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[MERGED] Airbnb & Wyndham Targeting Wyndham Timeshare Owners Who Rent on the AIRBNB Platform

"Like I mentioned before of what I overheard the front desk commenting on the multi billion purchase of all the rental sites... VRBO.. REDWEEK..ETC...Does anyone know if this is true?"

I made a post , above , a while back and everyone seems to think this was an impossible task and highly unlikely... Maybe this is what they were talking about...

What they're talking about would be the purchase of Travel and Leisure. Wyndham can set the terms if any of those rental sites want access to advertising/marketing through T&L. That purchase of T&L was a very well thought out and long teaching plan as we are now discovering.
 
You have a source for this information? Wyndham employees buying resales for themselves or are they buying for Wyndham? It makes no sense that Wyndham would buy anything as they can take back for free with thier exit program. It also is more profitable for Wyndham if they sell it at $200/1000 points.

It's long been known that Wyndham would buy stuff through certain intermediaries. This isn't speculation. There are owners/no longer owners who did business with them.

We don't know if Wyndham's still doing that but why wouldn't they if there's contracts being sold at resorts they want more inventory for?

As both Hitchhiker and I have discussed over the past few years Wyndham is making a major move to prepare for the future of timesharing. Also keep in mind that when Wyndham/CWA owns the controlling interest at resort they then control the boards at those resorts and ensure they retain the management of those resorts. Management of resorts is hugely profitable for Wyndham.
 
What they're talking about would be the purchase of Travel and Leisure. Wyndham can set the terms if any of those rental sites want access to advertising/marketing through T&L. That purchase of T&L was a very well thought out and long teaching plan as we are now discovering.

What they were specifically talking about was redweek, vrbo etc… this was 3 + years ago.. I didn’t think that was / is part of travel and leisure.. but then again I haven’t kept up with all of that..
 
What they were specifically talking about was redweek, vrbo etc… this was 3 + years ago.. I didn’t think that was / is part of travel and leisure.. but then again I haven’t kept up with all of that..

They could buy Redweek. But VRBO is part of the Expedia group, which is worth ~4-5x what Travel and Leisure/Wyndham is worth. They don't have enough money to buy it. And airbnb is worth ~130 billion compared to about $5 billion for Wyndham/Travel&Leisure.
 
Yes, I have a source and I can tell you 100% Wyndham Employees are buying on Ebay to sell to their clients and also they buy contracts to rent as well.
 
You have a source for this information? Wyndham employees buying resales for themselves or are they buying for Wyndham? It makes no sense that Wyndham would buy anything as they can take back for free with thier exit program. It also is more profitable for Wyndham if they sell it at $200/1000 points.
Yes, I have a source and I can tell you 100% Wyndham Employees are buying on Ebay to sell to their clients and also they buy contracts to rent as well.
 
"Like I mentioned before of what I overheard the front desk commenting on the multi billion purchase of all the rental sites... VRBO.. REDWEEK..ETC...Does anyone know if this is true?"

I made a post , above , a while back and everyone seems to think this was an impossible task and highly unlikely... Maybe this is what they were talking about...
I would believe it and I am not surprised, Wyndham has tried every avenue to shut down renters. Sites are already coughing up info to Wyndham, they must be shelling out some big dollars
 
It's long been known that Wyndham would buy stuff through certain intermediaries. This isn't speculation. There are owners/no longer owners who did business with them.

We don't know if Wyndham's still doing that but why wouldn't they if there's contracts being sold at resorts they want more inventory for?

As both Hitchhiker and I have discussed over the past few years Wyndham is making a major move to prepare for the future of timesharing. Also keep in mind that when Wyndham/CWA owns the controlling interest at resort they then control the boards at those resorts and ensure they retain the management of those resorts. Management of resorts is hugely profitable for Wyndham.
Wyndham is still buying back through entities and they will continue
 
Yes, I have a source and I can tell you 100% Wyndham Employees are buying on Ebay to sell to their clients and also they buy contracts to rent as well.

I have also had contact with Wyndham employee became mega renter.. claiming it was more profitable than working at Wyndham. Then became points manager.. . I think a lot of mega renters were Wyndham employees.. and I think this was very well known..
 
I would believe it and I am not surprised, Wyndham has tried every avenue to shut down renters. Sites are already coughing up info to Wyndham, they must be shelling out some big dollars

I’m sure this site is also in the take of giving up information for anyone posting negative Wyndham posts.. Renting… etc..
 
I’m sure this site is also in the take of giving up information for anyone posting negative Wyndham posts.. Renting… etc..
You think this site is being paid for negative Wyndham posting info?
 
