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  1. Clifbell

    My Advice to Marriott Vacation Club ... Timeshare Traveler Episode 201

    I wanted to provide Marriott Vacation Club a list of what they should do more of to improve their program. I consider myself an experienced traveler and knowledgable of their program. But I also have some ideas on how the program could be better. In this video, I go through the major...
  2. Clifbell

    Marriott Grand Residence Studio review in South Lake Tahoe, Ca

    Located at the base of Heavenly valley Ski resort is the Marriott Vacation Club Grand Residence. The studio has a nice bathroom with a tub and shower combination. It has a full kitchen and a dining table for two people which is unusual for a studio. The bed area is partially separated from the...
  3. W

    48 hours after purchase ... rescind and rebuy?

    Hi everyone, newbie here, nice to meet you! My wife and I purchased a 4,000 Abound point package on April 17 (2 days ago), direct from Marriott Vacation Club (onsite at Westin Kā'anapali Ocean Resort Villas). This is our first timeshare purchase, though we've been through a bunch of...
  4. Clifbell

    Residence Inn Two Bedroom Farfield review in Fairfield Ca

    Here is what you do with the Bonvoy points you earn with your owner updates. Located in Fairfield which is about one hour from San Francisco sits the residence Inn by Marriott. The Residence Inn has many of the same features as a timeshare but also free breakfasts like a hotel... I call this...
  5. Clifbell

    Ritz Carlton Club San Francisco One Bedroom Review

    Today I am reviewing the Ritz Carlton Club one bedroom in San Francisco, California. This property is located in the center of Downtown San Francisco. This is the only Ritz Carlton property that I have stayed in. The One bedroom is extremely opulent. Every part of the unit is first class...
  6. Clifbell

    Westin Desert Willow One Bedroom Review in Palm Springs Ca

    Palms Springs is about 100 miles east of Los Angeles. The Desert Willow Resort is located about 3 miles off the main freeway. But what an Oasis in the desert. The room was adequate for 2 people and could fit 4. In stayed in the small one bedroom because I was Driving though and the cost was...
  7. Clifbell

    Help for Struggling Timeshare Owners... Timeshare Traveler Episode 187

    This video is for all the people who bought a timeshare and then realized they don't know how to use it. They are often angry at the timehare companies and themselves for caving in to the pressure from the timeshare salesperson. They might have considered dumping the timeshare. If any of...
  8. Clifbell

    Ritz Carlton Club San Francisco Two Bedroom Review

    Today I am reviewing the Ritz Carlton Club two bedroom in San Francisco, California. This property is located in the center of Downtown San Francisco. This is the first Ritz Carlton property that I have stayed in. The two bedroom is extremely opulent. Every part of the unit is first class...
  9. Clifbell

    What I like about Marriott ABOUND... Timeshare Traveler Episode 186

    For many peoiple who don't own timeshares, learning about the good parts of the timeshare from a timeshare salesperson can be misleading. So, I decided to create a video of the parts of ABOUND that I like. This comes from a person who has years of timeshare experience. and has practical...
  10. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 174... Is Timeshare Industry Consolidation Good?

    With the recent announcement by Hilton to purchase Bluegreen, the timeshare industry consolidation continues to grow. In the last five years we have seen Hilton buy two timeshare companies, Marriott by one and Club Wyndham buy a travel company. In this video, I will recap the recent purchases...
  11. Clifbell

    Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort One Bedroom Ocean View in Ka'anapali Maui Hawaii

    About 30 miles from the Main Airport in Maui sits the wonderful Westin Ka'anapali OceanResort near Ka'napali now part of Marriott Vacation Club. The Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort is a huge resort area filled with lush tropical gardens that are a pleasure to stroll through. I stayed in a one...
  12. Clifbell

    Westin Nanea One Bedroom In Kaanapali Maui Hawaii

    About 30 miles from the Main Airport in Maui sits the wonderful Westin Nanea near Ka'napali now part of Marriott Vacation Club. The Westin Nanea is a huge resort area filled with lush tropical gardens that are a pleasure to stroll through. I stayed in a one bedroom with an wonderful deck with...
  13. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 168... ABOUND Owner update October 2023

    Just had my first owner update with Marriott. I had a great salesperson in Abe. He provided me with some great options.... At the end of the day, I could not get past the 12% increase in maintenance fees. There are some interesting options but I just could get past the increase this year...
  14. Clifbell

    Marriott's Kauai Lagoon Two Bedroom Review in Lihue Kauai Hawaii

    Located in the Lihue area on the island Kauai in the state of Hawaii (10 minutes away from the Lihue airport) is where you will find the amazing Marriott Kauai Lagoon as part of the Marriott Vacation Club timeshare. The property is extensive and feature a main pool with a smaller pool on an...
  15. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 167... The value of Timeshare Marketing Packages

