[2014] Most plausible explanation of mystery of Malasyian Flight 370

[easyrider]

That's is just someone's distasteful prank. They enhanced a prank story that was published on March 18th: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/27839190/

Personally, I think it is of very bad taste and shows no respect for all those passengers who lost their lives by these idiots making up stories just to get attention, web hits, etc.

Anyone who knows anything about EXIF data (their main source of "proof") can easily see how stupid the story is.

Kurt

If the engineers hands were free it would be possible and kind of gross to pull his phone out of his butt.

Because he has an iphone 5 he could use voice commands to log in, send text and pictures or even call some one.

The efix data originally showed the location and has been altered but there are some that still have the original. So we will see.

My thought is there shouldn't be a free wi fi hot zone with no password available to anyone in a military base, especially a military prison. Maybe there is an ATT tower with 4g for the civillian workers and spouses, idk.

Bill

 

[ace2000]

Interesting article discussing the plane.


Six Possible Answers To Missing Plane Mystery

A panel of experts - including pilots, airline bosses, manufacturers and regulators - met in central London on Tuesday and tried to throw light on the mystery.

http://news.sky.com/story/1235459/six-possible-answers-to-missing-plane-mystery

 

["Roger"]

There are several early reports about a Chinese ship having picked up a signal of the right frequency to be the black box. Maybe ...

 

[Tia]

Just plain too fishy the whole deal imo

Interesting article discussing the plane.


Six Possible Answers To Missing Plane Mystery


http://news.sky.com/story/1235459/six-possible-answers-to-missing-plane-mystery

 

[Passepartout]

There are several early reports about a Chinese ship having picked up a signal of the right frequency to be the black box. Maybe ...

No link to the missing plane, and still, not the first piece of flotsam has been found. There are lots of people in denial, But those in the know are quietly saying that this may join Amelia Earhart in the annals of aviation mystery and never be found.

 

[easyrider]

I heard this morning on the news that a Chinese ship has heard the ping thing.

Bill

 

[MULTIZ321]

Banter Keeps Up Morale Among Flight 370 Searchers - by Nick Perry/ The Associated Press/ pulse.me

...The air force crew members, who fly a P-3 Orion turboprop, have been searching for over a week now as part of an international effort to unravel the mystery of the Malaysia Airlines plane that vanished four weeks ago. Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Thursday described it as the most difficult search operation ever.

The 12 New Zealanders have the discipline and teamwork that comes with military life, not to mention a slogan: "Ready, resilient, respected." But they also have a kind of folksiness borne of being a small squadron in a tiny air force.

They've developed a reputation around Pearce, the base near Perth where the search planes fly from, as being fun, relaxed and responsible for serving up terrific inflight food. That includes freshly roasted meat and sandwiches they toast in two frying pans.

The Orion is nearly 50 years old, although it has been updated many times. Still, it's nothing like a passenger plane and is filled with rattles and a constant noise that make the headsets necessary..."

Kudos to all the searchers enduring all the hardships and frustrations of trying to locate MH370.


Richard

 

[Pat H]

I just heard that new radar analysis shows that the plane flew around Malaysia instead of over it probably to avoid radar detection. In that case the plane would have used up fuel sooner than thought. The mystery gets stranger by the day.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Ocean Shield, the Ship That Saved the Search for MH370 - by Clive Irving/ TheDailyBeast.com

"In 24 hours, the search area went from 18,000 square miles to 36 square miles all thanks to one piece of Aussie equipment."

The International team is doing amazing work,.

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2014/04
/11/ocean-shield-the-ship-that-saved-the-search-for-mh370/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/1397246354178.cached.jpg
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Richard

 

[Passepartout]

I find it curious that to date, and notwithstanding the search area has shrunken so much, not a single piece of floating anything has turned up that is attributable to MH370. The pings have been silent for over a day. Authorities have questioned that the pings were from some leftover oceanographic equipment.

It appears, we are no closer to finding the wreckage than a month ago. Talking to some aviation company friends, there is speculation that even IF the wreckage is found, and IF the recorders on board can be retrieved, the odds are that they will not provide any answers. 2 hours of silence from the cockpit voice recorder, and a final flight of 'normal auto-pilot' controls on the data recorder from the time it was set until fuel exhaustion. Even if found, there is nothing either recorder could contain that would prevent a recurrence of whatever happened. What we know now: A perfectly good airplane flew off course until running out of fuel.

A great mystery that may well never be solved, and hundreds of millions spent on it.

Jim

 

[csxjohn]

... hundreds of millions spent on it.

Jim

That's the part that amazes me. Countries around the world can find resources to fund a search like this when everyone claims that they are all broke.

 

[tompalm]

That's the part that amazes me. Countries around the world can find resources to fund a search like this when everyone claims that they are all broke.

This is a military op. The men get paid the same if they are searching for MH370 or out flying a training mission. They are using forward deployed forces that are already out in the Indian Ocean or western pacific. They are using more fuel and maybe flying more hours, but at the end of the year, it will balance out. So, the cost is about the same.

I spent 20 years doing this and flying P-3s. Most of the time fighting the cold war, but whenever a search and rescue came up, we were called out and forgot about the soviets. All my deployments were to the IO flying around the east coast of Africa, Australia or south of India. Also, a lot of time spent in the south China Sea.

 

[SMHarman]

This is a military op. The men get paid the same if they are searching for MH370 or out flying a training mission. They are using forward deployed forces that are already out in the Indian Ocean or western pacific. They are using more fuel and maybe flying more hours, but at the end of the year, it will balance out. So, the cost is about the same.

