[2014] Most plausible explanation of mystery of Malasyian Flight 370

["Roger"]

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Most people didn't think an airplane could be used to bring down the Twin Towers until they did.

Theoretically, the ability to hack into an aviation system exists. This is interesting to me anyway and contrary to what most people think. I believe the talent is out there to hack this.

http://treeatwork.blogspot.com/2014/03/on-hacking-777-myanmar-airspace-and.html

Bill

There is a huge difference between

"Most people didn't think an airplane could be used to bring down the Twin Towers."​

and

Most people never considered the possibility that an airplane might be used to bring down the Twin Towers.​

The second statement is true, the first is not.

As far as the linked article goes, I have seen others cite the possibility that the plane's computer system might be hacked. I won't rule that out, but it is not that easy to align that possibility with some of the happenings.

Not referring specifically to the poster, I have noticed a tendency during this whole affair for people (properly) to treat official pronouncements with a degree of skepticism, but use a completely different standard when confronted with an alternative explanation. The degree of skeptical inquiry goes down enormously.

Going back to the alternative explanation in the linked thread, one thing that the article simply blows off is the possibility that the satellite pings could be used to trace the path of the plane. That turned out to be wrong. Thus, if the system was hacked (lots of questions would need to be answered before I buy into that), the intended purpose would appear to have been (a.) doing it just for the sake of doing it (a feather in the hacker's cap), or, (b.) the intended destruction of this specific plane (and not its capture for later use).

As far as the supposed capture of the plane, one question that you might ask yourself is, if it was hacked so it could be used for future destruction, why bother? If planes can be hacked successfully, it would be simpler and less open to premature exposure to just hack a plane near the intended target and ram it into whatever. Escaping radar detection, finding a landing strip X with the proper facilities, hiding the landing strip and the hanger from satellite view, etc. might make a good James Bond plot, but it definitely is not the easiest nor most likely scenario for hacking the controls of a plane and using it as a weapon.

 

[ace2000]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/air-accidents/news/article.cfm?c_id=665&objectid=11226334

Quote from the same source...

The captain of Flight 370 was in no state of mind to fly the day it disappeared and could have taken the Boeing 777 for a "last joyride" before crashing into the Indian Ocean, a fellow pilot says.

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's world was crumbling, said the long-time associate. He had been facing serious family problems, including separation from his wife and relationship problems with another woman he was seeing.

The man, who spoke to the Herald on condition of anonymity, said Captain Zaharie was "terribly upset" when his wife told him she was leaving and believed he may have decided to take the Malaysia Airlines plane to a part of the world he had never flown in.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/air-accidents/news/article.cfm?c_id=665&objectid=11226334

 

[Beefnot]

There is a huge difference between

"Most people didn't think an airplane could be used to bring down the Twin Towers."​

and

Most people never considered the possibility that an airplane might be used to bring down the Twin Towers.​

Agree that the statements have different meanings, but I would argue that they are both true.

Quote from the same source...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/air-accidents/news/article.cfm?c_id=665&objectid=11226334

Interesting....
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[ace2000]

Interesting....
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Been saying it for over a week now (post #4). You can either speculate that the airliner was downed by a "freak" fire that has never happened in the history of industry or you can focus on the pilot.

Also, there are some news reports that mention that he attended a famous trial of an opposition leader the day of the night flight (see post #4). When do we see that story spread across the mainstream news?

 

[Beefnot]

Been saying it for over a week now (post #4). You can either speculate that the airliner was downed by a "freak" fire that has never happened in the history of industry or you can focus on the pilot.

Also, there are some news reports that mention that he attended a famous trial of an opposition leader the day of the night flight (see post #4). When do we see that story spread across the mainstream news?

I hear you, but if you want to see some freak mechanical things you would never ever have considered, watch some old "Air Emergency" episodes. True real life crazy stuff that happened in the air. That made me a believer that any freak anything is possible.

 

[ace2000]

That made me a believer that any freak anything is possible.

Everything's possible. Which is the most plausible?

The OP started with the Goodfellow theory and I quickly responded to look at the pilot's actions.

 

[MULTIZ321]

French Satellite Images Show 122 'New Objects' Possibly Linked. To MH370http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/03/french-satellite-images-show-122-new-objects-possibly-linked-to-mh370/359605/ from The Atlantic Wire.



Richard

 

[easyrider]

After reading the title of this thread I noticed Im posting the " least plausible" explanations in a "most plausible" explanations thread. My bad. Posters going off subject in a different direction has often made me wonder what their dealio is. whoopsie

Off subject a bit once again is that this can't be good for any small country airlines. Im thinking I wouldn't ever fly Malaysia Air. Because of the value of tourism in these small countries to their economies it would be better for them to blame a mechanical failure than have evidence of an unstable pilot or to admit terrorism. I bet they are hoping for no recovery of the black boxes that can prove otherwise.

The regional tourism may be one of the casualties of this event. imo

Bill

 

[CarolF]

Off subject a bit once again is that this can't be good for any small country airlines. Im thinking I wouldn't ever fly Malaysia Air. Because of the value of tourism in these small countries to their economies it would be better for them to blame a mechanical failure than have evidence of an unstable pilot or to admit terrorism. I bet they are hoping for no recovery of the black boxes that can prove otherwise.

The regional tourism may be one of the casualties of this event. imo

Bill

Malaysian Airlines is one of the few airlines to achieve 5 stars with Skytrax. They have had an excellent reputation for more years than I can remember.

http://www.airlinequality.com/Airlines/MH.htm

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/t...-world-2013-4?op=1#2-malaysia-airlines-tie-19

To admit suicide by an "unstable" pilot would be an enormous loss of face for the Malaysian government. It doesn't get any worse than that.

