Alleged Service Dogs at Desert Springs Villas

[noreenkate]

Owner trained service dogs (those that haven't undergone training with an accredited organisation) are generally not considered service dogs and are treated as pets

The reason they allow for owner trained service dogs is the cost-
Curious how the cost of an accredited service dog there vs US….

 

[hcarman]

We were at Westin Mission Hills a couple of years ago and there was a yapper in one of the units. It was obvious that the dog was left on it's own while the owners were out. Several of the guests came out to check and called the front desk, including ourselves. Security came out and identified the unit. The following morning everyone in the unit was gone, presumably expelled.

Gee - can we do that when we have children above us screaming and banging?

 

[hcarman]

Through various articles and ADA rule readings over the years, I found the following interesting:

1. If a person needs a service animal, it needs to be with them continuously. That is, they can't go out to dinner and leave the dog on the deck or alone in the unit.
2. If a dog is causing a nuisance like barking (without reason/performing a service) or threatening people, the owner can be directed to remove it from the property - - even if it IS an actual service dog.

Last year at Marriott Newport Coast, when we were out on the lanai, the dog from the adjacent unit would bark at us continuously. It was really annoying. The owners weren't doing much, if anything, to quiet the dog. We called security and when they knocked on the neighbor's door, the dog started barking at the door ferociously. So, much for the ruse of pretending to have a service animal. They were gone within the hour and the next day Marriott did a deep cleaning of their unit. That has got to be an expensive lesson.

Not sure this is always true anymore. We have a neighbor that uses a service dog for night time PTSD and anxiety. He is ex-military. Obviously he would not need to have the dog at dinner with him for performance of this task.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

Not sure this is always true anymore. We have a neighbor that uses a service dog for night time PTSD and anxiety. He is ex-military. Obviously he would not need to have the dog at dinner with him for performance of this task.

I looked at the ADA website (https://www.ada.gov/resources/service-animals-faqs/) and saw the following Q&A

"Q29. Are hotel guests allowed to leave their service animals in their hotel room when they leave the hotel?
A. No, the dog must be under the handler’s control at all times."

 

[sponger76]

Not sure this is always true anymore. We have a neighbor that uses a service dog for night time PTSD and anxiety. He is ex-military. Obviously he would not need to have the dog at dinner with him for performance of this task.

As a service member myself with multiple deployments resulting in PTSD, and also knowing MANY fellow service member with PTSD,it is never just a night-time thing, so that makes no sense.