HGV Cancelled my entire membership when I rescinded my last purchase.

[kanerf]

There is an 8160 point contract at The District on eBay right now. The seller is paying most of the fees, so it looks like a good deal for someone. Opening bid is $1 and there are no bidders yet.

 

[Eric B]

There's also an EOYO 8160 at The District for $1 at https://www.timesharebrokersmls.com/Listing/The_District_by_Hilton_Club/58076.html that includes the 2025 points. It doesn't say whether they're looking for reimbursement for the maintenance fees but it looks like they're just trying to dump it.

 

[HuskerATL]

There is an 8160 point contract at The District on eBay right now. The seller is paying most of the fees, so it looks like a good deal for someone. Opening bid is $1 and there are no bidders yet.

I am not sure why anyone would want to own at The District. It is high MF/pt and typically easy to book unless they go there often and want lounge access...but other than that, I don't see any reason to own there.

 

[Eric B]

I am not sure why anyone would want to own at The District. It is high MF/pt and typically easy to book unless they go there often and want lounge access...but other than that, I don't see any reason to own there.

The MFs are relatively good for bHC points compared to those in NYC, at least for the platinum weeks. Of course, the value of that depends on the fungibility of bHC points.

 

[HuskerATL]

The MFs are relatively good for bHC points compared to those in NYC, at least for the platinum weeks. Of course, the value of that depends on the fungibility of bHC points.

bHC MF/pt tend to be much higher than HGVC MF/pt. I can book The District with HGVC points within 89 days via the HGV portal or further out via RCI so unless it is for lounge access or the HH 1:32 conversion, then I would be reluctant to own there.

 

[brp]

bHC MF/pt tend to be much higher than HGVC MF/pt. I can book The District with HGVC points within 89 days via the HGV portal or further out via RCI so unless it is for lounge access or the HH 1:32 conversion, then I would be reluctant to own there.

Also the ability to purchase AI for unlimited free reservations.

Cheers.

 

[HuskerATL]

Also the ability to purchase AI for unlimited free reservations.

Cheers.

that is true...if you aren't already Elite Premier or in Max.

 

[brp]

that is true...if you aren't already Elite Premier or in Max.

Yup. And many of us have not sprung for the direct purchase price or purchased on Scotland in order to receive status.

Cheers.

 

[HuskerATL]

Yup. And many of us have not sprung for the direct purchase price or purchased on Scotland in order to receive status.

Cheers.

or bought a NYC or The District resale...or some others, that have accidently triggered Max.

 

[BingoBangoBongo]

bHC MF/pt tend to be much higher than HGVC MF/pt. I can book The District with HGVC points within 89 days via the HGV portal or further out via RCI so unless it is for lounge access or the HH 1:32 conversion, then I would be reluctant to own there.

I own and EOY Platinum 1BR at the District and although I have a family reason to stay there, as @brp has shared it is an economical way to get AI. Even makes more sense to own the EOY there just because of that. I also enjoy the owners lounge there too. Have not and likely will never use my Home Week there. The cost per point for my District deed this year are just under $.14/point. Combined with my other deeds, my average cost per point is around $.116/point.

The one issue I ran into buying there were some fairly high Closing Costs on the first deed I looked at. I ended up finding one through SMTN and the Closing Costs were lower and the process was quick and smooth. They even gave me a rebate for the paperwork being returned within a set number of days.

YMMV

 

[brp]

or bought a NYC or The District resale...or some others, that have accidently triggered Max.

I haven't read in detail, but I thought that the "accidentally triggered Max" was only happening as a downgrade to people who had Elite and were getting shafted, not never-had-any-status sum like us.

In any event, yeah, luck and "bank error in your favor" are great, but not a solid strategy.

Maxel Tov, though, to those who got so lucky.

Cheers.

 

[Eric B]

bHC MF/pt tend to be much higher than HGVC MF/pt. I can book The District with HGVC points within 89 days via the HGV portal or further out via RCI so unless it is for lounge access or the HH 1:32 conversion, then I would be reluctant to own there.

