[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

[CleoB]

Geldert has learned well from the crooks he's been dealing with. He want's another $250 to settle the claim for each of 1295 people in his group. That's another $323,750 in this pocket - not bad for the week work! How can I possibly pay him for screwing my out of my hard earned money. I'm too upset to say much more right now.....

Ask for a detailed statement indicating where the $500 he requested back in September went to.

 

[Petus@18]

Don't forget to send your concerns to the law society
professionalconduct@lsbc.org

This is a clear case of professional misconduct, corruption and malice. There are so many unethical serious issues in all of this that should be investigated. Don't let him get away for what he has done to us.

 

[Petus@18]

I think I found the right lawyer....and he just received a email from me.

Who is the lawyer? We are having problems finding someone that wants to help us. Very frustrating!

 

[melamike]

Did you get a message from him recently???

I got an invoice today with the documents I never agreed to but I'm expected to sign. Looking for a way out of this!!

 

[Scammed!]

I got an invoice today with the documents I never agreed to but I'm expected to sign. Looking for a way out of this!![/QUOT

Who is the lawyer? We are having problems finding someone that wants to help us. Very frustrating!

Don't panic....Danielle Smith said who on the radio which you should listen to.

 

[aden2]

I think that the so called "Legacy for Life" was to make one to think it was a timeshare thing when it was more like a "PONZI SCHEME". It raised more than $23 million and wonder if they could be charged with this. It was nothing but a FRAUD SCHEME! Between 2009 and 2012, when Del Rosario was working as an accounting clerk for the Worker’s Compensation Board, she tricked her victims into handing over $1.8 million, under the guise of buying into an ‘investment plan’. She was sentenced January 5, 2018.

Ponzi scheme is a scam investment designed to separate investors from their money. Everything NM has done is to scam more money. It was the bond deal $40 million, the legacy deal $23 million, the renovation scheme, the millions in collecting maintenance fees, the selling of Hillside for $11million etc. NM has no intention of running a resort it is a Ponzi Scheme and they should be criminally charged.

 

[Tacoma]

Time for bed and still no letter with details from my lawyer. Apparently the bill is more than we expect and comes with a gag order. Great these crooks will be able to do it again.

 

[Scammed!]

Time for bed and still no letter with details from my lawyer. Apparently the bill is more than we expect and comes with a gag order. Great these crooks will be able to do it again.

If there is a gag order no one stop doing what your doing....Keep emailing calling OFFICIALS and reporting what is happening to you. You all know who to call. Don't give up!!!

 

[torqued]

Did NW phone into the radio talk show yesterday? If so what did they have to say? Have not received anything from MG though I told him I rejected the settlement. Washed his hands of me?

 

[Inquiringmind]

[ got my documents from Geldert yesterday. In the settlement documents it says that if I don’t pay it goes to 162% by “consent to judgment”. What is consent to judgement in this context Did we agree to this. Or did a judge rule this. What are the implications? I think the implication may be that you have a greed to the debt and the plaintiff and start attaching to your assets. Correct me if I’m wrong on this.

 

[Notwhatweweresold]

Did NW phone into the radio talk show yesterday? If so what did they have to say? Have not received anything from MG though I told him I rejected the settlement. Washed his hands of me?

Talk show host Danielle Smith said Northmont declined to be interviewed but sent her links to the court decisions in their favour. She described their message as implying "Too bad, so sad." I received the email from MG with the settlement docs attached at 11:45 p.m. last night. He is dealing with more than 1,000 clients still on a tight deadline so it's likely those who rejected the settlement won't hear from him, at least not until he processes our final papers.

 

[Notwhatweweresold]

[ got my documents from Geldert yesterday. In the settlement documents it says that if I don’t pay it goes to 162% by “consent to judgment”. What is consent to judgement in this context Did we agree to this. Or did a judge rule this. What are the implications? I think the implication may be that you have a greed to the debt and the plaintiff and start attaching to your assets. Correct me if I’m wrong on this.

MG said one reason he agreed to the settlement offer was that KW was intent on coming after us for 162% of what NM states we owe and that would then also include charges for 2018 MF plus interest to date at over 26%/year! Once the Appeal Court agreed NM could charge us the project reno fee, a cancellation fee, plus interest, well, we were backed into a corner. MG fought for 5% interest, which is what the law states is the maximum we can be charged under our particular TS lease contract as it does not specify a "per annum" rate, but NM said they would then up the cancellation fee to extract the same amount of money from each of us. Totally unfair all around IMHO.

 

[MgolferL]

FYI...Danielle Smith is discussing it again on her show this morning.

 

[CleoB]

MG said one reason he agreed to the settlement offer was that KW was intent on coming after us for 162% of what NM states we owe and that would then also include charges for 2018 MF plus interest to date at over 26%/year! Once the Appeal Court agreed NM could charge us the project reno fee, a cancellation fee, plus interest, well, we were backed into a corner. MG fought for 5% interest, which is what the law states is the maximum we can be charged under our particular TS lease contract as it does not specify a "per annum" rate, but NM said they would then up the cancellation fee to extract the same amount of money from each of us. Totally unfair all around IMHO.

So if NM was going to up the cancellation fee how did they bargain in good faith? Or is MG b.s. us? He does have another group that he needs to work on so I'm guessing he wants to be rid of us. https://www.citheownersgroup.org/jra-info

 

[Scammed!]

