Hawaii to require 14-day quarantine of incoming air passengers [merged]

[csodjd]

Right. The reason that’s interesting is the message is usually more tourists spending more. Think about what it might mean for The Powers That Be on an island to try to discourage visitors at the lower end of the per-visit spend range...

Yes. It changes everything. That's the point of the article. It is a "reboot" where they can look at what they've done in the past that was good, what was bad, what unintended consequences arose, and then start over and do things differently and -hopefully- better.

 

[Luanne]

I think the "vision" is fewer tourists spending more.

I guess what I was looking for was more of a plan. I should have realized that a vision can be kind of murky.

 

[controller1]

Right. The reason that’s interesting is the message is usually more tourists spending more. Think about what it might mean for The Powers That Be on an island to try to discourage visitors at the lower end of the per-visit spend range...

I think the tourism official is hinting that Hawaii doesn't want those tourists who come for two weeks and cook their own meals. I believe he is saying you're not welcome unless you come, eat out, go on activities, etc. Don't come to just sit on the beach and cook your own meals!

 

[Luanne]

I think the tourism official is hinting that Hawaii doesn't want those tourists who come for two weeks and cook their own meals. I believe he is saying you're not welcome unless you come, eat out, go on activities, etc. Don't come to just sit on the beach and cook your own meals!

In other words he doesn't want timeshare people.

 

[Kapolei]

I think the tourism official is hinting that Hawaii doesn't want those tourists who come for two weeks and cook their own meals. I believe he is saying you're not welcome unless you come, eat out, go on activities, etc. Don't come to just sit on the beach and cook your own meals!

Remember Hawaii is over a million people and part of the USA. Policies, fees, and taxes can be skewed one way or another. But under the United States Constitution, Hawaii belongs to all citizens of the USA.

 

[lynne]

Stay-at-home order extended through May 31 - West Hawaii Today

Stay-at-home order extended through May 31 – Hawaii News | West Hawaii Today

www.westhawaiitoday.com

Also extended through the end of May — the 14-day quarantine for both visitors and residents entering the state and for inter-island travelers.

 

[Tamaradarann]

I think the tourism official is hinting that Hawaii doesn't want those tourists who come for two weeks and cook their own meals. I believe he is saying you're not welcome unless you come, eat out, go on activities, etc. Don't come to just sit on the beach and cook your own meals!

The tourist official is making a statement that may be his vision and desire and the vision and desire of others who want to benefit economically from tourism but want to keep Hawaii the way it once was with less tourists. It is nice to say that they want less tourists but want them to spend more. That is a nice vision for them. I have nice visions also like a 3 bedroom penthouse on the ocean forever but visions don't always come to fruitiion.

Just because that is their vision doesn't mean that tourist will comply with their vision. First of all once the effects of the virus are reduced to the point where tourist will be allowed to come, stay, and enjoy their vacation in a reasonable mammer and not be quarantined the numbers will be down. The hotels, restaurants, tour companies, and shop owners are going to be extremely glad to see tourists; any tourists. There will be promotions and discounts like some of the entertainment book deals back in the 2009-2011 when the economy was just coming back from the previous recession. Second of all many tourists including timeshare owners and renters come back to Hawaii year after year sometimes for many weeks or even months. They have done the touristy stuff that costs money. The don't spend money on the Hotels. They eat out occasionally, but not all the meals. Particularly not breakfast and lunch. They may buy some gifts and discretionary merchandise but less than the first or second time coming. Third, the recession will make people somewhat cautious about spending too much on vacations. Hawaii is known for being an expensive vacation so if tourists get the impression that Hawaii has gotten more expensive they will go to other locations and Hawaii will suffer.

 

[controller1]

Stay-at-home order extended through May 31 - West Hawaii Today

Stay-at-home order extended through May 31 – Hawaii News | West Hawaii Today

www.westhawaiitoday.com

Also extended through the end of May — the 14-day quarantine for both visitors and residents entering the state and for inter-island travelers.

Here is the Sixth Supplemental Order from Gov. Ige.

https://governor.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2004144-ATG_Sixth-Supplementary-Proclamation-for-COVID-19-distribution-signed.pdf

 

[frank808]

Just spent a nice hour in lagoon in front of Marriott Koolina. Was just my son and I. Definitely quiet and relaxing. No one else at lagoon since the public parking lots are still closed. Only lagoon closed is in front of Aulani as they are doing sand reclamation there.

I have never seen the water so clear since the 80's. Was able to spot fish and see the bottom all the way out to the breakers. Water reminded me of St John's in clarity. Though no where as warm as the Caribbean.

Also walking along the pathways are also allowed now.

Some small progress towards normalcy.

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[Kapolei]

Just spent a nice hour in lagoon in front of Marriott Koolina. Was just my son and I. Definitely quiet and relaxing. No one else at lagoon since the public parking lots are still closed. Only lagoon closed is in front of Aulani as they are doing sand reclamation there.

I have never seen the water so clear since the 80's. Was able to spot fish and see the bottom all the way out to the breakers. Water reminded me of St John's in clarity. Though no where as warm as the Caribbean.

Also walking along the pathways are also allowed now.

Some small progress towards normalcy.

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I heard about that in a FB group. They are trying to keep quiet about it so a lot of outsiders don’t walk into the resort from the bus stop to use the lagoons.

 

[pedro47]

Here is the Sixth Supplemental Order from Gov. Ige.

https://governor.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2004144-ATG_Sixth-Supplementary-Proclamation-for-COVID-19-distribution-signed.pdf

The Governor of Hawaii have laid off a very detail plan to control the coronavirus in his state.

 

[chellej]

Hawaii coronavirus stay-at-home order, quarantine for travelers extended to May 31

A stay-at-home order and mandatory quarantine for travelers in Hawaii has been extended through the end of May, with the governor saying Saturday the threat for coronavirus remains in the state.

www.foxnews.com

 

[TravelTime]

This is bad news but does not surprise me. I assumed Hawaii would be pretty conservative. I assume they will extend the tourist quarantine again after this one. They will probably open up to residents first and then eventually lift the tourist quarantines.

 

[Coloradorunner]

I guess I’m glad I didn’t buy all of those tempting May Marriott $250 accommodation certificate weeks to Hawaii then!!!

(I’m just kidding. I looked, but wasn’t going to actually go.)

 

[Kapolei]

I guess I’m glad I didn’t buy all of those tempting May Marriott $250 accommodation certificate weeks to Hawaii then!!!

(I’m just kidding. I looked, but wasn’t going to actually go.)

Got a May week because I am here. I have two more AC’s to use but I am waiting to see if June shows up. I prefer the resort when it is operating.

 

[Coloradorunner]

Got a May week because I am here. I have two more AC’s to use but I am waiting to see if June shows up. I prefer the resort when it is operating.

I’m jealous that you were already there. Those AC prices are amazing. The first time I saw Hawaii appear with an AC, I couldn’t believe it!

 

[JanT]

I honestly thought about picking up some of the Ko'Olina weeks (intending for them to be back-to-back) and just going ahead and doing the 14 day quarantine and after that enjoying a few more weeks there. I'm worn out after a long couple of years of watching over my elderly mother and am just now truly grieving her passing in December. I'd like the comfort and peacefulness of being in a place that I've grown to love so very much through the years. In the end though, I just couldn't do it because I was worried that it would be forcing them to keep staff on just to accommodate a few guests. I would rather them be able to let their staff stay at home and avoid becoming exposed. It was a wonderful thought for a few minutes though.