I wouldn't use it for the 1:32 conversion - The District platinum is ~$0.14/pt, which works out to $0.0044/HH pt; gold would wind up being ~$0.0062/HH pt. It's not terrible but not great when compared to nominal values for HH pts of $0.0063 (I've done much better using them but that's what they seem to be worth based on the world wide webs sites that provide valuations). My comment was based on the fungibility of bHC points, which would let an owner make a reservation at a different bHC resort (e.g., the NYC ones) they own in the home resort period.

 

[HuskerATL]

I haven't read in detail, but I thought that the "accidentally triggered Max" was only happening as a downgrade to people who had Elite and were getting shafted, not never-had-any-status sum like us.

In any event, yeah, luck and "bank error in your favor" are great, but not a solid strategy.

Maxel Tov, though, to those who got so lucky.

Cheers.

I think that it has happened randomly for anyone...not just elite. I think the elite premier folks don't want it though...and they are very unhappy about the switch.

 

[HuskerATL]

I wouldn't use it for the 1:32 conversion - The District platinum is ~$0.14/pt, which works out to $0.0044/HH pt; gold would wind up being ~$0.0062/HH pt. It's not terrible but not great when compared to nominal values for HH pts of $0.0063 (I've done much better using them but that's what they seem to be worth based on the world wide webs sites that provide valuations). My comment was based on the fungibility of bHC points, which would let an owner make a reservation at a different bHC resort (e.g., the NYC ones) they own in the home resort period.

to me, basically none of those conversions make sense when you do the math. It may be able to come close to making sense if you have a very low MF/pt, 1:32, and use the 5 nights for 4...maybe.

 

[Eric B]

to me, basically none of those conversions make sense when you do the math. It may be able to come close to making sense if you have a very low MF/pt, 1:32, and use the 5 nights for 4...maybe.

Pretty much agree with the sentiment. I have found a couple of hotels that would yield good value, mostly in the Waldorf Astoria or SLH brands, but there isn't really a compelling case for buying a timeshare to use as anything besides a timeshare.

 

[dayooper]

I think that it has happened randomly for anyone...not just elite. I think the elite premier folks don't want it though...and they are very unhappy about the switch.

I believe that eventually, everyone will be Max and there will no longer a Legacy system. The old Elite status will be converted into the corresponding Max Tier level. It will be too difficult for HGV IT to keep up and it will be more cost effective to just make everyone Max. I don't think that it will happen soon, but as more and more people purchase new and the Legacy owners don't upgrade, it won't be worth the while to have 2 separate systems. Eventually, that $100 increase in club dues will make it worthwhile once all of us Legacy owners show that we aren't purchasing. Throw in the DRI/HVC increase in dues and you have a constant, every year money maker.

 

[HuskerATL]

I believe that eventually, everyone will be Max and there will no longer a Legacy system. The old Elite status will be converted into the corresponding Max Tier level. It will be too difficult for HGV IT to keep up and it will be more cost effective to just make everyone Max. I don't think that it will happen soon, but as more and more people purchase new and the Legacy owners don't upgrade, it won't be worth the while to have 2 separate systems. Eventually, that $100 increase in club dues will make it worthwhile once all of us Legacy owners show that we aren't purchasing. Throw in the DRI/HVC increase in dues and you have a constant, every year money maker.

I agree...but they may have to hire some more interns to make it work...

the club rules say that elite and Max can end anytime with or without notice.

I guess that we need to continue to build the number of elite members to make sure that they see it as a worthwhile subset of owners....versus a dwindling one.

 

[mountainboy]

I agree...but they may have to hire some more interns to make it work...

the club rules say that elite and Max can end anytime with or without notice.

I guess that we need to continue to build the number of elite members to make sure that they see it as a worthwhile subset of owners....versus a dwindling one.

+1 here
(+ encouraging many others to do the same, IF that makes sense, for their use case/budget/travel/lifestyle).
Love EP at HGVC (via CL)!
(I will not buy a bHC to jeopardize my EP...)

 

[brp]

We'll just stay HGVC Peon level and use the All Inclusive from our bHC. No need for Elite or Max.

Cheers.

 

[HuskerATL]

Elite Premier brings a lot more than just free reservations though....

 

[mountainboy]

Elite Premier brings a lot more than just free reservations though....

+DeX (via CL)...