I have a question this is not the certificate of judgement from the Honourable Judge Young correct? Correct......Now this is what I do know. I do not trust my lawyer at all due to all the issues mentioned and why we need a middle man. I do not trust NM. I will not send one dollar to either of these people which I don't have anyways. I suggest we write Judge Young to see if she is allowing this mess and if we have been convicted of a crime we did not commit and if she is allowing our lawyer and NM to deny her orders. Why does she need our lawyer whom she knows has misrepresented, denied her orders, and received our letters which should in itself get some sort of legal procedure in place? Also where does she see fit to send any money what so ever in trust? I don't trust this process.

 

[torqued]

Need another attorney to navigate all that. Judge Young is done with us unless forced to deal with us by some sort of legal procedure. MG isn’t going to do it for us

 

[Scammed!]

Need another attorney to navigate all that. Judge Young is done with us unless forced to deal with us by some sort of legal procedure. MG isn’t going to do it for us

Well start looking everyone! We need that legal procedure to take place and if not. What says we can't all go to the court house and do it ourselves. Get out your banners people!

And on that note why would our lawyer not do it for us? Think about that for one moment.....HE WAS NEVER ON OUR SIDE HE HAS MISREPRESENTED US! I paid him to defend my rights and at this moment that is not taking place. Who in there right mind would send money to him?

 

[Notwhatweweresold]

So if NM was going to up the cancellation fee how did they bargain in good faith? Or is MG b.s. us? He does have another group that he needs to work on so I'm guessing he wants to be rid of us. https://www.citheownersgroup.org/jra-info

If one side holds the power, is it ever in good faith? When court decisions supported NM's position that all costs are chargeable to TS holders and agreed NM can charge a cancellation fee... I feel angry, frustrated, sad, disillusioned, but my practical side says this gig's up. I just don't see an avenue that will result in cost savings and can't afford to risk an even higher bill down the road.

 

[torqued]

As I said before the sign of a fair settlement is where neither side is happy. Surely not the case here. The only leverage we have is having them come after each of us individually.

 

[Scammed!]

As I said before the sign of a fair settlement is where neither side is happy. Surely not the case here. The only leverage we have is having them come after each of us individually.

Then so it will be. ....

 

[Just Looking Around]

I talked to a lawyer last night who said a forensic audit/review could be completed for about 10,000. Not by him but he could refer me. I do not have 10,000 but if 10 people had 1,000 or 20 people 500. Does anyone think this is feasible?

I'm in for $1,000. I don't think you can do one now that the court case is over. The Lawyer looks at fault to me. What was he thinking?

 

[Petus@18]

[ got my documents from Geldert yesterday. In the settlement documents it says that if I don’t pay it goes to 162% by “consent to judgment”. What is consent to judgement in this context Did we agree to this. Or did a judge rule this. What are the implications? I think the implication may be that you have a greed to the debt and the plaintiff and start attaching to your assets. Correct me if I’m wrong on this.

Is the amount being asked higher than the amount from the invoice we got from Northmont? Or is it lower?

 

[Notwhatweweresold]

Is the amount being asked higher than the amount from the invoice we got from Northmont? Or is it lower?

Ours is higher.

 

[Spark1]

I think that the so called "Legacy for Life" was to make one to think it was a timeshare thing when it was more like a "PONZI SCHEME". It raised more than $23 million and wonder if they could be charged with this. It was nothing but a FRAUD SCHEME! Between 2009 and 2012, when Del Rosario was working as an accounting clerk for the Worker’s Compensation Board, she tricked her victims into handing over $1.8 million, under the guise of buying into an ‘investment plan’. She was sentenced January 5, 2018.

Ponzi scheme is a scam investment designed to separate investors from their money. Everything NM has done is to scam more money. It was the bond deal $40 million, the legacy deal $23 million, the renovation scheme, the millions in collecting maintenance fees, the selling of Hillside for $11million etc. NM has no intention of running a resort it is a Ponzi Scheme and they should be criminally charged.

You are right and I hope no one pays for this scam. Remember every one of you ,you bought a product that was legal to sell in Canada. The governments have a responsibity to protect Consumers from this. My Contract signed by Collin Knight was the Contract listed on the Canadian Consumers Handbook. This contract was simple to under stand. It was the right to use Lease and you own no Property . The Freedom to Choose was not in my Contract. We have a right to protect ourselfs from these scammers using consumer affairs in the provinces as well as in Canada that is our right if they are changing our contracts. We all have to get after all the politicians Federal and Provincial politicians and demand protection from these scammers. Only they can make changes. Do not allow any politician tell you there is nothing they can do for you because it is a timeshare. It is these two governments that are allowing Timeshare to be sold in Canada. We demand that the Contracts that they list under the Canadian Consumer Handbook are protected by both governments. We had a terrible Lawyer but we still can demand Justice. I would never trust a thing MG did ,you still might not be released and if you decide to pay you better Know where the numbers are coming from. I feel the judicial system were just as big as scammers as Northmont.

 

[Spark1]

Remember this is no different than with your bank. Say a new owner takes over your bank and you have a 30 year contract with the bank. Then all of a sudden the new owner can change your contract and say you did not pay enough interest to the bank for the last 20 years and we are going to charge you another 5% compounded for those years. Boy I bet Consumer Affairs Canada would be disputing this right away. You can not be lazy I have contacted every MP in Alberta and I Will be sending a 10 page letter now to the top politicians demanding justice using Consumer Protection from a product that they allowed to be sold in Canada and we demand protection from these Scammers.