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[2013] Bitcoin May Be the Global Economy's Last Safe Haven

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This is like saying a bank had a computer problem. Keep it in perspective. It's not bitcoin itself that has this problem, from what I read, but rather one exchange (which has been plagued with issues for almost a year and is no surprise to anyone following bitcoin).


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Banks are regulated by the OCC and insured by FDIC. If they have a "computer problem", you can still get your money. Apparently, if you had an account with Mt Gox, you are currently hosed. ;)

If you like Bitcoin, fine. I'll pass.

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Bitstamp Halts Withdrawals Amid Targeted Attack - by Russell Brandom/ Business/ The Verge.com

"The Bitcoin exchange Bitstamp has announced it is suspending withdrawals as a result of the same transaction malleability bug that triggered a freeze at the M. Gox exchange earlier this week.."


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Banks are regulated by the OCC and insured by FDIC. If they have a "computer problem", you can still get your money. Apparently, if you had an account with Mt Gox, you are currently hosed. ;)

If you like Bitcoin, fine. I'll pass.

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For those who have been following Bitcoin, it will be no surprise to discover flaws with the Mt Gox exchange. I don't know anyone who uses it. That said, I'm not sure if any of the other exchanges are going to last the trial of time, and if these currencies become established I'm fairly sure a more established company (ie. bank) will become more involved.

As for governmental regulation...well, anyone who obtains these coins knows that there is no regulation whatsoever. If that stops you from investigating further, I completely understand. But, that shouldn't stop others from speculative investments.

Full disclosure: I don't have any Bitcoins. I do have other coins, and so far I'm approaching this as a hobby that generates a bit of money. I find it interesting in itself, and even more interesting watching the reaction of others once they understand a little about a computer generated currency.
 

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Bitcoin Hit By 'Massive' DDoS Attack As Tensions Rise

http://www.forbes.com/sites/leoking/2014/02/12/bitcoin-hit-by-massive-ddos-attack-as-tensions-rise/

A “massive” distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack is hitting Bitcoin, according to trading venues, in what has been a tense week over alleged flaws in the various systems run by the virtual currency and its exchanges.

The attack picks on the very area – transaction malleability, or the potential renaming of transaction messages – that has become a bone of contention between different venues, and is blocking some transactions from being confirmed. The source of and reason for the attack have not been disclosed.

“This is a denial-of-service attack; whoever is doing this is not stealing coins, but is succeeding in preventing some transactions from confirming,” he added. “It’s important to note that DoS attacks do not affect people’s bitcoin wallets or funds.”
 

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Drug Site Silk Road Wiped Out by Bitcoin Glitch - by Jose Pagliery/ Tech/ CNNMoney/cnn.com

"The revived online black market Silk Road says hackers took advantage of an ongoing Bitcoin glitch to steal $2.7 million from its customers..."


Bitcoin: It's the Platform, Not the Currency, Stupid! - By Sander Duivestein and Patrick Savalle/ TheNextWeb.com

"Bitcoin is big news again. The digital cryptocurrency is on the frontpage of every major newspaper. This week its price collapsed because the largest exchange on the network did not handle a known design flaw in bitcoin properly, which caused widespread disruption and possibly some loss of bitcoin. As a precaution, several exchanges had to close their virtual doors till further notice.

Economists have warned of the above scenario several times. No central authority backs this virtual currency. Investing in bitcoin is equivalent to pure speculation. It’s the new Tulip-mania. Money can therefore disappear like snow in the sun. In addition, the currency is discovered by the criminal world and it is used widely to money laundering. Bitcoin is purely “evil“, as Paul Krugman, a Nobel Prize-winning economist, recently proclaimed.

But there is more to the story than the economists tell..."

