[2010] RMI Property Group

[amisela]

Looking to sue

Timeshare owners who have been scammed must file a complaint with the Attorney General and the Federal Trade Commission (ftc.gov), it's the only way to get these people closed down. Sometimes they actually are able to get some money back for people, but the only ones that get money back are the ones who filed complaints. The more complaints the better.
If you have used your credit card I would also file a dispute with the credit card company for deceptive practices and services not rendered.

People are so deparate to sell their Timeshares because they need the money or can't keep up the monthly fees, that they want to believe that these companies actually have a buyer. I know people that have been scammed 5 or more times.

I don't understand why the FTC or State Agencies have not made it illegal to advertise Timeshares without a Real Estate License. If I were advertising homes or rentals without a Real Estate License you can bet that NAR would be all over it. I guess because there is no market for Timeshares and nobody is making any money except the scammers nobody seems to care.

Good luck.

I have a digital recording of RMIPG attempting to scam us (for a second time which is why I taped it). We are having a hell of a time finding a lawyer to take the case. They are listed in Arizona, incorporated in Wyoming, based in Oregon, and "selling" property in Florida.

Anyone who can help would be much appreciated. I think if we find the right lawyer we can make this a class action and shut them down.

- Ami in Ohio

 

[TUGBrian]

this is a criminal matter not a civil one, report them to the attorney generals office

 

[theo]

Uhhhh....

I have a digital recording of RMIPG attempting to scam us (for a second time which is why I taped it). We are having a hell of a time finding a lawyer to take the case. They are listed in Arizona, incorporated in Wyoming, based in Oregon, and "selling" property in Florida.

Not to rain on your parade, but different states have very different laws regarding the legality of tape recording telephone conversations without the mutual knowledge and consent of both parties.

You might want to consider confining your pronouncements of having unilaterally taped private phone conversations to a less public arena.

Just sayin'....

 

[Cass]

Sounds just like one we had call us

See my thread http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147412 explaining the scam that happened to us. It almost sounds like the same company, only a little change on the name - Realty Property Management Inc.

 

[amisela]

Not to rain on your parade, but different states have very different laws regarding the legality of tape recording telephone conversations without the mutual knowledge and consent of both parties.

You might want to consider confining your pronouncements of having unilaterally taped private phone conversations to a less public arena.

Just sayin'....

They stated that the conversation was being taped, so they were aware of a recording. It was not unilateral. I have it on the tape that they said they were recording.

 

[fallgrenz]

RMIPG struck again

Most of you might remember last June I was on TUGS about RMIPG. At that time, I had been taken out of their Rewards Program. Well, it got the attention of the new owner then, Mr. Tanner Bennett and he put us back into the Rewards Program. So today, I receive a letter with our prepaid $25 Visa card that they were under new ownership. Funny thing, they do not give us the new owners name/address. The letter states that our contract expired on or about Sept 2010... But the new owners of RMIPG have agreed to continue to market our property until 12/31/11. According to my copy of the contract under section (2) THIS IS A LIFE TIME PROGRAM. Then section (5) states RMIPG assumes that your resort property unit sells or rents as a result of our marketing and advertising within 180 days. If your resort property unit does not sell or rent in 180 days, RMIPG WILL CONTINUE LISTING YOUR PROPERTY AT THEIR EXPENSE FOR A LIFE TIME. So I would like to meet these new owners to see where they have the right to expire their services. Also, the current owners will be discontinuing the Rewards Program effective 11/1/11, since this was initially a promotional gift provided to us by the previous owners. Then...I really like this...they say they are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause, and want to thank us for being a part of the RMIPG family. So why can't they at least include the names of the new owners that would have been convenient and might reassure that they are still listing our property.

Is there anyone else that has heard from RMIPG lately? We need to unite!

 

[blogger]

Rmipg

If RMIPG changed hands then there must be a document on file with a county or state indicating the change of ownership. You cannot transfer ownership without having it recorded with the government. Your timeshare has your name on it, so does your house and vehicle. The same principle applies to transfer of ownership of a business. Can Mr. Tanner provide proof of change of ownership? I doubt that he can or will. From reading this thread, I would be inclined to believe that the ownership has and still is in the hands of the same individual. Only their alias has changed. My advise, hire an attorney and file a lawsuit. They will have to surface and provide their true identity.

 

[DPatterson]

its already illegal to take upfront fees to advertise timeshares in florida.

I'm not sure if it has ever been pointed out, but I have seen the above statement posted on TUG quite a bit and it is just plain false.

In Florida it is absolutely NOT against the law to collect an upfront fee to advertise a timeshare, although I think it should be. It IS against the law for a real estate agent to collect an upfront fee to list your timeshare. The resale companies are not real estate brokers and claim that they are only advertising a property. It's a good little scam they have going. I learned a lot about this after getting suckered by a couple of Florida companies.

Brian, please direct me to the Florida Statute that states collecting an upfront fee to advertise a timeshare is illegal.

Here is the statute that I believe you are referring to and using as a basis to pass on false info...
721.20 Licensing requirements; suspension or revocation of license; exceptions to applicability; collection of advance fees for listings unlawful.—

The statute concerns real estate brokers and agents and does not apply to advertising companies. I hope that helps to clear up the misrepresentation that charging an upfront fee for advertising is illegal in Florida because it most certainly is not.

 

[jefffudge]

Hi, just to make this clear, this is not us. We are Resort Property Marketing International Real Estate (RPMI) in Arkansas and have been since 1991. Fairfield started here and had their corporate office in Little Rock for 40 years, until bought by Cendant. We specialize in Wyndham Worldmark and Wyndham Fairfield (Wyndham Vacation Resorts). We are a licensed Real Estate Broker, BBB rated A+, Ebay rated 100% and a Charter Member of the Licensed Timeshare Real Estate Brokers Association (LTRBA), which has a website and I am on the membership board. It is made up of about 60 legitimate brokers and agents.The LTRBA has been working with state and local governments and the Florida Legistation for new laws to stem the tide of scams with great results. Many of the LTRBA companies have had attempts to clone them. I have had several, including one who tried to get a license under my name in Washington state. We do not cold call anyone other that our client base and buyers and sellers who call us. 50% of our business comes from referrals. They seek us for performance. Further down the thread there is a comment from one of our clients rickandcindy23. We do not get a Up Front Fee as our website states and we are honest with what our sellers and buyers can expect, and a reasonable commission after the closing. We have had a classified ad on Timesharing Today for many many years and a banner ad on Tug sesonally.

Thanks for your time...JEFF FUDGE, President, Resort Property Marketing International Real Estate(RPMI) since 1991