 

[Kapolei]

I honestly thought about picking up some of the Ko'Olina weeks (intending for them to be back-to-back) and just going ahead and doing the 14 day quarantine and after that enjoying a few more weeks there. I'm worn out after a long couple of years of watching over my elderly mother and am just now truly grieving her passing in December. I'd like the comfort and peacefulness of being in a place that I've grown to love so very much through the years. In the end though, I just couldn't do it because I was worried that it would be forcing them to keep staff on just to accommodate a few guests. I would rather them be able to let their staff stay at home and avoid becoming exposed. It was a wonderful thought for a few minutes though.

the quarantine is very unpleasant... it might be manageable for a returning resident, but it is basically house arrest for two weeks

 

[Tamaradarann]

the quarantine is very unpleasant... it might be manageable for a returning resident, but it is basically house arrest for two weeks

I agree with you. I was in Hawaii when I heard that Governor Ige issued the 14 quarentine order for all incoming people. I said that basically the order was a nice way of saying "You can't come here".

 

[frank808]

I honestly thought about picking up some of the Ko'Olina weeks (intending for them to be back-to-back) and just going ahead and doing the 14 day quarantine and after that enjoying a few more weeks there. I'm worn out after a long couple of years of watching over my elderly mother and am just now truly grieving her passing in December. I'd like the comfort and peacefulness of being in a place that I've grown to love so very much through the years. In the end though, I just couldn't do it because I was worried that it would be forcing them to keep staff on just to accommodate a few guests. I would rather them be able to let their staff stay at home and avoid becoming exposed. It was a wonderful thought for a few minutes though.

Staff is here working. All front of house, concierge, valet, etc are on furlough. But resort has 5 rooms occupied here so there is a skeleton staff. Actually it is the managers running the front desk for the past couple weeks.

Very relaxing and quiet.

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[Tamaradarann]

Staff is here working. All front of house, concierge, valet, etc are on furlough. But resort has 5 rooms occupied here so there is a skeleton staff. Actually it is the managers running the front desk for the past couple weeks.

Very relaxing and quiet.

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We don't go to Honolulu to relax. We can and do relax at home and will be relaxing soon by the pool at home in our wooden private backyard. We are home bodies on Long Island from October-April with very little to do but relax since the weather is too cold and not conducive to our liking. That is why Hawaii weather is so desirable all year long. We are out everyday walking around; going to the beach, going food shoppng; going to shows, theatre, symphonies, breweries, and dinner without a car when we are in Honolulu. When the weather gets warm here next month and for the summer, if the virus wasn't an issue, we would be doing the same thing here on Long Island.

 

[JanT]

It would be a little more difficult than what I'm doing here at home since I do go out for a walk daily but my only other excursions have been curbside pickup for groceries about every 10 days. So, it would be doable for me simply because it would force me to rest which I need badly. BUT, as I said, I'm not going - it was something that entered my mind and left almost as quickly.

the quarantine is very unpleasant... it might be manageable for a returning resident, but it is basically house arrest for two weeks

 

[JanT]

I don't think it said, "You can't come here," but it was a nice way of telling us to all stay home. LoL I have no intention of going - it was just a momentary wish from a tired person who could use a little island time. I'll get that when Hawaii finally opens up again.

I agree with you. I was in Hawaii when I heard that Governor Ige issued the 14 quarentine order for all incoming people. I said that basically the order was a nice way of saying "You can't come here".

 

[JanT]

I knew you were there from your previous posts. So glad you are getting to work from such a beautiful place. Was the 14-day quarantine in place when you first arrived?

Staff is here working. All front of house, concierge, valet, etc are on furlough. But resort has 5 rooms occupied here so there is a skeleton staff. Actually it is the managers running the front desk for the past couple weeks.

Very relaxing and quiet.

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[Tamaradarann]

I don't think it said, "You can't come here," but it was a nice way of telling us to all stay home. LoL I have no intention of going - it was just a momentary wish from a tired person who could use a little island time. I'll get that when Hawaii finally opens up again.

I agree with you on the meaning of the words in the message. However, I was in Honolulu, which is the tourist center of Hawaii, hotels and resorts started to close and the feeling of the locals that we know and speak with offen was that the Governor should shut off ALL TOURISTS COMING HERE. I remember thinking that before they start closing the hotels and resorts they should stop tourists from coming because once they get here, where will they stay? Right after that Governor Ige issued the 14 day quarantine. That is where I got the feeling from the 14 day quarantine that "it was a nice way of telling people you can't come" rather than issuing a directive to not come.