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Bitstamp Restores Service After Targeted Attack - by Casey Newton/ US & World/ TheVerge.com

"Bitstamp restored service to its Bitcoin exchange this morning, four days after suspending withdrawals in the wake of an attack on its network that raised new concerns about the security of digital currency exchanges. "After rigorous testing, we have restored fully automated processing for Bitcoin withdrawals," the exchange said, according to the Wall Street Journal. Meanwhile, Mt. Gox said it has suspended deposits while it investigated a denial-of-service attack on Bitcoin's core infrastructure..."


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If Paul Krugman is against Bitcoin, it must be good. :hysterical:

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Winklevoss Brothers Offer an Index to Track Price of Bitcoin - by Nathaniel Popper/ Financial Services/ DealBook/ The New York Times.com

"Stock traders have the Standard & Poor’s 500. Bitcoin bettors will have the Winkdex.

The new financial index takes its name from the Winklevoss brothers, famous for their legal battle with the Facebook founder, Mark Zuckerberg. The Winkdex was released publicly on Wednesday and provides a regularly updated figure for the price of Bitcoin, the virtual currency that has risen in popularity over the last year.

Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss announced the creation of the Winkdex in a regulatory filing they made on Wednesday to the Securities and Exchange Commission in connection with the Bitcoin exchange-traded fund they first applied to create last summer.

The new filing shows that the Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust is moving closer to regulatory approval despite skepticism in some investor circles. The brothers are now hoping to start the fund later this year, making it the first Bitcoin E.T.F..."


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First US Bitcoin Vending Machine Opens in an Albuquerque Cigar Bar - by Rich McCormick/ US & World/ The Verge.com

"The first publicly-accessible Bitcoin vending machine in the United States has arrived in an "upscale cigar bar" in Albuquerque. Users of the Bitcoin machine that opened today in the New Mexico city can insert money, scan the QR code for their Bitcoin wallet, and have their funds transferred from dollars to the unregulated currency in a few seconds..."

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First US Bitcoin Vending Machine Opens in an Albuquerque Cigar Bar - by Rich McCormick/ US & World/ The Verge.com

"The first publicly-accessible Bitcoin vending machine in the United States has arrived in an "upscale cigar bar" in Albuquerque. Users of the Bitcoin machine that opened today in the New Mexico city can insert money, scan the QR code for their Bitcoin wallet, and have their funds transferred from dollars to the unregulated currency in a few seconds..."

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Sounds a lot like a slot machine. :D

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Bitcoin's Value Falls 10% As Faltering Mt. Gox Exchange Continues to Implode - by Alex Wilhelm/ TechCrunch.com

"Mt.Gox promised to get its house in order, and get back to the Bitcoin community and its users today. It did, but didn’t open up withdrawals, or set a firm timetable as to when users might be able to get their currency off the exchange.

In response, the price of Bitcoin on Mt.Gox has cratered, again. It now rests just above $110. That’s down from around $260 the day before. Users are betting more heavily now that their Bitcoin on the exchange is never coming back.

This turbulence has not left the larger Bitcoin market unmolested. According to the averaged Bitcoin price, the dollar cost of a Bitcoin has shed around 10% of its value today, falling from $625 to $560. Mt.Gox, previously trading at around a 50% deficit, is now trading at one fifth the regular price..."


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Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World - by Nathaniel Popper and Rachel Abrams/ Business Day/ The New York Times.com

"The most prominent Bitcoin exchange appeared to be on the verge of collapse late Monday, raising questions about the future of a volatile marketplace.

On Monday night, a number of leading Bitcoin companies jointly announced that Mt. Gox, the largest exchange for most of Bitcoin’s existence, was planning to file for bankruptcy after months of technological problems and what appeared to have been a major theft. A document circulating widely in the Bitcoin world said the company had lost 744,000 Bitcoins in a theft that had gone unnoticed for years. That would be about 6 percent of the 12.4 million Bitcoins in circulation..."


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I admit I don't know anything about BitCoin except that it is out there and is somewhat volatile. My way of hedging against paper currencies has been to load up on .999 1oz Silver Eagles and .9999 1 oz Maple Leafs. Call me crazy but I see a lot less risk than BitCoin.

