[2009] SCAM WARNING - Beware Of Westgate Sales Group Rentals

[thecypher]

I paid back in June and after a few attempts for confirmations I am wondering if he will follow through with my rentals. I paid $3,500 to him and I can't seem to get any kind of confirmation that I am booked through the resort. He just says he is waiting to hear back from the owners.

Holy molly! $3500??? Looks like he is cleaning up and will be disappear by the end of the year with a couple of 100 Gs in his pocket.

 

[thecypher]

BTW, somebody needs to sue PayPal. They are another scam company. I think there is a class action lawsuit waiting to happen and I hope it does. They do deceptive marketing by telling you if you use PayPal you are covered up to $25,000 or whatever. All bogus. I learnt it the hard way. I got screwed by somebody on eBay. I paid $350 for an item and the seller disappeared and guess what PayPal does? They say they cannot recover anything from the person's checking account so case closed. Like the person would be stupid enough to be sitting there with money in their checking account for PayPal to grab. They make it extremely hard to pay by credit card. They always default to using your checking account because they lose money if you use a credit card. There is a tiny link somewhere hidden at the bottom that allows you to change the payment method to credit card. They do everything they can to stop you from using a credit card. If you have PayPal balance in your account you have to use it. You cannot use a credit card. So what is this bogus advertising about coverage in case of fraud??? I don't think they ever recover anybody's money. They always tell you they could not recover it.

I always make it a point to keep my PayPal balance at $0 and I always pay by Credit Card even if the amount is $1. Screw them!!!

 

[John Stevens]

InnSeason Resorts Scam Ripoff

Avoid at all costs NERM, AKA New England Resort Management, Curran Management Services, Innseason Resorts AKA InnSeason Management, AKA First Priority Travel, AKA Crown Vacations, AKA Southern Peaks Companies, AKA R&B Development, LLC, William Curran AKA as Billy Curran AKA as Bill Curran, Dennis Ducharme, Leon Narbone AKA Leon Narbonne, Antony Constantine AKA Tino Constantine, operators of the Breakers, the Soundings and the Edgewater AKA Edgewater Beach in Dennis Port, MA and other resorts in Cape Cod and New England (Captain’s Quarters, HarborWalk, Surfside, Falmouth, MA, Pollard Brook, South Mountain, Lincoln, NH, The Falls at Ogunquit, Mountainview, Ogunquit, ME and Jackman, ME). These people are operating a timeshare ripoff. Multiple complaints filed with Massachusetts Attorney General, Barnstable Registry and local police. You will not get your free vouchers or travel filled. If you purchase, you will not get your licenses recorded. If you choose to rent your unit, you will not get your rental income. Time share deposits missing. Multiple complaints, e-mails regarding this timeshare scam have gone unanswered. InnSeason cannot be trusted!! Many have lost tens of thousands of dollars!! Visitors or hotel guests to the Breakers, Edgewater or the Soundings – beware of time share marketing!! Do not take one dollar out of your pocket or you will be so, so sorry!!! This is a TRUE story!! Anyone wanting further documentation may e-mail js150wire@yahoo.com

 

[roadtriper]

Update

I finaly reached a settlement with my CC company. they closed the dispute because the date of the promised rental (9/20/09) had not yet passed. I reopened the dispute last week and they sent me a letter today saying they were going to credit my account with the amount in Dispute. So it looks like I will be made whole finacialy, BUT I still want to see the SOB in Handcuffs! has anyone else had any feedback from anyone??? RT

 

[gbraslow]

Don't buy Florida

Some of these replies are pretty old and I don't know whether anyone has read them recently but I will post this anyway. Because the consumer fraud laws in some states are so weak I prefer not to deal with businesses in those states. Florida is one of them. Another one is Delaware. When I was studying economics I learned that many corporations set up shop in Delaware because it is literally impossible to go after them, if need be. Many of these companies set up dummy corporations in Delaware. It is the same in Florida. I have been ripped off by a Florida business once and that was enough for me. Unfortunately I was bequeathed some land in Florida which I must sell and I don't trust anyone in business there to deal with me on an honest level. I know that this is a blanket statement but do not buy anything that comes from Florida. Why do you think that some of these fraudulent businesses operate out of Florida? Because they know that they'll get away with their crimes. Florida has the Everglades and I wish that these guys would just crawl back in with the crime, slime and predators that come out of that state.

 

[kapish]

Does TUG qualify renters who respond to ads in Timeshare marketplace?

I wonder whether TUG qualifies renters who respond to ads in Timeshare marketplace. I have an ad seeking a rental and I have been getting multiple responses daily.

How can I ensure these renters are legitimate, especially since they are only providing an email, and not their TUG ID?

What is the best method to confirm the renter is legitimate? Thoughts please.

 

[TUGBrian]

the marketplace is free and open to the public, you do not have to be a TUG member to view ads.

you only have to be a member to post an ad.

With the amount of traffic the marketplace recieves, it would easily be cut dramatically if it were limited to only tug members.

 

[kapish]

Thanks...

Thanks Brian. I understand what you are saying. The following questions remain...

How can I ensure these renters are legitimate, especially since they are only providing an email, and not their TUG ID?

What is the best method to confirm the renter is legitimate? Thoughts please.

