[2014] Most plausible explanation of mystery of Malasyian Flight 370

[DaveNV]

Dave, this comment comes across a little derogatory towards Hawaiians, care to explain? I've never had a problem with locals in Hawaii, but I have experienced rude, boorish tourists.

Did the colonial Brits eradicate all the indigenous people of Mauritius?


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No, no, sorry! Not intended to be derogatory at all. What I was trying to say was if you picture geography that LOOKS like the Hawaiian Islands, but that was never populated by Polynesians, Mauritius resembles that. I don't know who the indigenous people of those islands were, but the present-day island is very British in its make up. At least, it is in the city of Port Louis.

These islands are East of Africa in the Indian Ocean. To my knowledge, Polynesians never went in that direction. https://www.google.com/maps/place/P...2!3m1!1s0x217c504941d601ef:0xfdc5186c91bdbb3d

Dave

 

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Malaysia Says Most of the Debris in Maldives Not From Plane - From Associated Press/ apnewsarchive.com

"KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Malaysia said Friday that most of the debris found in Maldives were not from a plane and were unrelated to the missing Malaysian jet..."

Richard

 

[Patri]

Oh, good grief. Is this going to become an Amelia Earhart type story, and we just never know? So sad.

 

[Passepartout]

Oh, good grief. Is this going to become an Amelia Earhart type story, and we just never know? So sad.

Major difference being that it's known where Amelia Earhart's plane went down (or relatively close), and frankly the Indian Ocean is just a huge area and no-one REALLY has any idea where the jet went down. The occasional bit of flotsam will continue to wash up on shores for decades with no clue where the currents have brought it from.

Could be the 'mystery of the century', or longer.

 

[Ironwood]

Investigators are now pursuing the possibility the plane was deliberately redirected off course with the intent to "use it for another purpose". But obviously something went wrong.

 

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Investigators are now pursuing the possibility the plane was deliberately redirected off course with the intent to "use it for another purpose". But obviously something went wrong.

Hi Ironwood,

Can you provide a link that discusses this information?

Richard

 

[Ironwood]

Richard....here's six far flung theories! I can't find the article I read a couple of days ago suggesting the pilot or someone, had hijacked the plane with the intent to land it somewhere and something obviously went wrong.

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...ziAvVuoJHzpIPKgZT7d12ng&bvm=bv.99804247,d.cWw

 

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France Unsure Plane Part Came From MH370, Source Says - By Margot Haddad and Ralph Ellis, CNN/ Europe/ cnn.com

"(CNN)Experts in France have not been able to determine with certainty whether a piece of airplane wing found July 29 on an Indian Ocean island belongs to MH370, the Malaysian airliner carrying 239 people that disappeared 2014, a French source close to the investigation told CNN on Saturday.

Judicial investigators know the part comes from a Boeing 777, but they say they still need to identify a number inside the wing part, called a flaperon, the source said...

..."We still need to identify a number that is inside the flaperon. It is a Spanish subcontracting company that owns that part. This company would be able to identify this number, but the staff is on vacation. We'll have to wait for next week to get their guidance.

"Judicial experts gave a preliminary report to the Paris prosecutor's in the meantime."..."

Richard

 

[taterhed]

A detailed analysis of Boeing’s entire 777 series history showed that the remains of two aircraft have not been accounted for. There are 30 Boeing 777 planes in storage around the world and six that were professionally scrapped by owners.

There are no details about how Egypt Air’s 777 was disposed of after it suffered a cockpit fire in Cairo four years ago. Likewise, the remains of Asiana Airlines 777 which caught fire at San Francisco Airport in 2013 also remains unknown. Egypt Air and Asiana Airlines did not respond to requests for comment.

 

["Roger"]

Analysis Confirms Plane Debris Came From Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

(Thought I would try to beat Rich to this one.)

 

[MULTIZ321]

Analysis Confirms Plane Debris Came From Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

(Thought I would try to beat Rich to this one.)

Congrats Roger. You sure did. Good catch.

Best regards,

Richard

 

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Missing Malaysia Plane MH370: What We Know - From BBC News/ World/ Asia/ bbc.com

"An aircraft wing part found on Reunion Island in July "with certainty" came from missing flight MH370, French officials have said.

In August Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said the wing part, known as a flaperon, was from the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777, which disappeared 18 months ago.

French investigators took a more cautious approach, but have now confirmed that one of three numbers found on the flaperon has been formally identified by a technician from Airbus Defense and Space (ADS-SAU) in Spain, which made the part for Boeing.

The aircraft, which had 239 people onboard, was en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on 8 March 2014 when air traffic control staff lost contact with it.

Despite an extensive search of the southern Indian Ocean, no trace of the aircraft had been found until the discovery of the barnacle-encrusted flaperon on Reunion, more than 3,700km (2,300 miles) away from the main search site..."

Richard

 

[visor]

"barnacle-encrusted flaperon"

That part is very interesting. Can a floating object over 6 months accumulate barnacle growth?

