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2009 Maintenance Fees Thread - Some available at MSC.com now

nodge

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2009 Charges:

Maintenance Fee(s) $ 827.60

Tax - If Applicable $ 0.00 (Included in maint fee at SDO)

SVN Membership Fee - If Applicable $ 109.00

Other* $ 0.00

ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** $ 0.00 (This fee is VOLUNTARY and the FEDS are investigating ARDA/SVO to see if it is/has been illegally collected from us owners.)

Current Year Charges $ 936.60 (for SVN members)

NOTE: Non-SVN SDO's (i.e. those who bought SDO resale and didn't requal it) don't pay the $109.00 SVN fee, so the 2009 maint fee for them is: $827.60

FURTHER NOTE: This 2009 maint fee at SDO is only a 4.2% increase ($33.36) over 2008's maint fee. It could have been so much worse. Thanks SVO!

SDO 2009 Maint Fees are due on January 8, 2009.

-nodge
 
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DeniseM

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WKORV, WKV, 2-SDO, 4-Kauai Beach Villas, Island Park Village (Yellowstone), Hyatt High Sierra, Dolphin's Cove (Anaheim)
SDO Lg. 1 Bdm. EOY

Due Date 01/08/2009

Maintenance Fee(s) - $ 304.49
Tax - If Applicable - $ 0.00
Membership Fee - If Applicable - $ 0.00
Other* - $ 0.00
Interest - - $ 0.00
ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** - $ 5.00

Sub-Total
Current Year Charges - $ 309.49
Less Payments*** - $ 0.00
Total Due - $ 309.49

This is an increase of $11.47 over last year.
 

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Maintenance Fee Details (WMH 2009)

Maintenance Fee Details (WMH 2009)

Current Year Charges
Maintenance Fee(s) - $ 1,338.59
Tax - If Applicable - $ 0.00
Membership Fee - If Applicable - $ 0.00
Other* - $ 0.00
Interest - $ 0.00
Late Fees - $ 0.00
ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** - $ 5.00
Sub-Total
Current Year Charges - $ 1,343.59

Note: Tax is billed directly by Riverside County, and my SVN fees are billed on other weeeks. Last year was $1,412.74 by comparison - a 5% decrease this year.

-tim
 

Ken555

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WMH EOY MFs is $669.28. Last year was $649.36, so this is a 3% increase. Interesting that the EY unit saw a 5% decrease.
 

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MF $1,281.98
Tax $54.82
= $1336.80
This includes the 2nd (of 2) special assessment payment.

FWIW, Kierland still doesn't have the MFs posted yet.
 
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rickandcindy23

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Wyndham Founder; Disney OKW & SSR; Marriott's Willow Ridge,Shadow Ridge,Grand Chateau;Val Chatelle; Hono Koa OF (3); SBR(LOTS), SDO a few; Grand Palms; WKORV-OF (2),Westin Desert Willow.
Gee, I don't even want to think about SBP maintenance fees. I have just finished paying my Foxrun fees today. UGH! I need to sell some of my weeks. I know it as well as I know it is going to snow today in Denver.
 

djyamyam

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2BR annual

MF.................851.57
ARDA............... 5.00
Total..............856.57

2BR EOY

MF................445.79
ARDA.............. 0.00
Total.............445.79

This is an 8.4% increase for annual ownerships over 2008 and an 8.0% increase for EOYs
 

grgs

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Westin Kierland 2 bd LO (Annual)

Westin Kierland 2 bd LO annual (Platinum)

2009 Operating Assessment = $895.62
2009 Replacement Reserve = $190.75
2009 Estimated Real Estate Tax = $ 57.39
2009 SVN Membership Fee = $109.00
2009 ARDA ROC PAC Contribution = $ 5.00

2009 GRAND TOTAL Fees = $1257.76

Last year's total was $1212.18, including SVN & ARDA. Leaving out those two fees, the mf increased approx. 4.2%.

Glorian
 
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grgs

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Westin Kierland 1 bd premium annual (Platinum)

2009 Operating Assessment = $549.79
2009 Replacement Reserve = $117.09
2009 Estimated Real Estate Tax = $ 31.59
2009 SVN Membership Fee = $109.00 (but we only pay $33 as this is a 2nd week for us)
2009 ARDA ROC PAC Contribution = $ 5.00

2009 GRAND TOTAL Fees = $812.47

Last year's total was $788.41, including SVN & ARDA. Leaving out those two fees, the mf increased approx. 3.6%.

Glorian
 
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SDO Sm. 1 Bdm. EOY
Due Date 01/08/2009

2009 Operating Assessment - $ 217.32
2009 Replacement Reserve - $ 44.06
2009 ARDA ROC PAC Contrib. - $ 5.00 (Optional)

Current Year Charges - $ 266.38
 

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SBP

Just got the bill in the mail. From the back:

1Bdrm Deluxe: 322.00
1 Bedroom: 412.01
1Bdrm Premium: 586.17
2Bdrm: 725.77 (FYI, this is about $30 higher than my online "estimate")
2Bdrm L/O: 908.17
 
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DavidnRobin

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Last year's total was $788.41. Leaving out the SVN & ARDA fees, the mf increased approx. 3.6%.

