cheat (ok, it was cheating). I googled words that had the third and fourth letter in the middle. At least I’m an honest cheater!

 

[DaveNV]

Wordle 296 3/6





Dave

 

[Rolltydr]

You guys are good. Today was rough for me. Even though I did it in 4, I sort of had to cheat (ok, it was cheating). I googled words that had the third and fourth letter in the middle. At least I’m an honest cheater!

Remember that famous line from some movie, “ There’s no cheating in Wordle!”

 

[DaveNV]

Remember that famous line from some movie, “ There’s no cheating in Wordle!”

A League of Their Own. Tom Hanks. "There's no crying in baseball."

One of my favorite films.

Dave

 

[rickandcindy23]

I did it in four today.

 

[Rolltydr]

A League of Their Own. Tom Hanks. "There's no crying in baseball."

One of my favorite films.

Dave

In that case, I will admit I watched it again a couple weeks ago. I love Tom Hanks!