Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[e.bram]

Just stealing my Newport Overlook week!

 

[e.bram]

Newport Overlook is in great condition.
It does not need a major overall.

 

[e.bram]

This is the end season area timeshares!

 

[HitchHiker71]

@HitchHiker71 There is an attachment in the quoted post. I think this may need to be updated in the tracker. I don't even see this association listed. I also think Oak Knoll vote date is incorrect. Should be 10/10 per post #2931. Laurel Ridge may be incorrect too, but not sure.

I will take a look first thing tomorrow and update the tracker accordingly.


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[shawnee83]

I just noticed this in a message from Wyndham:

Owners in good standing at these transitioned resorts will be offered the opportunity to swap their current inventory for equivalent Club Wyndham Access points at no cost to the owner. This way, owners can continue to enjoy their ownership benefits, or they may choose to receive their share of the sale proceeds for their ownership interest.

That full message is posted at the beginning of this thread but I'll post the URL here also: Important Resorts Update The website doesn't show a date but we were given a copy at a sales pitch in early August.

Anyway I found that worth reposting because it does lay out the ultimate end game. Sorry if everyone else already knew this but it was something I was trying to nail down.

 

[gerena]

I married into a timeshare at Bentley Brook that my wife signed into on her honeymoon in her previous marriage. They weren't even at BB when they got roped into signing and she's never been there. It's been the one item that couldn't be resolved well in her divorce since Wyndham consistently ghosted them whenever the process got close to getting her name off of the deed - and the maintenance fees. I had come to terms with the idea that we would have this around our neck forever...

Now we get a literal "golden ticket" in the mail (the ballot to vote is yellow) and I am astonished and very pleased with the opportunity to get out of this BS. Sorry for everyone that likes having this timeshare, but since it was a scam from the start for my wife and her ex I am just looking forward to parting ways with Wyndham.

I do have a question though - we have a couple of vacations that used saved up RCI points scheduled for next year (Feb and June). My wife's ex had been paying the fees until we took over this year and there were a bunch of points in RCI, so I made use of them. I'm an AirBnB and VRBO master, but I made this work and am looking forward to the trips. If we get the hoped for result of not paying maintenance fees in 2026, would that impact these RCI reservations? Would hate to arrive and be told that our points no longer apply.

My question is similar. We have fixed weeks, but bank with RCI rather than going to the home resort 4 times a year. I just combined lots of trading power into RCI. will i still be able to use this. Another thought—should i put all my weeks available for trade into RCI.

I looked into some of the Wyndham resorts last night — Fairfield Glade (we own) , etc. cannon not book past Drc 27 thru RCI.

 

[dioxide45]

Happy to make the ask yes. I'll also confirm if there are actually use cases like this - or if our assumptions are incorrect here. In other words, are there Wyndham intervals at Star Island that are not part of the exit process? I for one don't think there are - I think Wyndham is exiting entirely, I just think folks here are getting confused somehow. But, it's worth asking either way.

It seems the use case exists. It looks like @regatta333 owns in the Vacation Break HOA at Star Island with a unit in building 16. Here is that post. It seems this HOA is not part of the bankruptcy. That HOA is buildings 20, 21, 23 and 25 at Star Island. If Wyndham exits Star Island completely, the question is what happens to @regatta333 ownership? Could Wyndham provide a CWA swap? If so, where does their week go? If not, does it just convert back to a fixed week in Vacation Break?

 

[HitchHiker71]

@HitchHiker71 There is an attachment in the quoted post. I think this may need to be updated in the tracker. I don't even see this association listed. I also think Oak Knoll vote date is incorrect. Should be 10/10 per post #2931. Laurel Ridge may be incorrect too, but not sure.

Noted and edited accordingly.