 

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MH370 search: Australia believes it is looking in the right place


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/03/mh370-australia-believes-searching-right-place


Richard

 

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MH370: Search Teams 'Looing in the Right Place', Studies Say





http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/asia/australia-mh370-search-zone/


Richard

 

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Flight MH370 Update: Air Safety Investigatorys Eliminate Rogue Pilot Theory After Malaysian Plane Debris Found - by Jess McHugh/ World/ International Business Times/ ibtimes.com

"Authorities involved in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 have mostly dismissed the theory its pilot went rogue and crashed the plane in the Indian Ocean, the Australian newspaper reported Sunday. The flight disappeared from radar en route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur in March 2014, and an international search team has been looking for evidence about what happened to it ever since.

“The limited evidence available for MH370 was compared with three accident classes: an in-flight upset, an unresponsive crew/hypoxia event, and a glide event [generally characterized by a pilot-controlled glide],” according to Dan O’Malley, an Australian Transport Safety Bureau representative cited by the Australian. The leading theory held by investigators is that a dip in oxygen in the cabin caused the crew to lose both consciousness and control of the plane in a so-called hypoxia event..."

French maritime authorities look at a map indicating measures being undertaken in the search for wreckage of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 while at the Saint-Marie marina in the French territory of Reunion Island in August 2015. Photo: AFP/Getty Images

I think the flaw with this theory is it does not account for the two Left Turns taken by MH370 while still in flight.


Richard

 

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Shipwreck From 1800's Found During Search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 - by Ben Brumfield/ CNN/ Asia/ edition.cnn.com

"(CNN)For nearly two years, boats dragging high-tech detection devices across the Indian Ocean have failed to solve the mystery of the whereabouts of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

But in December one boat raked up a different one -- a shipwreck some 200 years old at the bottom of the sea..."

Chinese Police at the Bejing Airport Stand Beside the Arrival Board Showing Delayed Flight 370 in Red on March 8, 2014.


Richard

 

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Doubt Over MH370 Link After Metal Wreckage Found on Thai Coast- by Oliver Holmes in Bangkok/ World/ The Guardian/ theguardian.com

"Large barnacle-covered wreckage prompts MH370 speculation although aerospace experts say it could belong to a discarded Japanese rocket.

A piece of curved metal measuring two metres by three metres and covered in barnacles that washed ashore in the Gulf of Thailand has promoted speculation that it might belong to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, although several experts swiftly threw doubt over the claims.

Local residents reported the item to authorities in Nakhon Si Thammarat province on Saturday, a district chief told Reuters.

“Villagers found the wreckage, measuring about two metres wide and three metres long,” Tanyapat Patthikongpan said.

Thai and international media suggested the wreckage might be part of MH370, which disappeared with 227 passengers and 12 crew on board in March 2014 during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Experts online commented that the chunk of metal was not immediately identifiable as a piece of Boeing 777-200ER, the type of passenger jet that went missing.

Aerospace and Boeing reporter for The Wall Street Journal Jon Ostrower said on Twitter the wreckage appeared to be Japanese H-IIA rocket, a liquid fuelled launch system used to transport satellites and space probes..."



Richard

 

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Thai, Malaysian Officials to Investigate Whether New Debris is From MH370 - by Brian Walker, Holly Yan, and Kocha Olarn/ Asia/ CNN/ cnn.com

"Bangkok, Thailand (CNN)Thai and Malaysian officials will investigate whether a large piece of curved metal found on the southern Thai coast could be from missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

But analysts are already at odds about whether the debris likely came from a plane.

The debris was found Friday by a fisherman on the coast of Nakhon Si Thammarat province, Malaysia's official Bernama news agency reported Sunday.

The Thai Civil Aviation Department will dispatch air accident investigators to the site Monday, Deputy Director General Umphawan Wannago told CNN. There, they will meet Malaysian aviation investigators, she said.

Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said it's too early to speculate whether the debris was from MH370 and urged media not to jump to conclusions, as it may worry or upset victims' families, Bernama reported..."

Richard

 

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MH370 Search Team Loses Sonar Detector Mapping Seabed - from BBC News/ Asia/ bbc.com

"The Australian team looking for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has lost the sonar detector they were using for their search.

On Sunday, the deep-water detector, or towfish, "collided with a mud volcano which rises 2,200 metres from the seafloor," an official statement said.

Both the device and 4,500 metres of snapped cable are now resting on the sea floor.

The search team believe they will be able to recover both at a later date..."

Much of the search is focussed on sonar mapping of the sea floor
Getty Images


Richard

 

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Sonar Vehicle Used in MH370 Search Lost After Crashing into Underwater Volcano - by Tim Hume and Elizabeth Joseph, CNN/ Asia/ cnn.com

"(CNN)A sonar vehicle used in the search for the wreckage of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has been lost after striking an underwater volcano in the southern Indian Ocean, according to search officials.