 

[ace2000]

Well, I'll be. Guess what the mainstream news says is "most" plausible now...


Malaysia jet disappearance no accident, investigator says

The pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet is believed to be solely responsible for the flight being taken hundreds of miles off course and there is no evidence of a mechanical failure or hijacking by a passenger, according to an law enforcement official involved in the investigation.

A high-ranking officer attached to a special investigative branch of the Malaysia police force in Kuala Lumpur told USA TODAY on Wednesday that investigators are pressing relatives of the pilot, Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, for information on his behavior leading up to the March 8 flight.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/26/malaysia-missing-plane/6907359/

 

[pedro47]

Where is the true evidence that this is the plane?

 

[Clemson Fan]

Well, I'll be. Guess what the mainstream news says is "most" plausible now...


Malaysia jet disappearance no accident, investigator says


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/26/malaysia-missing-plane/6907359/

It may very well be the pilot. I'll agree it's looking that way. However, let's be very careful about how much credence we give to an "anonymous" source.

 

[Clemson Fan]

Where is the true evidence that this is the plane?

It's on the moon with the remanats of the lunar modules.

 

[ace2000]

Where is the true evidence that this is the plane?

Haven't you been reading the news? They keep finding the plane. The only problem is they can't find the plane.

 

[csxjohn]

Maybe the US Navy has it.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1753.htm

Or maybe it was a deliberate murder.

From an email going around.

Here's what you all need to know. Spread this information everywhere:

Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office

4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.

Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders:

Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)

If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will.

If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.

That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor?

Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone (what an interesting name for a company) who owns Freescale.

Here is your motive for the missing plane. As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane, and that patent was the breakthrough. We have entered the future proper, and four men was just murdered so that the last, still living member can keep this for himself to either hide or profit from.

But Snopes says it's not in the Burmuda Triangle as had been "reported" on FaceBook.

http://www.snopes.com/computer/facebook/malaysia.asp

 

[Beefnot]

Now that's what I'm talking about. I loves me a good conspiracy. If it's true, I hope some enterprising investigative reporting chases this down. Before his or her untimely demise...

 

[Phydeaux]

The satellite debris 'confirmation' was made how many days ago?

How many more days will it take ships to reach the debris site? Are these slow boats?

 

[SMHarman]

Well, I'll be. Guess what the mainstream news says is "most" plausible now...

Malaysia jet disappearance no accident, investigator says

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/26/malaysia-missing-plane/6907359/

So the conspiracy theorists will have a field day, just like silk air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185
Was it some catastrophic failure of the rudder or was it suicide?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues

Was it catastrophic failure on the 777 of the life systems, a fire, or was it suicide?

 

[MULTIZ321]

New MH370 Puzzle Scrambles Search - by Clive Irving/ The Hunt for Flight 370/ The DailyBeast.com

The search zone for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight was shifted by almost 700 miles when it emerged that the the plane was flying much faster than previously thought.

The change in the search target zone for Flight MH370 seems to reveal how much can be calculated about the Boeing 777’s last hours in the air with very little information.

In order to fix the airplane’s position three things are essential: its direction, height and speed.The first information acted upon in directing the search was the most crucial: direction. This came from pings received by the London-based Inmarsat satellite operator. It was the thinnest of clues, based on hourly signals showing that the 777 was still “alive.”

Using previously untried technology, the experts looking at the Inmarsat data were able slowly to refine the airplane’s course, beginning with a huge arc extending north of the Himalayas into Asia down to the remote southern Indian Ocean, and then settling on a smaller area, about the size of Alaska, to the southwest of Australia.

But the Inmarsat information was unable to indicate either the altitude or the speed of the airplane. What is striking about the new calculations is that they are projecting a higher speed and, therefore, a higher consumption of fuel which, in turn, means the jet ran out of fuel sooner and did not end up in the fearsome “roaring forties” of the southern Indian Ocean.

However, this issue of speed introduces a new puzzle..."

Paul Kane/AFP/Getty


Richard

 

[MULTIZ321]

How Satellites Tracked Down Flight MH370 - But Why We Still Can't Find the Plane (Updated) - by Sebastian Anthony/ Electronics/ ExtremeTech.com

Inmarsat’s global coverage. The satellite that tracked flight MH370 is shown in purple.


Richard

 

[MULTIZ321]

Airline 'Black Boxes' Are Drowning in Red Tape - by Vlad Savov/ Policy & Law/ U.S. & World/ TheVerge.com

Tied up in bureaucracy and cost concerns, the flight recorder is growing ever more archaic

Richard

 

[Karen G]

I haven't read all the posts in this thread so if this has been covered, I apologize. But, here's a story I haven't heard before.

 

[Tia]

Who would of thought in today's World it might be cost concerns

Airline 'Black Boxes' Are Drowning in Red Tape - by Vlad Savov/ Policy & Law/ U.S. & World/ TheVerge.com

Tied up in bureaucracy and cost concerns, the flight recorder is growing ever more archaic

Richard

 

[ace2000]

The satellite debris 'confirmation' was made how many days ago?

How many more days will it take ships to reach the debris site? Are these slow boats?

Really slow boats....

 

[PigsDad]

I haven't read all the posts in this thread so if this has been covered, I apologize. But, here's a story I haven't heard before.

That's is just someone's distasteful prank. They enhanced a prank story that was published on March 18th: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/27839190/

Personally, I think it is of very bad taste and shows no respect for all those passengers who lost their lives by these idiots making up stories just to get attention, web hits, etc.

Anyone who knows anything about EXIF data (their main source of "proof") can easily see how stupid the story is.

Kurt