 

[hjsweet2002]

I have a question about Bentley Brook, first heard of the bankruptcy a day ago from a reservation agent at the resort. Then came here to get the details. what I would like to know is will the resort be open after December and can people book into Bentley Brook after this bankruptcy is complete and potential sale? doesn't make sense to me that they would demolish it during peak ski season. The employee I talked to said they didn't know and were starting to look for jobs.
Thanks

The resort will be closed at the end of the year. No reservations will be honored after Dec 31 2025. There is a possibility that the resort will close on Dec 27th

 

[Marianne g]

The resort will be closed at the end of the year. No reservations will be honored after Dec 31 2025. There is a possibility that the resort will close on Dec 27th

Just asking where you got 12/27 as an end date? I ask as I had asked several times while there and was always told 12/31

 

[paxsarah]

Just asking where you got 12/27 as an end date? I ask as I had asked several times while there and was always told 12/31

Although 12/31 had been discussed for all these resorts early on, the wording for the closure date for most of the resorts whose HOA mailings I've seen actually have the resort closing (or no longer allowing reservations/occupancy) as of 12/27. I haven't seen Bentley Brook posted, but the answer would be in the documentation that was sent out by the HOA.

 

[shawnee83]

Just asking where you got 12/27 as an end date? I ask as I had asked several times while there and was always told 12/31

My letter for Shawnee says they will "suspend occupancy" on 27 December 2025. That's a Saturday and fixed week owners check in on Saturdays. Wyndham owners can check in whenever they like but I think the letter I received is intended for legacy fixed week Shawnee owners.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Just asking where you got 12/27 as an end date? I ask as I had asked several times while there and was always told 12/31

It's part of the form letter being used by all resorts from the law firm representing all HOAs for these actions - the HOA BOD ultimately determines the final date:

 

[HitchHiker71]

My letter for Shawnee says they will "suspend occupancy" on 27 December 2025. That's a Saturday and fixed week owners check in on Saturdays. Wyndham owners can check in whenever they like but I think the letter I received is intended for legacy fixed week Shawnee owners.

We have a reservation at Crestview from 12/19-12/26 this year - should be interesting...

 

[paxsarah]

We have a reservation at Crestview from 12/19-12/26 this year - should be interesting...

Human test case!

 

[HitchHiker71]

It seems the use case exists. It looks like @regatta333 owns in the Vacation Break HOA at Star Island with a unit in building 16. Here is that post. It seems this HOA is not part of the bankruptcy. That HOA is buildings 20, 21, 23 and 25 at Star Island. If Wyndham exits Star Island completely, the question is what happens to @regatta333 ownership? Could Wyndham provide a CWA swap? If so, where does their week go? If not, does it just convert back to a fixed week in Vacation Break?

Got it. We also learned from this post that Vacation Break was acquired by Cendant way back in the day, and to the best of my understanding is a wholly owned subsidiary of Travel & Leisure. So it's interesting that, assuming we are all correct here, while Club Wyndham is exiting Star Island, T&L actually still owns the Vacation Break inventory, some of which, as we've seen with other acquired timeshare entities like Shell Vacation Club, is converted into Club Wyndham points (whether via a converted fixed week as was the case here - or via CWA as was the case for SVC owners since SVC didn't sell deeded contracts from what I understand).

 

[gerena]

Noted and edited accordingly.

I still haven’t received a letter from Laurel Ridge at FF Glade.

Got my two letters from Oak Knoll only two days ago, which seems the norm.

I can’t believe they are only giving us less than a week to proxy. To access the ZOOM meeting I have to provide my member number etc for proof. Well that is impossible as it is in my files at home in Indiana and I’m at Shawnee in PA

 

[Greg G]

Got it. We also learned from this post that Vacation Break was acquired by Cendant way back in the day, and to the best of my understanding is a wholly owned subsidiary of Travel & Leisure. So it's interesting that, assuming we are all correct here, while Club Wyndham is exiting Star Island, T&L actually still owns the Vacation Break inventory, some of which, as we've seen with other acquired timeshare entities like Shell Vacation Club, is converted into Club Wyndham points (whether via a converted fixed week as was the case here - or via CWA as was the case for SVC owners since SVC didn't sell deeded contracts from what I understand).