    You own a timeshare, so you will be doing owner updates... It is a fact of timeshare life. Since you are in this environment, then you might as well take advantage of the situation... I am about to embark on a three week vacation to Hawaii... Of those 21 days, 12 of them are on two makring...
  16. Clifbell

    One Bedroom Residence Inn Fairfield review in Fairfield Ca

    Located in Fairfield which is about one hour from San Francisco sits the residence Inn by Marriott. The Residence Inn has many of the same features as a timeshare but also free breakfasts like a hotel... I call this "timeshare Lite" since it has a full kitchen yet does not require timeshare...
  17. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 165... Key Competitive Strategies for Hilton, Marriott, & Club Wyndham

    The Holidays are coming and this means that all the resorts will be full... And that means there will be many Owner updates and presentation to new potential owners... So, in preparation, I wanted to provide a comparison of the three timeshare groups I own. I am an elite member with Worldmaek...
  18. C

    Westin flex conversion to mvc abound club points

    Does anyone now how much 20000 voi westin flex points is worth in mvc club points if coverted from vistana to abound (this is ztanard/min blocj size of flex that can be converted in 1 year to club points) Or is there a standard westin flex to club points conversion ratio for westin flex to...
  19. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 164... Timeshare Traveler is Bearish on Marriott Vacation Club

    I was shocked to get my annual maintenance fees and see a 15% increase in my Vistana Maintenance. I then had a sigh of relief that I didn't buy any more Marriott / Vistana. And then came the sarcastic thoughts about ABOUND not being about More vacations but MORE maintenance costs. But this...
  20. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 154... Top 5 Ways to Use Your Timeshare Points

    In this video, I wanted to share my top uses for my timeshare points... In general, I rank the usage of my points based on the most value for each point I spend. A general rule is that if two companies are involved, then there are two sets of profits which means your points will be diluted...
  21. S

    Best value outside of Mexico

    Hey Aloha, Could someone please either direct me to the best thread for my question or please answer, what is the best Westin resale (price per point / MF per point) outside of Lagunamar? Owning in Mexico is nerve racking to me, whether unfounded or not. Also, things keep changing and it's...
  22. Clifbell

    One Bedroom Residence Inn Vacaville Ca

    Located in Vacaville which is about half way between Sacramento and San Francisco sits the residence Inn by Marriott. The Residence Inn has many of the same features as a timeshare but also free breakfasts like a hotel... I call this "timeshare Lite" since it has a full kitchen yet does not...
  23. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 144... Interval International expands your choices

    Another way to extend your points is with the use of Interval International. With Interval International you can deposit your points into Interval and they will have an additional two years to be used within the Interval network. Marriott Vacation Club and Worldmark Have access to Interval...
  24. tourproto

    Confused about Abound

    So I am a longtime Vistana owner and have several weeks at WKV. I know the Vistana system well and there are only three properties we stay at (WKV, Westin Desert Willows and Westin Princeville). The Abound program is very confusing to me, both from what benefits it provides existing Vistana...
  25. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 129... Weighing the Benefits and Risks of Timeshares

    I wanted to create a video to help people start out their journey to owning timeshares in the most positive way. I've owned timeshares for over a decade and am an elite member with Hilton, Marriott, and Worldmark. I've and experienced a lot and want to share my approach to successfully owning...
  26. Julian926

    Star options to Abound to get March 2024 Hawaii

    I have 81k in star options. I'm trying to get at least 10 nights in Maui in the later part of March in 2024. Since this time is high season for Maui (WKORN), would it make sense to convert this to Abound points in March and borrow from the next year to have a chance for March 2024? (assuming...
  27. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 121... Timeshares 2022 in Review

    After finally getting back to business after the Covid crisis began to subside, there were significant upgrades and changes in the timeshare industry that happened in 2022 that will grow and evolve in 2023. In this Video, I wanted to discuss those changes and the impacts going forward. The...
  28. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 119... Timeshare Winners and Losers in 2023

    Which timeshare company made the best investment in past years to gain the most in 2023. I will be reviewing three timeshare companies... Hilton, Marriott, and Wyndham / Worldmark to provide you with insight based on my year of timeshare travel and my experienced gains. The impacts of the...
  29. Clifbell

    Timeshare Traveler Episode 118... How I Earned 132 Free Nights in 2022

    This video is my annual look back at last year and how many free hotel nights I earned by attending presentations, using my credit cards for every day purchases, and paying maintenance fees with credit cards, etc... This year (2022) was made special because I was living full time in timeshares...
  30. L

    Relinquish point value chart for Marriott legacy weeks

    Hi all You guys do such a great job of compiling data. I was wondering if there is any data on how many points (Abound/Destion club) Marriott gives for each week an owner turns in. In other words, we have a platinum, 2 bedroom, lock off at Grand Vista. If we turn it in for the club points...
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