Glorian

I have last year's MFs for WKV (1Bd Prem) as $674.41 (incl. Tax but not SVN and ARDA) for both of our units - why the difference?
 

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I have last year's MFs for WKV (1Bd Prem) as $674.41 (incl. Tax but not SVN and ARDA) for both of our units - why the difference?

I can see my earlier statement was confusing. The $788.41 figure for 2008 includes SVN and ARDA fees. However, when computing the increase in mf, I did not include those fees, as I think that would distort the actual percent increase. I'll try to clarify that above.

Glorian
 
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Westin Kierland 1 bd deluxe annual (Platinum)

2009 Operating Assessment = $345.83
2009 Replacement Reserve = $73.66
2009 Estimated Real Estate Tax = $25.80
2009 SVN Membership Fee = $109.00
2009 ARDA ROC PAC Contribution = $ 5.00

2009 GRAND TOTAL Fees = $559.29

Interesting that I got the notice by mail, but the fees are still not yet posted on mystarcentral.com.
 

clsmit

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SBP Original Phase (not Palmetto) 2BR LO

Bought resale, so no SVN charges:

2009 Operating Assessment: $723.19
2009 Replacement Reserve: $184.98
2009 ARDA ROC PAC Contribution: $5.00

Total: $913.17
 

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SBP

Just got the bill in the mail. From the back:

1Bdrm Deluxe: 322.00
1 Bedroom: 412.01
1Bdrm Premium: 586.17
2Bdrm: 725.77 (FYI, this is about $30 higher than my online "estimate")
2Bdrm L/O: 908.17

I think this must be Palmetto phase since it's higher than what I got.
 

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$839.19

last yr $776.40
 

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2009 Operating Assessment $655.38
2009 Replacement Reserve $134.77
2009 Real Estate Tax $105.48

Total MF 2009 $895.63

2008 Tax Credit -$21.26
2009 SVN Membership $109.00

2009 Invoice (No ARDA) $983.37

Compared to 2008 Invoice $940.29

Difference between 2008 & 2009 estimated taxes - 5cents
Difference between 2008 & 2009 operating costs/replacement reserve $64.29 or 8.9%. Wish our household income had increased by 8.9% this year.
I would even take an 8.9% decrease in our stock portfolio.
 
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Maintenance Fees

WKORV was $ 1717.82 last year for a 2BLO, to put it in perspective that is $ 89,326.64 per year for the 1 2BLO. It seems I could hire someone full time to tend the room repaint and still have money left over for furniture.

It is my understanding that maintenance fees are calculated for the upcoming year and are prepaid. With Starwood laying off so many people,


An interesting article. Starwood is laying off numerous people at Villas, and stated that it was done at the owners request. They forgot to get input from me, I guess.

With the layoffs and maintenance fees precollected, shouldn't there be a refund?

Just a thought.

Scott
 

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2009 MFs for WKV 1Bd - Premium (Large)

2009 MFs for WKV 1Bd - Premium
Operating Assessment: $549.79
Replacment Reserve: $117.09
Estimated Real Estate Tax: $31.59

Total: $698.47
3.57% increase over 2008
 
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Maintenance Fee Details (WSJ 3BR VG)

Maintenance Fee Details (WSJ 3BR VG)

Current Year Charges
Maintenance Fee(s) - $ 2,959.02
Tax - If Applicable - $ 0.00
Membership Fee - If Applicable - $ 0.00
Other* - $ 0.00
Interest - $ 0.00
Late Fees - $ 0.00
ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** - $ 0.00
Sub-Total
Current Year Charges - $ 2,959.02

Clearly this includes the increase due to the renovation. This amount is $1,133.59 more than last year.

-tim
 

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Just noticed on MSC for WKORV-N for 2009 (this is a 12% increase on a one year old facility) :



Maintenance Fee(s) $ 1,861.77

Tax - If Applicable $ 0.00

Membership Fee - If Applicable $ 113.53

Other* $ 0.00

Interest $ 0.00

Late Fees $ 0.00

ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** $ 0.00

Sub-Total
Current Year Charges $ 1,975.30
 
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W-KORV FOR 2009

Current Year Charges

Maintenance Fee(s) $ 1,785.07

Tax - If Applicable $ 0.00

Membership Fee - If Applicable $ 113.53

Other* $ 0.00

Interest $ 0.00

Late Fees $ 0.00

ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** $ 0.00

Sub-Total
Current Year Charges $ 1,898.60
 

WalnutBaron

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Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas

Maintenance Fee(s) $ 2,350.99

Tax - If Applicable $ 0.00

Membership Fee - If Applicable $ 113.53

Other* $ 0.00

Interest $ 0.00

Late Fees $ 0.00

ARDA ROC PAC Contrib.** $ 0.00

Sub-Total
Current Year Charges $ 2,464.52

FYI, this is a pretty stiff 18% increase over last year.
 

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Here comes the resale parade. More STIFF increases at both WKORV and WPORV. This is really getting out of control. As owners, do we have any options to be heard with SVN stacking the board??
 
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