I asked Star Island the following:

"Another question, although I am not affected by it, for owners that are not part of the bankruptcy (not in bldgs 20,21,23 and 25) but who are part of Wyndham system (have Wyndham points, or are in the Wyndham system) what is the plan by Wynham for them? Will Wyndham still have a small presence at Star Island for those cases? Possibly you don't have the visibility to answer this but I thought I would ask."

Star Island's response:

"Thank you for your email.

You are of course talking about Vacation Break. In Vacation Break, Vacation Break deeded owners were offered the opportunity to upgrade to Wyndham points. Provided they pay the necessary annual fees to Wyndham, Vacation Break owners can participate in the Wyndham system. If they do not, their ownership reverts back to deeded ownership.

While we cannot speak for Wyndham, we can provide you with what has been communicated to the Vacation Break Association. Vacation Break owners who have converted to Wyndham points, we have been told, will not lose this right. Moreover, Vacation Break inventory that has been deposited for exchange will be available for incoming RCI and Wyndham guests. In other words, Vacation Break at Star Island will still receive incoming RCI and Wyndham guests. It is our understanding, though we were not on the call, this was communicated to owners within the Wyndham Association at Star Island."

So this confirms that Wyndham will still have a presence at Star Island. Way back in time when I was offered the chance to convert to Wyndham points I did not. However it appears @regatta333 did or obtained a unit that was already converted.

 

[dioxide45]

I asked Star Island the following:

"Another question, although I am not affected by it, for owners that are not part of the bankruptcy (not in bldgs 20,21,23 and 25) but who are part of Wyndham system (have Wyndham points, or are in the Wyndham system) what is the plan by Wynham for them? Will Wyndham still have a small presence at Star Island for those cases? Possibly you don't have the visibility to answer this but I thought I would ask."

Star Island's response:

"Thank you for your email.

You are of course talking about Vacation Break. In Vacation Break, Vacation Break deeded owners were offered the opportunity to upgrade to Wyndham points. Provided they pay the necessary annual fees to Wyndham, Vacation Break owners can participate in the Wyndham system. If they do not, their ownership reverts back to deeded ownership.

While we cannot speak for Wyndham, we can provide you with what has been communicated to the Vacation Break Association. Vacation Break owners who have converted to Wyndham points, we have been told, will not lose this right. Moreover, Vacation Break inventory that has been deposited for exchange will be available for incoming RCI and Wyndham guests. In other words, Vacation Break at Star Island will still receive incoming RCI and Wyndham guests. It is our understanding, though we were not on the call, this was communicated to owners within the Wyndham Association at Star Island."

So this confirms that Wyndham will still have a presence at Star Island. Way back in time when I was offered the chance to convert to Wyndham points I did not. However it appears @regatta333 did or obtained a unit that was already converted.

Thanks for reaching out and getting this answer. It seems that with Vacation Break, Wyndham (then Cendant) did acquire the company but it would seem that much of the inventory in that HOA was already sold to deeded week owners and Wyndham never regained enough ownership to control the HOA/BOD to influence the votes we are seeing today. Did Wyndham ever accepted Vacation Break weeks back through Certified Exit? Perhaps CE owns a certain number of weeks at Vacation Break in addition to converted weeks?

 

[HitchHiker71]

Received proxy forms for a OIRC September 10 Special Meeting. Purpose is "for the members to discuss and vote on whether to authorize the Board of Directors to take all necessary or appropriate actions to (i) suspend occupancy at the resort by members, guests and others as of December 31, 2025 (or shortly after as deemed necessary or proper by the Board of Directors; (ii) suspend collection of 2026 maintenance fees; (iii) waive the funding of reserves for 2026 pursuant to Section 721.13(3)(c)3., Florida Statutes; (iv) refund to members 2026 maintenance fees received by the association; (v) immediately suspend reservations at the resort subsequent to December 31, 2025; and (vi) pursuant to Section 721.13(3)(c)2., Florida Statutes, transfer reserve funds of the Association in the amount of $4,595,367 to pay operating expenses and costs of the Association as set forth in any approved budget for the Association. [emphasis mine]

Edit: The August 5 Special Meeting decided three questions (file Chapter 11, retain professionals, and further actions). The lowest percentage of Yes Votes was 98.74%. So it really doesn't matter if or how any particular (non-corporate) owner votes.

Any updates to share on the OIRC item? Given this was the first resort to use the now established process - curious where it stands. @robbie0001 anything on your end?

 

[Greg G]

Thanks for reaching out and getting this answer. It seems that with Vacation Break, Wyndham (then Cendant) did acquire the company but it would seem that much of the inventory in that HOA was already sold to deeded week owners and Wyndham never regained enough ownership to control the HOA/BOD to influence the votes we are seeing today. Did Wyndham ever accepted Vacation Break weeks back through Certified Exit? Perhaps CE owns a certain number of weeks at Vacation Break in addition to converted weeks?

That I don't know.

 

[comicbookman]

Thanks for reaching out and getting this answer. It seems that with Vacation Break, Wyndham (then Cendant) did acquire the company but it would seem that much of the inventory in that HOA was already sold to deeded week owners and Wyndham never regained enough ownership to control the HOA/BOD to influence the votes we are seeing today. Did Wyndham ever accepted Vacation Break weeks back through Certified Exit? Perhaps CE owns a certain number of weeks at Vacation Break in addition to converted weeks?

Good information, one minor correction. Vacation break was acquired by Fairfield, before Cendant. Likely whatever was intended with it got lost when Cendant took over.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Thanks for reaching out and getting this answer. It seems that with Vacation Break, Wyndham (then Cendant) did acquire the company but it would seem that much of the inventory in that HOA was already sold to deeded week owners and Wyndham never regained enough ownership to control the HOA/BOD to influence the votes we are seeing today. Did Wyndham ever accepted Vacation Break weeks back through Certified Exit? Perhaps CE owns a certain number of weeks at Vacation Break in addition to converted weeks?

I can make the ask on Friday as to developer based ownerships within the Vacation Break section, but I doubt I'll get an answer. I can also ask if there is any intent to take similar actions for the VB section of Star Island as what we're seeing with the Wyndham owned sections already.

 

[paxsarah]

I asked Star Island the following:

"Another question, although I am not affected by it, for owners that are not part of the bankruptcy (not in bldgs 20,21,23 and 25) but who are part of Wyndham system (have Wyndham points, or are in the Wyndham system) what is the plan by Wynham for them? Will Wyndham still have a small presence at Star Island for those cases? Possibly you don't have the visibility to answer this but I thought I would ask."

Star Island's response:

"Thank you for your email.

You are of course talking about Vacation Break. In Vacation Break, Vacation Break deeded owners were offered the opportunity to upgrade to Wyndham points. Provided they pay the necessary annual fees to Wyndham, Vacation Break owners can participate in the Wyndham system. If they do not, their ownership reverts back to deeded ownership.

While we cannot speak for Wyndham, we can provide you with what has been communicated to the Vacation Break Association. Vacation Break owners who have converted to Wyndham points, we have been told, will not lose this right. Moreover, Vacation Break inventory that has been deposited for exchange will be available for incoming RCI and Wyndham guests. In other words, Vacation Break at Star Island will still receive incoming RCI and Wyndham guests. It is our understanding, though we were not on the call, this was communicated to owners within the Wyndham Association at Star Island."

So this confirms that Wyndham will still have a presence at Star Island. Way back in time when I was offered the chance to convert to Wyndham points I did not. However it appears @regatta333 did or obtained a unit that was already converted.

Interesting. I could swear that I checked Star Island on the Club Wyndham website a few days ago and it had the same boilerplate banner as currently on Orlando International, "A recent vote determined this resort will cease operations and close at the end of the year. We encourage you to check out alternative locations in the greater Orlando area." But the banner's not there now - so I wonder if someone at Wyndham realized that's not actually the case at Star Island.

 

[hjsweet2002]

Just asking where you got 12/27 as an end date? I ask as I had asked several times while there and was always told 12/31

It is only a possibility. Some of the other resorts are asking for closure on Dec 27 at their HOA meetings. The 27th is a Sat and possibly the beginning of a new week that would go into 2026. Definitely no availability after Dec 31st