Big Tech-Airbnb selling information of Wyndham Owners on Airbnb's Platform if you opt in! If you own Wyndham Royal Vista, Wyndham Sea Gardens, Palm Aire or Wyndham Clearwater Beach and
utilize Airbnb's Platform there are some changes coming and here they're listed below.

Let's look at #1--What does this mean?
Wyndham Resorts as the management company has full control and they can approve or deny your listing.

#2-What does this mean?Program Administrator( Wyndham Resorts) has the authority to act on your behalf
You have to enroll or your listing is shut down
Revenue Share-You as a Wyndham Owner pay a revenue share to Wyndham Resorts the (Management Company) and that revenue share is not disclosed until you, OPT IN.


AIRBNB stock is doing well and the numbers look great but the truth is Airbnb has grown active listings just 5% and active hosts just 2% since January 2020. Is that enough
to sustain future growth? In my opinion, no. In my opinion AIRBNB will be turning to Hotels, Timeshare Resorts etc to expand growth for the future of their company.
People, that has already started and the first giant to enter the arena is Wyndham Destions, Wyndham Resorts. My big question is how can AIRBNB the Big Tech Giant
sell out Wyndham Timeshare Owners info & get away with it? If you're a Wyndham Owner it's imperative you read AIRBNB'S Terms of Use Policy!!!!! Do not Opt In
If you Opt In to This Building is Airbnb Friendly, all of your info will be sold to Wyndham.



1st Change.)
What is the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program?--
Airbnb Resident Hosting is a program through which select building owners or operators, and homeowners’ associations, have made their building(s) home-share friendly for tenants and unit owners who want to host on Airbnb. This means that your Program Administrator will give you their express support and collaboration for you to host on Airbnb as long as you: (i) agree to and comply with your Program Administrator’s rules (i.e., their Building Rules and the terms of your Program Administrator’s home-share lease addendum), and (ii) give them a Revenue Share (as defined below).



2nd Change.)v

Key Definitions
“Program Administrator” means either the owner(s) of an Accommodation, a homeowners’ association, and/or their agent (such as a building operator or property management company) who has the authority to act on behalf of, and to bind the owner(s) of an Accommodation, or the homeowners’ association.

“Participating Building” means a building enrolled in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program by its Program Administrator.

“Participating Listing” means a Listing in a Participating Building that has been enrolled in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program.

“Non-Participating Listing” means a Listing in a Participating Building that is not enrolled in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program.

“Nightly Rate” means the rate per night set by you for your Participating Listing, exclusive of any tax, additional Airbnb service fee, cleaning fee, or other additional service charges that may apply.

“Revenue Share” means the percentage of your revenue that you and your Program Administrator agree you will pay to your Program Administrator. The Revenue Share will be based on a percentage of the Nightly Rate, as well as (ii) applicable fees such as any cleaning fees or other fees you identify on your Listing, and/or (iii) applicable taxes to the extent that such fees and taxes are collected by Airbnb and remitted to you with your payouts, all as agreed between you and your Program Administrator. Revenue Share percentage and additional details will be displayed when you enroll in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program, and may be updated by your Program Administrator from time to time upon no less than thirty (30) days written notice.
 
Big Tech-Airbnb selling information of Wyndham Owners on Airbnb's Platform if you opt in! If you own Wyndham Royal Vista, Wyndham Sea Gardens, Palm Aire or Wyndham Clearwater Beach and
utilize Airbnb's Platform there are some changes coming and here they're listed below.

Let's look at #1--What does this mean?
Wyndham Resorts as the management company has full control and they can approve or deny your listing.

#2-What does this mean?Program Administrator( Wyndham Resorts) has the authority to act on your behalf
You have to enroll or your listing is shut down
Revenue Share-You as a Wyndham Owner pay a revenue share to Wyndham Resorts the (Management Company) and that revenue share is not disclosed until you, OPT IN.


AIRBNB stock is doing well and the numbers look great but the truth is Airbnb has grown active listings just 5% and active hosts just 2% since January 2020. Is that enough
to sustain future growth? In my opinion, no. In my opinion AIRBNB will be turning to Hotels, Timeshare Resorts etc to expand growth for the future of their company.
People, that has already started and the first giant to enter the arena is Wyndham Destions, Wyndham Resorts. My big question is how can AIRBNB the Big Tech Giant
sell out Wyndham Timeshare Owners info & get away with it? If you're a Wyndham Owner it's imperative you read AIRBNB'S Terms of Use Policy!!!!! Do not Opt In
If you Opt In to This Building is Airbnb Friendly, all of your info will be sold to Wyndham.



