[ 2015 ] Westin Nanea on sale now

[DavidnRobin]

As Denise wrote: Nanea = Nah nay ah

 

[ThreeLittleBirds]

All,

Apparently MFs are priced at $0.0178 per Option, so MFs look to be the following:

1BR RV: $1,441
2BR RV: $2,636
2BR OF: $3,145
3BR OF: $4,587

When I walked through the Hyatt timeshare, their 3BR units had an MF of ~$4,000 and I was surprised at that number. Maui Ocean Club 3BR looks like a "bargain" at $2,700. Personally, I am curious about WPoipu and WCabo and will see those properties have similar high MFs at introduction.

Interesting.

Best,

Greg

One difference being that MOC has an efficiency kitchen whereas Hyatt has a nice full kitchen. Granted, Nanea is newer and flashier than MOC, but wow...that is a spendy MF for a unit you cannot lock off and use multiple weeks

 

[GregT]

One difference being that MOC has an efficiency kitchen whereas Hyatt has a nice full kitchen. Granted, Nanea is newer and flashier than MOC, but wow...that is a spendy MF for a unit you cannot lock off and use multiple weeks

No, actually my MOC 3BR has a much bigger kitchen than the kitchenette in Nanea. I agree that the original MOC tower only has kitchenettes, but the new towers have a full kitchen.

The combo of the limited kitchen, smaller living area, only 2 bathrooms, and higher MFs really decrease the attractiveness of Nanea versus Hyatt and MOC 3BR units.

Interesting. [this pic is of my exact unit: 6206/25 -- I love that place!]

Best,

Greg

 

[DavidnRobin]

Nanea Info

so... did the Owner update

I met 1:1 last week to inquire about a fix/fix VOI here at WPORV- and taking back my EOY, and requaling resale(s). Unfortunately, the specific villa I wanted was sold (probably my fault when I wrote about this in 2011). They offered some others - very nice HH sections, but not for us. May be argumentive here,but wish I picked it up in 2011(esp if I planned a requal at the time - which I didn't have). There is something to be said buying a fix/fix in certain circumstances - precontruction offers some value here if you choose to take that path - very dependent on individuals vacation needs... caveat emptor

Today. (2nd week ) did the incentive update w/spouse as they were just starting to sell Nanea during 1st visit and wasn't prepared. Interestingly, they had to check to see if I could do an Owners Update (w/ incentives - 5000SPs, or $100 at restaurant, or $75 resort credit) after meeting 1:1 first w/o incentive - which makes no logical sense sine they would be happy to meet 1:1 after an Owner Update w/o issue.

Got pricing info for various Nanea sizes and views. As discussed before - no 1Bd. OF villas (I recall the original design had a 1Bd OF, but could be mistaken) - too bad for those just traveling as a couple like us - and view is priority.

I do like how they set-up the various checkin days to the system with clear designation of View that is relative to the SOs that in turn (importantly) are proportional to MFs.

Lunchtime...

 

[DavidnRobin]

so... did the Owner update

I met 1:1 last week to inquire about a fix/fix VOI here at WPORV- and taking back my EOY, and requaling resale(s). Unfortunately, the specific villa I wanted was sold (probably my fault when I wrote about this in 2011). They offered some others - very nice HH sections, but not for us. May be argumentive here,but wish I picked it up in 2011(esp if I planned a requal at the time - which I didn't have). There is something to be said buying a fix/fix in certain circumstances - precontruction offers some value here if you choose to take that path - very dependent on individuals vacation needs... caveat emptor

Today. (2nd week ) did the incentive Update w/spouse update as they were just starting to sell Nanea during 1st visit and wasn't prepared. Interestingly, they had to check to see if I could do an Owners Update (w/ incentives - 5000SPs, or $100 at restaurant, or $75 resort credit) after meeting 1:1 first w/o incentive - which makes no logical sense sine they would be happy to meet 1:1 after an Owner Update w/o issue.

Got pricing info for various Nanea sizes and views. As discussed before - no 1Bd. OF villas (I recall the original design had a 1Bd OF, but could be mistaken) - too bad for those just traveling as a couple like us - and view is priority.

I do like how they set-up the various checkin days to the system with clear designation of View that is relative to the SOs that in turn (importantly) are proportional to MFs.

Lunchtime...

For continuity...

From Sales...
All beds will be King Size (heard that before...)
Likely no underground parking (going to be long walk to OF)
Those 3 HH sections will be OF - 2 on sides, and one overlooking main pool (good idea for those pool-watchers).
380 units, but couldn't get % on OF (that is a lot of occupancy and additional crowds to area)
Available to start Ownership in 2018 as the resort will only likely be open for half of 2017
I think I heard correctly that any amount of OF/RV HOs can be purchased (with 1 week minimum) - so do not need to buy in HO interval packages (this is new)
Can buy a 3Bd OF fix/fix, but not 2Bd OF fix/fix (really...?) - I bring this up, because owning those corner 6th floor villas could have value - and likely will be sold precontruction (IMO)

Sorry if any of above is not clear - writing this on iPad by pool.
I didn't ask about HOs upon resale.