 

[TUGBrian]

not really sure how someone who isnt a TUG member will provide you with their TUG ID...so I dont know how to answer the first question.

the latter, using the how to rent article in the advice section

http://tug2.net/timeshare_advice/howtorentyourtimeshare.htm

 

[TUGBrian]

however as I understand it, these scams came from people posting RENT WISH ads...ie posting want ads for timeshares to rent...and said scammers were offering them rentals that they didnt have by simply contacting them via email.

not the other way around.

 

[brucecz]

however as I understand it, these scams came from people posting RENT WISH ads...ie posting want ads for timeshares to rent...and said scammers were offering them rentals that they didnt have by simply contacting them via email.

not the other way around.

Here are some of the ways I handle if someone wants to inquire maybe about renting from me and would be IMHO good questions for any renter to ask to try and help to check them out if they are approached to rent a rental.

I first let them know that I am one of the few that list their own real name, home phone number and home address in all of our ads were permitted. We even post them on our vr ebay ads and VTR ads were we have earned a 100% rating on both sites from our renters.

I am also willing to send a copy the latest paid maintenance fee. Of course I can not send a paid maintenance fee if is for a 2010 reservation as we have not paid them yet because most maintenance fees for 2010 have not been sent out us owners at this time.

I am willing on our resorts that do not send reservation confirmations to us as soon as we reserve them( if is a floating week) a copy of our deed. We are willing to send a copy of our deed with our account info whited out for our security reasons.

The same would hold true for one of our deeded weeks like our fixed week 26 at our Rushes in Door County.

If it is for our floating weeks our our Lindo Mar Resort or like our Christmas Mountain or other Bluegreen reservations and our other resorts, we send them a copy of the confirmed reservations. Like shown father below.

In fact I have given permission to the Christmas Mountain front desk to verify to any one who calls that any one of our about 48 reservations is in fact reservered by us for the unit and date listed all of our ads, including our Tug Market Place ads. If it happens to be a Newer front desk employee that will not give the info I ask the renter to get that persons name so I can get the front desk manager to tell that new person it is OK to provide that info.

Here is one copy ( of many) of a confirmation what I post on the rental sites were they provide enough space to post it along with our detailed rental agreements.

Bruce

Your Reservation Confirmation
Date Confirmed: 09/05/09 Confirmation Number: XXXXXX
Dear CZAJKOWSKI, BRUCE F ,Thank you for making your reservation with Bluegreen Vacation Services. To expedite your check-in, please present this confirmation to the front desk when you arrive at the resort..

Reservation Detail


Resort Name: CHRISTMAS MOUNTAIN VILLAGE™S944 CHRISTMAS MOUNTAIN ROADWISCONSIN DELLS, WI 608.253.1000
Guest Name1) CZAJKOWSKI, BRUCE F
Check-In Date: 10/17/09
Check-Out Date: 10/24/09
Number ofGuests: 6
Villa Size/Description2) 2 Bedroom 2 Bath Timber Unit # TM 70
Max. Occupancy(3): 6
Reservation Type: Flex
Housekeeping Fees: $50.00
IMPORTANT NOTES:Minimum age for check-in: 18 Check-in: 4 p.m. (5 p.m. for RCI guests) Check-out: 10 a.m. Office hours: 6 a.m. – 11 p.m. daily CTLate check-in procedures: Page the security officer. Instructions posted at registration building. Nearest airport: Dane County Regional (MSN) Miles to resort: 55 Pets allowed? No Smoking policy: Smoking permitted outside on balconies and patios. Guest who smoke inside the unit are subject to a $100 deep cleaning fee. Ionizers available upon request. Parking: On site, no charge, one vehicle per villa. Auxiliary parking available.Day use policy: Club owners not staying at the resort must call prior to arrival to ensure availability for day use. First priority given to resort occupants. Guaranteed/flex owners refer to their association rules.Deposit required: Upon check-in, each reservation will be charged a $50 deposit for incidentals. Major credit card required. Other notes: NACurrent construction: Through November, 2009: Installation of natural gas lines. Project includes digging of trenches and installation of gas lines throughout the property. Work will occur 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Thursday with Friday used only as a reschedule day for weather. RV CAMPSITES:Type: Back-in and pull-throughPad surface: AsphaltPad length/width: 46-59 feet long by 10 feet wideHookups: Water, sewer, electric, cableAmperage available: 50Site amenities: Fire ring ($25 fee assessed if not cleaned out prior to check-out), grill, picnic tableCheck-in: 12 noon to 9 p.m. daily CT (no registration available after 9 p.m.); check in at the back gate on Lyndon RoadCheck-out: 11 a.m. CTOther notes: Shower/bath house available on site.

(1) A valid driver's license and credit card will be required at time of check-in.(2) The resort reserves the right to assign a different unit of the same size and occupancy of the one confirmed.(3) The occupancy limit includes children of all ages and is strictly enforced.
These resort notes are subject to change prior to your arrival. For the most updated information, plus resort photos, floor plans, area information, directions to the resort and more, please visit www.bluegreenonline.com/CHRISTMAS MOUNTAIN VILLAGE™.We look forward to seeing you soon!Bluegreen Vacation Services800.456.CLUB (2582), option 1

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[tiresmokindad]

Holy molly! $3500??? Looks like he is cleaning up and will be disappear by the end of the year with a couple of 100 Gs in his pocket.

Oh man! What happen to this! $3500 is too much! You should not tolerate this kind of SCAM! :annoyed: