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[ 2014 ] Cancelling a Westgate Timeshare [merged]

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It’s done? I received my deposit the other day but that’s it? No confrontation of the cancellation of the contract?
That's correct. You're done. There is no confrontation because you are no longer dealing with the sales dept. The sales people are the ones who would confront you and try to talk you out of your rescission.

Once you rescind, you are dealing with the member services dept. or whatever they might be called. It's all business in that dept. They are required to follow the law and once the contract is rescinded the parties (you and the developer/resort) are put back to the place before there was ever a contract. It's as if there never was a sale or a contract. You have your money back. They have no sale.

Don't worry. Be happy!:)
 

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We are told that the contract and rescission instructions are in a hidden velcro secured flap inside one of the covers of the binder. The 'wait for the DC' business is a delaying tactic to get you to delay past the legally allowable rescission period. IMO, nothing in that binder is worth $50. Send it back.

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I know this post is from 2014, but do you know what exactly the instructions were in the hidden pocket? I didn’t see this and already mailed back the binder. Attached is what was on my contract. I just want to make sure I wasn’t supposed to include something that I didn’t in the letter I sent because I didn’t see these hidden instructions. Like some kind of phrase or information. I have our names and we signed it, the date we signed, contract number, message stating we want to cancel, our address and email. Sent certified mail with return receipt.
 

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I know this post is from 2014, but do you know what exactly the instructions were in the hidden pocket? I didn’t see this and already mailed back the binder. Attached is what was on my contract. I just want to make sure I wasn’t supposed to include something that I didn’t in the letter I sent because I didn’t see these hidden instructions. Like some kind of phrase or information. I have our names and we signed it, the date we signed, contract number, message stating we want to cancel, our address and email. Sent certified mail with return receipt.
Relax! You have done all that is necessary to rescind. There is no secret code, No legalese required. Really starting the rescission brocess is as easy as saying "I Want OUT OF THIS CONTRACT #", and sign it.

You're done. You won. Go celebrate. Stay off the phone with them or unknown numbers. Watch your credit card account for a refund, and then you'll know for sure.

Jim
 

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We are debating whether to:
1) not play Westgate’s game and ignore Westgate on what is likely (95%) an unenforceable, rescinded contact,
2) play their game, increase legality of rescission and unenforceability to 99+ percent, and threaten to report them to AG.

It’s a tough call.
How is it only 95% successful? Don't they have to cancel if you send in a letter? Isn't it the law?
 

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How is it only 95% successful? Don't they have to cancel if you send in a letter? Isn't it the law?
There are no 100 percent guarantees in law that something is definitively illegal, or that someone would win in a court of law. We can only estimate. I didn’t have all the facts. I didn’t have the Wastegate recording, which could have been manipulated. Ultimately, OP could his money back, and the Ts was cancelled.

Heck, Supreme Court cases are often 5-4. A lot of people thought OJ, Casey Anthony, or George Zimmerman should be found guilty, but they weren’t. Illegality involves proof after complete investigations.
 

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I know I’m not supposed to call, but I called the actual office number for the 2801 winter garden road address. I asked if they got my cancellation letter and they said yes and that the cancellation is being processed and I should receive a refund in 21 days. So hopefully they are being truthful.
 

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I know I’m not supposed to call, but I called the actual office number for the 2801 winter garden road address. I asked if they got my cancellation letter and they said yes and that the cancellation is being processed and I should receive a refund in 21 days. So hopefully they are being truthful.
They don't have a choice. Wastegate may be sleazy and take ANY advantage they can, but even they have to obey the law. You'll get your refund. Now STAY OFF THE PHONE!
 

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I know I’m not supposed to call, but I called the actual office number for the 2801 winter garden road address. I asked if they got my cancellation letter and they said yes and that the cancellation is being processed and I should receive a refund in 21 days. So hopefully they are being truthful.
Don't call. We got a report of a rescinded Westgate owner who called, and then Westgate tried to make it seem like he accepted a revised offer over the phone. You don't want to deal with that. That thread is here: https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/2014-cancelling-a-westgate-timeshare-merged.208087/page-15#post-2309794
 

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I know I’m not supposed to call, but I called the actual office number for the 2801 winter garden road address. I asked if they got my cancellation letter and they said yes and that the cancellation is being processed and I should receive a refund in 21 days. So hopefully they are being truthful.