 

[DavidnRobin]

For continuity...

From Sales...
All beds will be King Size (heard that before...)
Likely no underground parking (going to be long walk to OF)
Those 3 HH sections will be OF - 2 on sides, and one overlooking main pool (good idea for those pool-watchers).
380 units, but couldn't get % on OF (that is a lot of occupancy and additional crowds to area)
Available to start Ownership in 2018 as the resort will only likely be open for half of 2017
I think I heard correctly that any amount of OF/RV HOs can be purchased (with 1 week minimum) - so do not need to buy in HO interval packages (this is new)
Can buy a 3Bd OF fix/fix, but not 2Bd OF fix/fix (really...?) - I bring this up, because owning those corner 6th floor villas could have value - and likely will be sold precontruction (IMO)

Sorry if any of above is not clear - writing this on iPad by pool
I didn't ask about HOs upon resale.

Prices/costs... I wrote these down and my handwriting is bad - so sorry if not entirely accurate.

3Bd OF: $111K, 257.7 HOs, 139K SPs, $4582 MFs
2Bd OF: $76K, 176.7K HOs, 95K SPs, $3142 MFs (MFs based on being proportional to HOs)
2Bd RV: $56K, 148.1K HOs, 80K SPs, $2633 MFs
1Bd RV: $31K, 81K HOs, 44K SPs, $1440 MFs

2Bd OF EOY: $44K
3Bd OF fix/fix: $133K, $78K EOY
2Bd OF fix/fix: $92K (but couldn't sell upon further consultation with the wizard being the curtain... ?)

Note - Updated based on my scribbled notes

 

[Politico]

I have my "owners update" early next week. Happy to ask any questions that folks want answered...

 

[DeniseM]

I have my "owners update" early next week. Happy to ask any questions that folks want answered...

I don't expect them to know, but I'd be interested in knowing what the rules will be for resales.

 

[Ken555]

I don't expect them to know, but I'd be interested in knowing what the rules will be for resales.

Developer good. Resale bad.


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[DavidnRobin]

I don't expect them to know, but I'd be interested in knowing what the rules will be for resales.

I would strongly expect that resale HOs will same as any Voluntary Resort - like CV - can use in HomeResort Options as deeded. No SVN. Upon resale - only HomeResort or II. Is the question - can they be used at Nanea at <8 months? I would expect they would be eligible since that is the HomeResort ownership. Sorry didn't ask the specifics on this.

 

[DavidnRobin]

Developer good. Resale bad.


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Sir... you get the new view location... sewage plant...

 

[ValleyGirl]

Ken can you send a pvt msg using tapatalk


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[DeniseM]

Ken can you send a pvt msg using tapatalk


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I'm not sure if you are asking Ken to contact you, or if you are asking about Tapatalk, but yes you can send a PM with Tapatalk.

Click on the three bars icon at the top of the Tapatalk Screen > Messages > New Message.

 

[topdog]

We are at WKORVN now, on an II exchange, and attended the owners update/ Nanea presentation yesterday. They offered a 1 br resort view, plus requalify our SDO gold 2 br as 81000 staroptions for only $37k. We would then be 3 star elite with 162000 options etc. they would also give 90000 starpoints and chance to buy more etc. It was not a hard sell, a very pleasant experience.

This is a very nice resort, and if you have children with you it's perfect. For cranky adults like us, feeling blah because the hurricane stole our trade winds, little things are annoying, e.g. Too many pool chairs jammed together, parking spaces too small, adult pool too small. Come to think of it, I guess that's about it.

We also attended a presentation at the new Hyatt. Very impressive project. Their 1 br was quoted at $40k and the 2br at $60k or 80k, I don't remember which, sorry to say. Their pastries were better than those at the Westin presentation, I do remember that!

Tomorrow we leave for Princeville. Dinner at Kimo's this week was a great one, as was the salad and flatbread at Flatbread in Paia, and lunch at Aloha mixed plate. If we lived on the west coast Hawaii would become an annual trip, but from Florida....

I think I need to join the list of how do I get in to WSJ?

 

[lizap]

Greg, the photos make the room look dated (relative to Westin's more modern look). Is it the photo?

No, actually my MOC 3BR has a much bigger kitchen than the kitchenette in Nanea. I agree that the original MOC tower only has kitchenettes, but the new towers have a full kitchen.