The vehicle -- called a towfish -- was being towed behind the Fugro Discovery, a specialist search vessel engaged in the hunt for the missing airliner, when it struck the 2,200-meter-high mud volcano Sunday, according to the Joint Agency Coordination Center, or JACC.

As a result, the towfish's cable broke, sending the vehicle and 4.5 kilometers (2.8 miles) of cable to the ocean floor.

The JACC, an Australian government agency created to coordinate search efforts for MH370, said that no crew members were injured.

It was believed the towfish, which scans the ocean floor, could be recovered, the JACC said in a statement..."

The Fugro Discovery, one of the specialist search vessels being used in the hunt for MH370.

Richard

 

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'High Possibility' Debris is From a Boeing 777, But No MH370 Link Yet - by Doug Staglin/ USA Today/ News/ usatoday.com

"Malaysia's transport minister said Wednesday there is a "high possibility" that a piece of debris found on a sandbar off Mozambique is from a Boeing 777 but more investigation is needed to determine whether it is from the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 that disappeared two years ago with 239 people aboard.

Minister Liow Tiong Lai said on Twitter that Malaysia is working with Australian counterparts to retrieve the debris.

"Based on early reports, high possibility debris found in Mozambique belongs to a B777," he tweeted. "I urged everyone to avoid undue speculation as we are not able to conclude that the debris belongs to #mh370 at this time."

Investigators in Malaysia, Australia and the U.S. have examined photographs of the debris, and say there is a good chance it came from a Boeing 777, according to NBC News.

NBC News quotes unidentified sources as saying the object has the words "NO STEP" on it and could be from a plane's horizontal stabilizer that is attached to the tail. An American who has been blogging about the search for the MH370 found the debris, according to NBC News..."

(Photo: Greg Wood, AFP/Getty Images)


Richard

 

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The Latest: Sand, Waves May Have Cleaned Possible Plane Part - From Associated Press/ apnewsarchive.com

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the investigation into debris found in Mozambique that may be from a Boeing 777, the same aircraft as missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (all times local):

3:30 p.m.

An oceanographer says there may be a reason why the debris found in Mozambique appears to be free of sea life — unlike the barnacle-encrusted wing part found on Reunion Island last year.

Charitha Pattiaratchi at the University of Western Australia said if the part was discovered on a sandbank as reported, the motion of the waves against the abrasive sand may have shaved off any sea life. If it had been found at sea, he says he would expect barnacles, "But if it's been on a beach, it's basically been sandblasted."

Also, the part appears to be flat and barnacles need something to grip. He noted the flaperon had barnacles only on the corners and the crevices.

Pattiaratchi has used computer modeling to predict a Flight 370 debris path, and in September he met American Blaine Gibson, who's been searching the region's beaches for the debris and wanted the oceanographer's opinion on where to look.

Pattiaratchi's models indicated Madagascar or Reunion Island, and possibly in the Mozambique channel. That's apparently where Gibson went, Pattiaratchi said..."

In this Feb. 28, 2016 image provided by Blaine Gibson and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), a piece of aircraft debris with the words "NO STEP" is photographed after it was found washed up on a beach in Mozambique. Debris that washed up in Mozambique has been tentatively identified as a part from the same type of aircraft as the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a U.S. official said. (Blaine Gibson/ATSB via AP)


Richard

 

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Australian Officials Say MH370 Debris Could Reach Mozambique - by Kristen Gelineau, Associated Press/ Reading Eagle/ readingeagle.com

"Debris that washed ashore in Mozambique that may be from missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 turned up in a spot that matches investigators' theories about where wreckage from the plane would have ended up, Australian officials said Thursday.

Photos of the debris discovered over the weekend appear to show the fixed leading edge of the right-hand tail section of a Boeing 777, said a U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly. Flight 370, which disappeared two years ago with 239 people aboard, is the only known missing 777..."

The Associated Press | In this Feb. 28, 2016 image provided by Blaine Gibson and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), a piece of aircraft debris with the words "NO STEP" is photographed after it was found washed up on a beach in Mozambique. Debris that washed up in Mozambique has been tentatively identified as a part from the same type of aircraft as the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a U.S. official said. (Blaine Gibson/ATSB via AP)


Richard

 

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Tourist Who Found Debris Was Searching for MH370 - by Juliet Perry, CNN/ Asia/ cnn.com

"(CNN)The man who found a piece of plane wreckage off the Mozambique coast has been traveling around the Indian Ocean for a year in a quest to solve the mystery of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

Blaine Gibson, a U.S. lawyer from Seattle, is spearheading a self-funded hunt for the missing plane in an exhaustive search that has taken him from the Maldives to Mauritius and Myanmar.

"I've been very involved in the search for Malaysia 370, just out of personal interest and in a private group -- not in a for-profit way or journalistic way," Gibson told CNN this week..."

Richard