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I may be ignorant but sounds like the Danish tulip bubble to me. However if you got in early you would have made a killing by now.

I do get the concept but I would rather buy a metal or something I can hold. Having something mined by hand and not a GPU/CPU allows me to sleep better. However, I will never make the money some will make. I also will not lose the money someone will lose in the future.


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I can't see an unregulated currency ever succeeding long term. On top of this the US can instantly crush Bitcoin by taking a stance. They have already slightly leaned against it.
 

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Let me begin by saying, like most others, I wouldn't touch Bit Coins with a ten foot pole. People who buy are a bit like people who throw money at the lottery, hoping that lightening will strike in a bottle and they will get something for nothing. They could also easily get nothing for something. I don't gamble. It is not how I want to earn my money.

(In fairness, not everyone is trying to strike it rich. There are also Bit Coin buyers who like all things modernistic and are early adopters. There are also those who hate anything to do with the government and like a non-government currency. Then there are the drug dealers. Quite a mixed lot.)

That having been said, most of the recent news reports cite how Bit Coin has plunged from over a $1000 per coin to below $500 (almost in an instant). What they don't mention is that it is not that long ago that Bit Coins were valued at around $30. So, if someone had bought them, say a year and a half ago (that would not be me - see the opening paragraph), after this terrible recent crash in value (from over $1000 down to about $500), they would be weeping over the fact that after investing $30 per coin, all they are getting out of it is a mere $500 per coin (presuming that they did not have their coins in Mt. Gox and had them stolen). How awful!
 

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(Almost) Everything You Want to Know About Bitcoin, in One Report - by Jason Del Rey/ Commerce/ Recode.net

"Twelve months from now, this report could end up in a trash heap of great tech ideas gone bust, thanks to the recent implosion of bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox. But for now, the “State of Bitcoin 2014” report, published yesterday by bitcoin trade publication CoinDesk, is a reminder that while Gox was a major player in the rise of bitcoin, the digital currency ecosystem does not depend on it..."


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Erosion of Faith Was Death Knell for Mt. Gox - By Rachel Abrams, Matthew Goldstein, Hiroko Tabuchi/ Restructuring & Bankruptcy/ DealBook/ The New York Times.com

...On Friday, Mt. Gox filed for bankruptcy protection, five days after Mr. Karpeles resigned from the foundation and just days after its website suddenly went dark. The exchange said that most likely it had lost 750,000 of its customers’ Bitcoin holdings and more than 100,000 of its own coins, or more than $450 million worth..."

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Inside Japan's Bitcoin Heist - by Jake Adelstein/ World News/ TheDailyBeast.com

A former Mt. Gox employee says incompetent management and faulty accounting—not virtual robbers—are the real culprits in the missing millions.

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Inside Japan's Bitcoin Heist - by Jake Adelstein/ World News/ TheDailyBeast.com



A former Mt. Gox employee says incompetent management and faulty accounting—not virtual robbers—are the real culprits in the missing millions.



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Best article yet on what happened. And, it details how the problem was not an inherent issue with bitcoin but rather the cavalier manner in which mt gox was operated. They had no auditing of their records, etc. I hope and suspect that this incident will force standards to be applied to virtual currency exchanges and the market will be better for it.

Other comments in this article confirm what I have read for almost a year about mt gox, which is why I never put any coins with them. There was plenty of suspicion out there for those of us to find who wanted to experiment with virtual currencies to avoid mt gox, and I am still surprised that so many people trusted this company with their coins.

As for bitcoin itself, well:

And it does seem true that Bitcoins are very hard to forge or duplicate. Unfortunately, if you know what you’re doing, they may be easy to steal. Or if you’re not careful, they may be very easy to lose. Security in the transactions is paramount


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Another BitCoin bank robbed

The Guardian has this report of another BitCoin bank having been robbed.
 

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A fool and his bit coins are quickly parted. Owning bit coins is the equivalent of having a sign around your neck that says Please Rob Me. PT Barnum famously said 'a sucker is born every minute'.
 
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