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A Grave Decision

Egret1986

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This is kind of an odd thread but very interesting.

Bill

I actually started the thread because in researching how to dispose of the three plots that I have inherited, I found several of the statements made in the Kiplinger article about disposing of burial plots sounding much like disposing of timeshares (large upfront fees, waiting months or years for them to sell, if at all; no established resale market, and finding buyers is often tricky).

"Fells warns against any service that requires large upfront fees. Sellers can expect to wait months or years before the plot sells, if it sells at all, so don't go with a service that has monthly or annual costs."

"There's not really an established resale market."

"Finding a buyer is often tricky...."

https://www.kiplinger.com/article/retirement/T021-C000-S001-selling-a-burial-plot-is-a-grave-decision.html

I find myself in this situation.

I did find it interesting how many folks plan to be cremated. It seems like the casket makers and cemeteries might be going the way of shopping malls due to the internet. Things change. The crematoriums must be going full-throttle.
 

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Told my kids and also put it in writing. Cremate and throw ashes anywhere out in nature. Don't waste any money on a decaying corpse.
 

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Due to the increasing popularity of cremation, and financial 'sensitivity' to $10,000 funerals, one of our local funeral homes has applied for a liquor license and to be known henceforth as an 'Event Center'. The owner says that their traditional chapel is largely unused, and that many (most?) of their clients order cremation, and the family then repairs to a friendly watering hole to remember the departed.

Times change.

We throw around terms like 'forever', and 'in perpetuity' when regarding the thoughts and care of the remains of ancestors, and in that context it was in the relatively short span of 5,000 years ago that Egyptians constructed the longest lasting human constructed funerary structures- the pyramids.

Jim
 
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Yes, Egret, I thought that was where this thread would go too.

Last year I started looking into a final resting place. Although I don't particularly care what is done with me, we have been researching family, and were happy to find graves of DW's ancestors from 150+ years ago in San Diego, in the same cemetery where my parents are.

So I inquired about current prices. When I bought my parents' columbarium spot in 1989, it was about $1500. Now it's over $6000. So are others nearby. I find my thinking is influenced by that fact, especially if I were to buy one "pre-need". The ultimate in frugality, I suppose, but surreptitious scattering is looking better.
 

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I'm in the same boat. I too own the adjacent site to where our parents are buried. Neither of my sisters, nor their kids, want the plot. Living in Wisconsin, I will not be returned to Virginia when I die. So I too own a plot that seemingly nobody wants to buy.

Me three. My parents bought four sites in my home town of Ft Myers, Florida. Right now only my father is buried there. I will probably bury my mother's cremains there when she passes. She doesn't want to know what we will do as she is very claustrophobic. I was raised an only child. I am thinking I will donate the plots for someone needy who can not afford them. Perhaps through the church or another organization. My cremains will most likely be buried in my husband's hometown in VA with his. The headstone is already placed and engraved with everything but our death dates. Truthfully, I'd be fine if they would be scattered at the place of my favorite childhood memories, Fisheating Creek, FL.
 

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... Although I don't particularly care what is done with me, we have been researching family, and were happy to find graves of DW's ancestors from 150+ years ago in San Diego, in the same cemetery where my parents are.

That's an interesting thought. I too have been researching family and it's often through "Find A Grave" I find some clarity. With all these "scatterings" are we destroying a record, history, for those to come? Or will the internet provide them all the information they seek? It's exciting to find answers on the internet. But even more moving to actually stand before/above the graves of one's found ancestors. Especially as an adopted child who grew up with no family history at all to claim as my own.
 

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I guess I'm a bit different. I want a funeral (casket at the church) and to be buried. Sacramento has a historic pioneer cemetery. We were able to buy two plots from a man who now lives overseas so would not be using them. Remarkably the cemetery still has about 20 burials a year.

The cemetery went into some decay before being taken over by the city. Now it is know for it's historic roses.

We will be able to have upright markers (vs the flat ones for mowing) which I like.

I am not one to dictate what others should do. However, my belief is that funerals or memorial services are for the people left behind - not the person who died. And having a funeral (w casket) helps make real that the person is gone. My belief is that people who declare they want no kind of remembrance at their death do a disservice to those left behind but that's their choice.
 

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My belief is that people who declare they want no kind of remembrance at their death do a disservice to those left behind but that's their choice.

Yeah, I don't get this. One of my best friends departed this way, and he always had a great time at the farewell parties he attended.
 

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However, my belief is that funerals or memorial services are for the people left behind - not the person who died. And having a funeral (w casket) helps make real that the person is gone. My belief is that people who declare they want no kind of remembrance at their death do a disservice to those left behind but that's their choice.

Absolutely correct. Funeral services are for the living, not the dead. Can't be for the dead, because ... they're dead. If you want to do something for them, you need to do it while they are alive.

In our family, the tradition has become cremation, with some type of close family ceremony involving the handling of the remains. Then there is a memorial service at the church - essentially a funeral services but no corpse and casket.

When my MIL died we had a very touching moment at our family ceremony as we were placing the ashes in the vault that my in-laws had obtained some years back when they were making final plans, in the cemetery where all of their forebears and relations were interred. FIL was in advanced stage Alzheimer's at the time (he died four months later), and was completely disconnected with everything that was going on as were going through our private family ceremony. Then after my wife and SIL put their mother's remains in the vault and shut the door, he turned and put his hand on the vault door, looked at us and said, "Is this where she's going to be?" My BIL said "Yes". He tapped the door and said, "That is good." Five seconds later the moment of lucidity was over and he was back to full-stage dementia.

As I noted above, I have indicated to my family my thoughts on what they could do with my remains if they felt a need to something special to honor me. Though my intent isn't to be honored; rather it is to avoid potential squabbles among them about how I would have liked to have my remains disposed of.
 

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Yeah, I don't get this. One of my best friends departed this way, and he always had a great time at the farewell parties he attended.

I get it. Some people just don't want to create a sad memory. I can't think of any funeral where I was actually happy to attend. In fact, I wonder why the word fun is part of funeral because these really are not fun. :confused:

Bill
 
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