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How are TX Tuggers making out?

Interesting chart. Perhaps ERCO should consult with the Netherlands and Greenland about how to winterize their turbines because these cold-climate countries have figured it out.
 
Interesting chart. Perhaps ERCO should consult with the Netherlands and Greenland about how to winterize their turbines because these cold-climate countries have figured it out.

They can just call Canada. Its probably on their calling plan. LOL
 
The other options to build capacity during peak periods is to expand their nat gas generation for peak periods or join a grid to borrow during peak periods. The bottom line is that they didn't plan /invest for these events and the determination of which alternative is best to avoid future events will depend on the economics. I assume that joining a grid would be the most cost effective option but not sure if TX wants to go that route.
 
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This morning I talked to a friend who was staying at the RCI Brownsville location. Their temperatures have been just below freezing (for their daily lows) so I figured that they probably (although not necessarily) did not have much problem with lack of power. Wrong. They have power now, but did not have it for three days. In addition there was no water. I wondered about flushing toilets. People started taking buckets of water from the swimming pool for their toilets.
 
It is important to remember - there is not one chokepoint in this situation. There are failures at every level. Let me quote form the RBN blog.

"To state the obvious, prices are a function of both demand and supply, and this Arctic event has been a doozy for both sides of that equation. Not only have record electric generation and heating demand been competing for gas supply, particularly in the Central U.S., but supply has taken a big hit, as freezing temperatures and widespread power outages have led to extensive freeze-offs at the wellhead as well as other types of upstream and pipeline outages that have crippled producers’ ability to get volumes to market. Today our focus is on the factors that stifled production in some of the most resource-rich areas of the country.

Initial pipeline data as of early Tuesday indicates Lower-48 gas production is down a whopping 10.6 Bcf since Friday to 76.1 Bcf/d and down 15 Bcf/d from the recent high of 91.1 Bcf/d seen a week ago on Friday, February 5. At this level, production is also 18 Bcf (~20%) lower than this time last year and more than 5 Bcf/d below the 5-yr average."

"Natural gas wellhead freeze-offs — a phenomena where low temperatures crystallize the water produced along with natural gas, forcing blockages at the wellhead — happen when outside temperatures drop below freezing in producing fields. The consequences range from minor inconvenience to major reductions in natural gas production and power outages affecting millions of customers. From a scale of 1 to 10, you could say Texas’s trouble has been turned up to 11 in terms of gas supply and power failure."

Yes, wellheads can be hardened. But question, do you add the extra expense to protect from a once in every 50 year event on a well that has only, say, a 20 year lifetime? With low prices, it would come as no surprise that most firms said no. You want to fix it? Have the Texas Railroad Commission make methanol injection systems integral to every new well completion.

"There are several points at which freeze-offs are common and can block the gas flow, including: right at the wellhead pipe-and-valve “Christmas tree,” in the inlet scrubber or separator that splits out the gas, water and condensate streams, and again just as the gas exits the separator and flows into the gathering system. There are processes to keep the wellhead operational, including the removal of water and condensates that accumulate in limited onsite storage breakdown. But these systems can automatically shut down production flows if those storage tanks don’t drain and fill to capacity. Similarly, freeze-offs can worsen if operators aren’t able to replenish the chemicals that prevent condensation in the gathering systems."

Look at the numbers. Not enough gas - not enough electricity. Then if the power plants have freeze problems, even less electricity. In Texas, many (most?) homes are heated by natural gas. By law they get priority over power plants. When it's extraordinarily cold, the residential demand goes up - way up! Less gas for electricity. Rolling blackouts. Then permanent blackouts. But at least they are controlled blackouts, carefully chosen - maybe. And that's better than having the entire grid go down hard.

The critical infrastructure I'm near? A major sewage treatment plant. Kept warm and running. Forth Worth let theirs freeze - not considered critical enough. Guess who is now boiling their water - if they get any at all?

Wind didn't help - they had their own freeze-up problems (and nobody made them add all the winterizing add-ons when they were built, either). Solar? You don't get much from a panel cover with 4 inches of snow.

Now there is Nat Gas storage in Texas, but gas can only go in and out so fast. Nowhere near fast enough to make up for the Nat gas shortfalls.