I spent 20 years doing this and flying P-3s. Most of the time fighting the cold war, but whenever a search and rescue came up, we were called out and forgot about the soviets. All my deployments were to the IO flying around the east coast of Africa, Australia or south of India. Also, a lot of time spent in the south China Sea.

They are using more fuel, but those pilots all need to keep their hours up so they are doing it for a purpose not just buzzing around the sky.

 

[MULTIZ321]

China's Efforts in Hunt for Plane are Seen as Hurting More Than Helping - by Kirk Semple and Eric Schmitt/ Asia Pacific/ World/ The New York Times.com

"KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — When a Chinese government vessel took the world by surprise this month when it announced that it had detected underwater signals that might have come from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, China suddenly looked like the hero of the multinational search effort.

Within days, however, the Chinese claims were discounted, and attention shifted to another set of signals recorded by American personnel aboard an Australian ship hundreds of miles away.

Still, the Chinese claims have left some officials from the United States and other participating countries quietly seething. The announcement was only one in a series of moves by China that might have been intended to project competence, according to officials and analysts, but only served to distract and delay the search effort..."

Chinese claims that its Haixun 01 vessel had twice detected underwater signals, perhaps from the missing plane, were discounted. Credit Pool photo by Greg Wood

I don't think the Malaysian government has been very forthcoming either.
Apparently, they just released some news today that the co-pilots cell phone was on and was detected by a cell-phone tower on the Malaysian coast at a time after the responder equipment had been turned off. Just another clue to the puzzle that is very difficult to interpret.


Richard

 

[Rose Pink]

I don't think the Malaysian government has been very forthcoming either.
Apparently, they just released some news today that the co-pilots cell phone was on and was detected by a cell-phone tower on the Malaysian coast at a time after the responder equipment had been turned off. Just another clue to the puzzle that is very difficult to interpret.


Richard

Is it possible the cell phone was on but not being actively used to talk? My technology ignorance is showing again, I know.

 

[Passepartout]

The Malaysian government also said 3-4 days ago that they were still holding out hope for survivors! Talk about unbridled optimism. Or delusion. I vote the latter.

 

[Rose Pink]

The Malaysian government also said 3-4 days ago that they were still holding out hope for survivors! Talk about unbridled optimism. Or delusion. I vote the latter.

How could anyone survive that long without fresh water? The only way I can see for survivors is if the plane landed or crashed in a remote area or if they truly were hijacked to who-knows-where. I think we'd have heard something by now such as ransom requests if that were the case.

 

[Passepartout]

Australian authorities who had been planning to use a robotic submersible to map the ocean floor and perhaps locate the missing jet brought it back to the surface. They say the ocean is just too deep in the search area for it to operate.

Here's my totally unfounded opinion. This missing jet and the mystery surrounding it's disappearance will never be found.

Someday, somewhere, something will wash up on some shore or be tangled in a fisherman's net, but that will only serve to rejuvenate the mystery.

 

[Blues]

I'm an engineer at an oceanographic research institute. While I haven't designed AUVs, I have designed ROVs; and members of our engineering department were critically involved in the design of the Bluefin AUV that's currently deployed on the search. And I've been involved in a few underwater searches myself. Here are my opinions on what needs to happen.

First, they need to use shipboard side-scan sonar to do a rough map of the ocean floor. While shipboard sonar can't paint a detailed enough map to find the wreckage, what it can do is map much wider areas of the ocean bottom much quicker than the AUV. The resulting map can give them a clearer understanding of the ocean depths they're dealing with. They can then use that knowledge to better plan the AUV operations, rather than randomly hitting a depth abort. And they just might get lucky enough to see something anomalous in the low-res sidescan image.

With that knowledge, I'd then reprogram the Bluefin to selectively violate its depth envelope. That system should have a 20% safety factor in its design depth. While one normally doesn't want to use that safety factor, doing so selectively may significantly speed the process.

Finally, all the news reports about how long such a search will take are true. Frankly, I'm surprised they're only projecting some number of weeks. They must have the area pretty well narrowed down to be able to search in that amount of time.

-Bob

 

[pedro47]

This plane will never be found.

 

[Patri]

This plane will never be found.

Sadly, I'm starting to believe you are right.

 

[easyrider]

Looks like they found 370

Fox news has reported that flight 370 has been found.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/09/flight-370-effort-could-soon-shift-from-search-to-recovery/

The team of international investigators hunting for Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 has "unquestionably" located the missing jetliner and could soon have high resolution images of the wreck site, an expert in deep sea recoveries of ships and planes told FoxNews.com.

Bill

 

[ace2000]

Fox news has reported that flight 370 has been found.

Wait a minute. That story is a week old. I hope the expert is right though.

 

[Blues]

Fox news has reported that flight 370 has been found.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/09/flight-370-effort-could-soon-shift-from-search-to-recovery/

The team of international investigators hunting for Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 has "unquestionably" located the missing jetliner and could soon have high resolution images of the wreck site, an expert in deep sea recoveries of ships and planes told FoxNews.com.

That Fox News article is dated April 9 - one week ago. Funny, I haven't heard about any recovery of wreckage yet

-Bob
ETA - Ace, it appears we're right there at the same time again. Great minds.

 

[Passepartout]

Wait a minute. That story is a week old. I hope you're right though.

I'll believe it when I see it. Color me skeptical. Still.