Didn't you mail this via CERTIFIED MAIL? I ask because certified mail provides anyone with a FREE USPS Tracking Number, and the tracking number actually proves that the Rescission Letter was delivered (as required by law).

As others have said, calling is not a good thing as it may lead to someone trying to talk you out of rescinding (or even talking to you about the same deal at a much lower price).

For the benefit of everyone; Certified Tracking numbers can be easily tracked via the USPS Website. Here is their website:


www.USPS.gov




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Didn't you mail this via CERTIFIED MAIL? I ask because certified mail provides anyone with a FREE USPS Tracking Number, and the tracking number actually proves that the Rescission Letter was delivered (as required by law).

As others have said, calling is not a good thing as it may lead to someone trying to talk you out of rescinding (or even talking to you about the same deal at a much lower price).

For the benefit of everyone; Certified Tracking numbers can be easily tracked via the USPS Website. Here is their website:


www.USPS.gov




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I did send certified mail with receipt. They didn’t try to talk me into anything, these weren’t sales people. Just the people that do the cancellations.
 

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I see lots of people got out of westgate by rescinding anyone have any luck after the 10 day time period? Any canadians that have just stopped paying MF? Did it get reported to credit Bureau?
 

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I see lots of people got out of westgate by rescinding anyone have any luck after the 10 day time period? Any canadians that have just stopped paying MF? Did it get reported to credit Bureau?
@Grammarhero has some numbers on people who have defaulted. iirc Canadians have not reported having their credit affected by default/foreclosure. Obviously you lose everything you've paid- which you would have gotten back with a timely rescission. Your mileage may vary.

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I literally just got off the phone with Westgate. I called the legacy number 1 800 351 0461. My 2 bedroom plus loft gone for less then my bi annual maintenance fees paperwork is in the mail. My TS was paid in full 6 years ago had for 7 in Jan. Thanks TUG for not letting me pay a resale company. I was close to doing that.
 

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I see lots of people got out of westgate by rescinding anyone have any luck after the 10 day time period? Any canadians that have just stopped paying MF? Did it get reported to credit Bureau?
Thanks @Passepartout, my TUG mentor. @kegger that is a good result.
 

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That's correct. You're done. There is no confrontation because you are no longer dealing with the sales dept. The sales people are the ones who would confront you and try to talk you out of your rescission.

Once you rescind, you are dealing with the member services dept. or whatever they might be called. It's all business in that dept. They are required to follow the law and once the contract is rescinded the parties (you and the developer/resort) are put back to the place before there was ever a contract. It's as if there never was a sale or a contract. You have your money back. They have no sale.

Don't worry. Be happy!:)
Hello really appreciate this site as its about to save my family from this bad deal!
Just have some questions I see about the letter sending to 2801 winter garden road, Do I send the binder and tablet to the same address or do I send it back to the location we received the tablet. We signed and got our tablet at westgate lakes orlando, But our purchased unit was in westgate bluetree.
The other question I have is about the contract number, I dont see it on the first page of the contract but I do see a number on the page that says receipt for timeshare documents. That number is 14 digits like described in forum, 1479085****-014. Do you think that is the number? thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Send the tablet back by separate mail by the cheapest traceable method . You can mention in your letter that you are returning it by separate cover. I’d send it to the same address as you send the letter.

As far as the contract number, I don’t think it’s crucial as long as all parties who signed the contract sign the rescission letter. You could include a copy of the first page of the contract or any page that shows your names.

The most important thing about the whole process is that you get that letter mailed within the rescission time limit, you send it by certified mail, and you keep a copy of your letter & your certified mail receipt.

Then patiently wait for your money to be returned. It might take 45 days but probably will be sooner.
 

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Hello really appreciate this site as its about to save my family from this bad deal!
Just have some questions I see about the letter sending to 2801 winter garden road, Do I send the binder and tablet to the same address or do I send it back to the location we received the tablet. We signed and got our tablet at westgate lakes orlando, But our purchased unit was in westgate bluetree.
The other question I have is about the contract number, I dont see it on the first page of the contract but I do see a number on the page that says receipt for timeshare documents. That number is 14 digits like described in forum, 1479085****-014. Do you think that is the number? thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That looks like the 14 digit number. Be sure to include that number just in case.
Mind sharing how much you’d save with rescission?
 
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