Finally, we older Texans remember all the "help" federal regulations for the oil business back in the 1970's. Federal law limited most Texas oil to $2.65 cents a barrel - when the open market price was $20 - $30 - $40 dollars a barrel. Do we want the same sort of federal "help" in the electricity market?

As a 5th generation Native Texan, I reserve the right to rant back. . . .
 
It is important to remember - there is not one chokepoint in this situation. There are failures at every level. Let me quote form the RBN blog.

"To state the obvious, prices are a function of both demand and supply, and this Arctic event has been a doozy for both sides of that equation. Not only have record electric generation and heating demand been competing for gas supply, particularly in the Central U.S., but supply has taken a big hit, as freezing temperatures and widespread power outages have led to extensive freeze-offs at the wellhead as well as other types of upstream and pipeline outages that have crippled producers’ ability to get volumes to market. Today our focus is on the factors that stifled production in some of the most resource-rich areas of the country.

Initial pipeline data as of early Tuesday indicates Lower-48 gas production is down a whopping 10.6 Bcf since Friday to 76.1 Bcf/d and down 15 Bcf/d from the recent high of 91.1 Bcf/d seen a week ago on Friday, February 5. At this level, production is also 18 Bcf (~20%) lower than this time last year and more than 5 Bcf/d below the 5-yr average."

"Natural gas wellhead freeze-offs — a phenomena where low temperatures crystallize the water produced along with natural gas, forcing blockages at the wellhead — happen when outside temperatures drop below freezing in producing fields. The consequences range from minor inconvenience to major reductions in natural gas production and power outages affecting millions of customers. From a scale of 1 to 10, you could say Texas’s trouble has been turned up to 11 in terms of gas supply and power failure."

Yes, wellheads can be hardened. But question, do you add the extra expense to protect from a once in every 50 year event on a well that has only, say, a 20 year lifetime? With low prices, it would come as no surprise that most firms said no. You want to fix it? Have the Texas Railroad Commission make methanol injection systems integral to every new well completion.

"There are several points at which freeze-offs are common and can block the gas flow, including: right at the wellhead pipe-and-valve “Christmas tree,” in the inlet scrubber or separator that splits out the gas, water and condensate streams, and again just as the gas exits the separator and flows into the gathering system. There are processes to keep the wellhead operational, including the removal of water and condensates that accumulate in limited onsite storage breakdown. But these systems can automatically shut down production flows if those storage tanks don’t drain and fill to capacity. Similarly, freeze-offs can worsen if operators aren’t able to replenish the chemicals that prevent condensation in the gathering systems."

Look at the numbers. Not enough gas - not enough electricity. Then if the power plants have freeze problems, even less electricity. In Texas, many (most?) homes are heated by natural gas. By law they get priority over power plants. When it's extraordinarily cold, the residential demand goes up - way up! Less gas for electricity. Rolling blackouts. Then permanent blackouts. But at least they are controlled blackouts, carefully chosen - maybe. And that's better than having the entire grid go down hard.

The critical infrastructure I'm near? A major sewage treatment plant. Kept warm and running. Forth Worth let theirs freeze - not considered critical enough. Guess who is now boiling their water - if they get any at all?

Wind didn't help - they had their own freeze-up problems (and nobody made them add all the winterizing add-ons when they were built, either). Solar? You don't get much from a panel cover with 4 inches of snow.

Now there is Nat Gas storage in Texas, but gas can only go in and out so fast. Nowhere near fast enough to make up for the Nat gas shortfalls.

Finally, we older Texans remember all the "help" federal regulations for the oil business back in the 1970's. Federal law limited most Texas oil to $2.65 cents a barrel - when the open market price was $20 - $30 - $40 dollars a barrel. Do we want the same sort of federal "help" in the electricity market?

As a 5th generation Native Texan, I reserve the right to rant back. . . .


OK
Why would anyone need or want federal government "help" especially Older Native Texans
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/even-power-disasters-are-bigger-in-texas-heres-why/
 
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Watching the Evening News every official or politician in Texas is pointing at someone else.
 
Watching the Evening News every official or politician in Texas is pointing at someone else.

Or they’re just escaping to Cancun.