1st Change.)
What is the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program?--
Airbnb Resident Hosting is a program through which select building owners or operators, and homeowners’ associations, have made their building(s) home-share friendly for tenants and unit owners who want to host on Airbnb. This means that your Program Administrator will give you their express support and collaboration for you to host on Airbnb as long as you: (i) agree to and comply with your Program Administrator’s rules (i.e., their Building Rules and the terms of your Program Administrator’s home-share lease addendum), and (ii) give them a Revenue Share (as defined below).



2nd Change.)v

Key Definitions
“Program Administrator” means either the owner(s) of an Accommodation, a homeowners’ association, and/or their agent (such as a building operator or property management company) who has the authority to act on behalf of, and to bind the owner(s) of an Accommodation, or the homeowners’ association.

“Participating Building” means a building enrolled in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program by its Program Administrator.

“Participating Listing” means a Listing in a Participating Building that has been enrolled in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program.

“Non-Participating Listing” means a Listing in a Participating Building that is not enrolled in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program.

“Nightly Rate” means the rate per night set by you for your Participating Listing, exclusive of any tax, additional Airbnb service fee, cleaning fee, or other additional service charges that may apply.

“Revenue Share” means the percentage of your revenue that you and your Program Administrator agree you will pay to your Program Administrator. The Revenue Share will be based on a percentage of the Nightly Rate, as well as (ii) applicable fees such as any cleaning fees or other fees you identify on your Listing, and/or (iii) applicable taxes to the extent that such fees and taxes are collected by Airbnb and remitted to you with your payouts, all as agreed between you and your Program Administrator. Revenue Share percentage and additional details will be displayed when you enroll in the Airbnb Resident Hosting Program, and may be updated by your Program Administrator from time to time upon no less than thirty (30) days written notice.
Very interesting. I wonder if all Wyndham wants is a piece of the pie or is thier end game just to squeeze the renter out and have the whole pie?
 
I think Wyndham employees running businesses is a strange allegation to make. Understandable that they would see what is going on with mega renters and wanting a piece of that pie, but Wyndham wouldn't be okay with them doing that. I don't know if this is just a conspiracy theory or if Wyndham employees are exempt from the current rules or what is going on, but I am not believing it.
 
Wyndham's( Michael Browns) end game is to send out cease & desist letters to all owners Big & Small. Why, eliminate the Mega Renters along with scaring small owners so they turn in their timeshare ownership for peanuts, Wyndham gets back all their inventory and they start over with the new, Travel & Leisure name. Wyndham wants the whole pie.
 
You have a source for this information? Wyndham employees buying resales for themselves or are they buying for Wyndham? It makes no sense that Wyndham would buy anything as they can take back for free with thier exit program. It also is more profitable for Wyndham if they sell it at $200/1000 points.

They do both. For those who want to hand back inventory via CE - they do so. For those who would rather resell via a third party - Wyndham has agreements with many third party resellers to acquire their inventory through the third parties. They still get that inventory for pennies on the dollar and resell it at retail prices - so whether vie CE or via third party - Wyndham stands to make money.
 
There is already a lengthy thread on this topic on the first page of the Wyndham forum.
 
There is already a lengthy thread on this topic on the first page of the Wyndham forum.

FYI I merged the two threads on this topic into a single thread just now...
 
Wyndham's( Michael Browns) end game is to send out cease & desist letters to all owners Big & Small
Do you mean literally all owners, or all owners who rent?
 
Someone on here told me this a while back.." be careful of what you post because Wyndham knows everything".

Well that's a little on the paranoid side. Thank goodness this is an anonymous forum.
 
Someone on here told me this a while back.." be careful of what you post because Wyndham knows everything".
Why would you take that to mean that the administrators of this site would be feeding information to Wyndham? This entire site is public - Wyndham can come and see who's posting what, and I wouldn't be surprised if they've done so.
 
They could buy Redweek. But VRBO is part of the Expedia group, which is worth ~4-5x what Travel and Leisure/Wyndham is worth. They don't have enough money to buy it. And airbnb is worth ~130 billion compared to about $5 billion for Wyndham/Travel&Leisure.
Someone on here told me this a while back.." be careful of what you post because Wyndham knows everything".

Yes, Wyndham is infiltrating everything, we all know that.
 
I think Wyndham employees running businesses is a strange allegation to make. Understandable that they would see what is going on with mega renters and wanting a piece of that pie, but Wyndham wouldn't be okay with them doing that. I don't know if this is just a conspiracy theory or if Wyndham employees are exempt from the current rules or what is going on, but I am not believing it.


I am not sure if it is a conspiracy theory but was told it has happened...This was years ago when the whole audit thing occurred... I am sure they are not still in the mega renting but they are in the points manager business now...
 
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