The combo of the limited kitchen, smaller living area, only 2 bathrooms, and higher MFs really decrease the attractiveness of Nanea versus Hyatt and MOC 3BR units.

Interesting. [this pic is of my exact unit: 6206/25 -- I love that place!]

Best,

Greg

 

[ValleyGirl]

I'm not sure if you are asking Ken to contact you, or if you are asking about Tapatalk, but yes you can send a PM with Tapatalk.



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PM thank you Denise


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[GregT]

Greg, the photos make the room look dated (relative to Westin's more modern look). Is it the photo?

The photo is from 2007 when the model opened, but the furnishings are still the same. There is definitely a difference in look and feel between Westin rooms and Marriott rooms, it's a personal preference on modern versus non-modern (?).

Best,

Greg

 

[lizap]

I like both Westin and Marriotts's furnishings- they are different, both both nice.

The photo is from 2007 when the model opened, but the furnishings are still the same. There is definitely a difference in look and feel between Westin rooms and Marriott rooms, it's a personal preference on modern versus non-modern (?).

Best,

Greg

 

[DavidnRobin]

We are at WKORVN now, on an II exchange, and attended the owners update/ Nanea presentation yesterday. They offered a 1 br resort view, plus requalify our SDO gold 2 br as 81000 staroptions for only $37k. We would then be 3 star elite with 162000 options etc. they would also give 90000 starpoints and chance to buy more etc. It was not a hard sell, a very pleasant experience.

This is a very nice resort, and if you have children with you it's perfect. For cranky adults like us, feeling blah because the hurricane stole our trade winds, little things are annoying, e.g. Too many pool chairs jammed together, parking spaces too small, adult pool too small. Come to think of it, I guess that's about it.

We also attended a presentation at the new Hyatt. Very impressive project. Their 1 br was quoted at $40k and the 2br at $60k or 80k, I don't remember which, sorry to say. Their pastries were better than those at the Westin presentation, I do remember that!

Tomorrow we leave for Princeville. Dinner at Kimo's this week was a great one, as was the salad and flatbread at Flatbread in Paia, and lunch at Aloha mixed plate. If we lived on the west coast Hawaii would become an annual trip, but from Florida....

I think I need to join the list of how do I get in to WSJ?

Perhaps I wrote a '37' instead of '31' during my presentation yesterday, but I have the 1Bd RV as $31K... If $37K, then I have the MFs wrong since I calculated them based on the 2Bd OF.

There is a WSJ list?

 

[LisaRex]

I like both Westin and Marriotts's furnishings- they are different, both both nice.

I agree. Westin's furnishing are nice, but generic and not made for comfort. Marriott's furnishing are more comfortable and homey.

 

[lizap]

This is probably very person-specific. We tend to like more modern, but I have to say in recent years, Westin's furnishings seem to have gotten cheaper looking, but maybe it's just me.

I agree. Westin's furnishing are nice, but generic and not made for comfort. Marriott's furnishing are more comfortable and homey.

 

[topdog]

Perhaps I wrote a '37' instead of '31' during my presentation yesterday, but I have the 1Bd RV as $31K... If $37K, then I have the MFs wrong since I calculated them based on the 2Bd OF.

There is a WSJ list?

I may have been wrong or they may have added a fee to requalify SDO gold plus, or they were sensing we wouldn't bite. I should start checking to see what WSJ rents for, as I know I won't get an exchange there via Interval. What phase or units would you recommend for a renter, I know you folks are very big fans there. I heard from an owner here that some of the units are in groups of four with a private pool. True? I will begin reading stickies and reviews of course, and can do a search of previous posts here.

 

[canesfan]

WSJ is a very personal preference. There are the hilltop villas that are away from the main resort that have their own pools. Then Bay Vista which are up on the hill. They are a hike but they have bigger kitchens and a larger floor plan. Coral Vista which are the new ones, those have the kitchenettes and smaller floor plans but closer to the pool/ beach area. It really is your preference. I prefer BV. We spend time at the main resort pool and the pool bar. We are social people. Others on here prefer Hilltops. CV is new.

 

[ValleyGirl]

Just finished our very long owners update! Will post a lot of info after we eat tonight.
Ended up selling back our 2BR fixed hammerhead 2nd floor corner unit for a 3BR fixed 4th floor corner unit in Bldg 1 looking to the South over open space.


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[DavidnRobin]

Just finished our very long owners update! Will post a lot of info after we eat tonight.
Ended up selling back our 2BR fixed hammerhead 2nd floor corner unit for a 3BR fixed 4th floor corner unit in Bldg 1 looking to the South over open space.


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Came by pool to say hello - meant 2 people with same name, same description. Sorry to have missed you.

Interesting purchase - too bad you didn't have the 1st floor corner - our villa for this week. Would have bought it from you, but sure they gave you better price as a trade-in.