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I don't fault anyone for flying off to Cancun. I know I would.
But there are a great many people who don't have the luxury.
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I don't fault anyone for flying off to Cancun. I know I would.
But there are a great many people who don't have the luxury.
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I do fault someone abandoning their post representing People while People are literally freezing to death. Having the means to get somewhere warm is not the issue.
 
I don't fault anyone for flying off to Cancun. I know I would.
But there are a great many people who don't have the luxury.
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It seems foolish to stay in frozen Texas if someone has the means to leave.

We left cold Connecticut Jan 9 for southern Florida, missed two snow storms just this week.
 
When all the dust settles, I think it will be shown that the Texas deregulated electric power grid is the culprit. <snip>

I feel for the plight of the people of Texas. Clearly, it's an awful situation to have to endure in the 21st century in the United States.

That said, it is a indisputable fact that former Texas Governor Rick Perry (who, ironically and inexplicably, (..ahem) "served" as Secretary of the federal Department of Energy) has loudly and proudly (but perhaps not accurately) proclaimed in reference to the power grid:
"Texans would be without electricity for longer than three days to keep the federal government out of their business".
O.K., then. It is now 6 days (...and still counting) without electricity in some places in TX. Not to mention electricity costs of $9,000 per megawatt-hour o_O. What say ye now, Mr. Perry? Still loud and proud about that Feds-free (alleged) "energy independence" in Texas?

In view of current events, you really have to question the wisdom of purposefully choosing to be a "Lone Star" on the energy grid.
Electricity "imported" from other states (...if an option) could surely have helped to avoid a whole lot of hardship and suffering there.
 
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Outages Morph Into Outrage As Texans Slapped With "Mind-Blowing" Power Bills


 
Outages Morph Into Outrage As Texans Slapped With "Mind-Blowing" Power Bills



They made a bet and lost. Nobody put a gun to their heads and said "buy this plan". I have a fixed cost plan - even though it would cost a little more per month. (20% or so.)

That's why you buy insurance. Pay a little every years for protection from the cost of a huge catastrophic loss. Or you could do without, and pocket the money. Looks good, until that catastrophic loss hits you.

But there are always people who try to "pick up nickles" in front of a steam roller. . . .
 
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They made a bet and lost. Nobody put a gun to their heads and said "buy this plan". I have a fixed cost plan - even though it would cost a little more per month. (20% or so.)

That's why you buy insurance. Pay a little every years for protection from the cost of a huge catastrophic loss. Or you could do without, and pocket the money. Looks good, until that catastrophic loss hits you.

But there are always people who try to "pick up nickles" in front of a team roller. . . .

I did the same thing in July when my 6 month contract expired. Natural gas was at a low then about $1.60, now $3.10. Instead of taking 6 months electricity at about $9.40, I locked in $9.60 for 3 years.

In CT we can now have to take a fixed plan of at least 6 months after a huge jump in cost in the flexible plan one winter about 5 years ago.
 
Sometimes, I feel frozen in my recliner but then I wake up.

Sometimes, I feel frozen in my computer chair, and when I wake up, the screen saver's on.
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"... and in case you were wondering, OilPrice.com ran the numbers of how much it would cost to charge a Tesla in Texas earlier this week. While a regular charge costs around $18 using a Level 1 or Level 2 charger at home, estimates showed that the surge in power prices would have cost $900."

I'm guessing that electric cars are not selling in Texas now?
 
after blaming wind, solar and the green new deal!
...which are factors deserving blame in this matter as well.

Solving this - or better said, taking measures to ensure this combination of factors does not produce a similar outcome in the future - is not going to be easy.
The Texas power grid system, green energy sources, power companies and people all share the blame in this.

Now let's fix it.
 
...which are factors deserving blame in this matter as well.

Solving this - or better said, taking measures to ensure this combination of factors does not produce a similar outcome in the future - is not going to be easy.
The Texas power grid system, green energy sources, power companies and people all share the blame in this.

Now let's fix it.

The green energy sources were a problem because the TX authorities failed to invest in proper set-up. It's the people in charge that failed, not the tech. Greenland, Canada and Netherlands run just fine on wind power during frigid conditions.
 
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