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[MERGED] Airbnb & Wyndham Targeting Wyndham Timeshare Owners Who Rent on the AIRBNB Platform

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Airbnb is too hard to make work for timeshares. I was one and done for me.
 

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A bigger question, what is Wyndham doing with the information they may be receiving? While the terms seem to give AirBnB the right to disclose certain information, ti doesn't necessarily mean they do.
 

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trying to find commercial renters and close them down.
 

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trying to find commercial renters and close them down.
I suspect that is what they would want to do, perhaps what may have lead to some of the letters that went out earlier this year. Though I suspect that Wyndham has enough information from their own data that they really don't need tech companies like AirBnB to provide information.
 
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VRBO did this with Wyndham earlier this year and now they have expanded to AIRBNB. Michael Brown is on a mission to shut Mega Renters down'
and he also knows , Wyndham cannot compete with the ever growing Airbnb Platform so he got in bed with them.
 

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It is interesting that AirBnB is using some Club Wyndham resort and room photos on their listings. Are photos provided by the host and it is the host that is just shagging them from the Club Wyndham photos and providing them to AirBnB?
 

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It is interesting that AirBnB is using some Club Wyndham resort and room photos on their listings. Are photos provided by the host and it is the host that is just shagging them from the Club Wyndham photos and providing them to AirBnB?

Yes, photos are provided by the listing host. They Google for attractive photos of what they are renting out, and the commercial photos Wyndham provides are generally the most attractive.
 

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I suspect that is what they would want to do, perhaps what may have lead to some of the letters that went out earlier this year. Though I suspect that Wyndham has enough information from their own data that they really don't need tech companies like AirBnB to provide information.

True, Wyndham has the information but it some of it may be ambiguous. I could claim that a guest confirmation was provided to family members or friends, i.e., non-commercial.

Listings on Airbnb are unquestionably commercial. So are listings on RedWeek.com, Koala, etc., but without an agreement between Wyndham and the listing host, Wyndham can't reliably tie a listing to a particular owner. Hence, we may see additional agreements like the Wyndham-Airbnb agreement.

Wyndham's actions are becoming borderline tyrannical.
 

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I am not sure what AirBnB has to gain from such an arrangement? I mean they are turning their hosts in and in the end will lose quality listings at premier resorts. They don't get commission on listings they will no longer get. So how is Wyndham able to strong arm them into such an arrangement? Paying them for the data. I don't see AirBnB just handing the data over for free.
 

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I am sure Wyndham is paying them.
I hope it is a lot. Seems kind of short sighted. At some point Wyndham will no longer need the data and payment will stop. Then AirBnB has neither the payment or the owner to rent their unit.
 

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I would think that Wyndham would be interested in using AirBnB as a portal for their own rental program for non-hotel properties. The clientele using AirBnB is inclined toward those types of properties, not hotel rooms. It's also in many ways a younger demographic - I think of my kids who use AirBnB or VRBO for almost all of their travels, and would never go Wyndham to look for properties. So getting onto AirBnB gets Wyndham into a market they aren't reaching.

Also, if they start placing their rental inventory on AirBnB, that will generate sales leads for them in that same market/demographic, where they likely have little traction right now.

Of course, they also would like to shut down their owners who are commercially renting Wyndham on AirBnB, because those owners are now their competition.

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AS for AirBnB, it's just more of their continuing evolution from their beginnings as a hip site to link hosts and travelers into just another full service travel site, as they outgrow their original business model and local governments make that model increasingly difficult for AirBnB and the "hosts".
 

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I hope it is a lot. Seems kind of short sighted. At some point Wyndham will no longer need the data and payment will stop. Then AirBnB has neither the payment or the owner to rent their unit.

I agree with your "short-sighted" comment. Sooner or later, the milk cow goes dry.

I wonder what percentage of Airbnb's listings (or revenue) are from timeshares? The site certainly isn't timeshare-friendly. Maybe Airbnb isn't terribly concerned about the loss of some timeshare listings. Again, perhaps short-sighted but the less revenue from timeshares the less likely Airbnb would mourn its loss.
 
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Wyndham is going after every rental site out there to eliminate Mega Renters. Wyndham started a test market for rentals on VRBO and now they have expanded to AIRBNB and I am sure more sites will follow. It's the wrath of Michael Brown( he is the puppet master).
 
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A bigger question, what is Wyndham doing with the information they may be receiving? While the terms seem to give AirBnB the right to disclose certain information, ti doesn't necessarily mean they do.
Wyndham is paying AIRBNB, no doubt and the plan is for all timeshare owners to opt into their terms of service not knowing after that they're screwed and Wyndham is in control
 
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trying to find commercial renters and close them down.
That is correct, Sandy. They want AIRBNB to turn Wyndham Host Owners in and Brian Chesky wants $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Leave the Host behind and roll with the developers like Wyndham.
 
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A bigger question, what is Wyndham doing with the information they may be receiving? While the terms seem to give AirBnB the right to disclose certain information, ti doesn't necessarily mean they do.
Wyndham Owners will get a message to agree to the terms and most Owners will opt in not knowing they did it and they won't read any of the small print and that's what AIRBNB wants
 

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I believe this is connected to Travel and Leisure. There's a long game at play here.
 
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Yes, long play and another round of letters just got sent out to owners. Wyndham being Wyndham
Slowly creeping up on the others that still think they can rent.
 

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Yes, long play and another round of letters just got sent out to owners. Wyndham being Wyndham
Slowly creeping up on the others that still think they can rent.
Wyndham encouraged rentals to sell more points. What has changed?
 
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Nothing has changed, they still do it to this day. Wyndham employees are buying up resales on Ebay to rent.
 

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Nothing has changed, they still do it to this day. Wyndham employees are buying up resales on Ebay to rent.
You have a source for this information? Wyndham employees buying resales for themselves or are they buying for Wyndham? It makes no sense that Wyndham would buy anything as they can take back for free with thier exit program. It also is more profitable for Wyndham if they sell it at $200/1000 points.
 

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"Like I mentioned before of what I overheard the front desk commenting on the multi billion purchase of all the rental sites... VRBO.. REDWEEK..ETC...Does anyone know if this is true?"

I made a post , above , a while back and everyone seems to think this was an impossible task and highly unlikely... Maybe this is what they were talking about...
 
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