Hawaii to require 14-day quarantine of incoming air passengers [merged]

[zentraveler]

We have just put in requests for January 2021 and are hoping that we can travel by then. Would love to go in November but suspect that will be too soon to bet on.

 

[bnoble]

Ok , Tuggers, do you feel mainland tourists can visit Hawaii without been quarantine next May 2021?

There is only one way to know for sure!

 

["Roger"]

Article from the Hawaii Tribune Herald (applies to the Big Island)

Tourism official lays out his vision for industry reboot

 

[Luanne]

Article from the Hawaii Tribune Herald (applies to the Big Island)

Tourism official lays out his vision for industry reboot

I didn't really find a lot of information in that.

 

[slip]

I didn't really find a lot of information in that.

I just read the same thing before you posted and thought that there was no information in there.

 

[csodjd]

I hope so. We want to go back to Maui in March 2021.

I've got reservations for Oahu and Maui in both November and next March. I expect Hawaii to be open, even if somewhat different.

 

[Luanne]

I've got reservations for Oahu and Maui in both November and next March. I expect Hawaii to be open, even if somewhat different.

We've owned on Maui since 1986 and have been there many, many times. I'm happy to be able to go back even if things are somewhat different. As long as the beaches are open and I can get food somewhere, I'll be fine.

 

[csodjd]

Ok , Tuggers, do you feel mainland tourists can visit Hawaii without been quarantine next May 2021?

Hawaii obviously cannot survive on the business generated by its own residents. They tax need revenue from hotels, and tax revenue from hotel and restaurant employees. They will find a way to reopen. They are not far from having a covid-free state. Maybe a few more weeks and they may go days without a single case. Then they'll develop a plan for reopening tourism. I expect it will involve some testing (kind of the way they handle it when a tourist wants to bring a dog in) before coming or upon arriving. If you test positive, you are quarantined. If you travel with someone that tests positive, you must test again a day or two days later, or both. Better if you have to be tested before getting on a plane, however.

 

[csodjd]

We've owned on Maui since 1986 and have been there many, many times. I'm happy to be able to go back even if things are somewhat different. As long as the beaches are open and I can get food somewhere, I'll be fine.

I'm picturing the dining along the walk in Kaannapali. They'll have tables, nicely separated. They'll test their employees -- come to work, do an Abbot rapid test, start your shift. No need for a mask if you aren't infected.

 

[Luanne]

I'm picturing the dining along the walk in Kaannapali. They'll have tables, nicely separated. They'll test their employees -- come to work, do an Abbot rapid test, start your shift. No need for a mask if you aren't infected.

We're in Kihei. I wouldn't even mind take out. Bring it back and eat out on our lanai.

 

[JanT]

Just in case anyone is thinking of heading to Hawaii, I found this article in the news from today. Hawaii is taking the 14-day quarantine VERY seriously.

Three visitors arrested in Hawaii for breaking quarantine rules

Matthew Young, 27, his girlfriend Makynzie Anderson, 24, and their mutual friend 39-year old Caleb Conrad were all arrested and charged with breaking self-quarantine in Hilo, Hawaii.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Luanne]

Just in case anyone is thinking of heading to Hawaii, I found this article in the news from today. Hawaii is taking the 14-day quarantine VERY seriously.

Three visitors arrested in Hawaii for breaking quarantine rules

Matthew Young, 27, his girlfriend Makynzie Anderson, 24, and their mutual friend 39-year old Caleb Conrad were all arrested and charged with breaking self-quarantine in Hilo, Hawaii.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I don't think anyone who has posted recently is talking about going to Hawaii anytime soon. Most of the wonderings have been when we can go, when will the quarantine be lifted.

 

[artringwald]

When hurricane Iniki hit Hawaii in 1992, it caused an estimated $1.8 billion in damage. Crop damage was also extensive, destroying tropical fruit, plants and sugar cane. The worst damage was on Kauai. With most of the resorts damaged, it took many years for Kauai tourism to recover. We went there in 1998, and tourism was still rather light. I hope it won't take years for Hawaii to recover from COVID-19, but at this point, it's hard for anyone to predict.

 

[Luanne]

When hurricane Iniki hit Hawaii in 1992, it caused an estimated $1.8 billion in damage. Crop damage was also extensive, destroying tropical fruit, plants and sugar cane. The worst damage was on Kauai. With most of the resorts damaged, it took many years for Kauai tourism to recover. We went there in 1998, and tourism was still rather light. I hope it won't take years for Hawaii to recover from COVID-19, but at this point, it's hard for anyone to predict.

Did it take so long for Kauai to recover because of the massage damage and the need to rebuild?

I remember Iniki well. We were on Maui and the last flight out to get home before they shut down that airport. Our next door neighbor was from Kauai and she had a lot of family, including her parents, living in the area that was the worst hit. She didn't know for several days if they were dead or alive. Luckily they did survive. Her dad came to California and was buying generators to have sent back to Kauai.

 

[artringwald]

Did it take so long for Kauai to recover because of the massage damage and the need to rebuild?

Everything in Hawaii seems to move slowly. With many homes destroyed as well as resorts, and a limited number of construction workers and materials, it was a long process. The the slow speed of insurance claims, changes in in construction codes, and changes in zoning requirements increased the time to repair or replace all the damage. Twenty eight years later, Coco Palms still lies in ruins. It took 17 years before the Poipu Beach Hotel reopened as the Koʻa Kea Hotel. Of course COVID-19 won't cause any property damage, but if shops, restaurants, and resorts go bankrupt, it could take a long time before they reopen. When we were in Poipu in February, there was new construction in progress in several areas. Will the builders go bankrupt before they're able to complete and sell all the new properties? Will people want to travel as much? Will as many people be able to afford to travel? The future is certainly uncertain.

 

[csodjd]

When hurricane Iniki hit Hawaii in 1992, it caused an estimated $1.8 billion in damage. Crop damage was also extensive, destroying tropical fruit, plants and sugar cane. The worst damage was on Kauai. With most of the resorts damaged, it took many years for Kauai tourism to recover. We went there in 1998, and tourism was still rather light. I hope it won't take years for Hawaii to recover from COVID-19, but at this point, it's hard for anyone to predict.

I read an article this morning that was speaking mostly of the big island, but generally about Hawaii. They were saying that his is a chance for Hawaii to "reboot" its tourism and tourism plans, and that they'd like to return with fewer tourists at higher costs -- in other words, more revenue per tourist. The idea is to offer more at tourist locations, cultural sites, etc, but at a higher price. Also have fewer short-term rentals and more hotel rentals.

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.co...cial-lays-out-his-vision-for-industry-reboot/

I for one would not mind if it was less crowded and you could get into restaurants without making a reservation a week or two before we even fly over.

 

[Kapolei]

I read an article this morning that was speaking mostly of the big island, but generally about Hawaii. They were saying that his is a chance for Hawaii to "reboot" its tourism and tourism plans, and that they'd like to return with fewer tourists at higher costs -- in other words, more revenue per tourist. The idea is to offer more at tourist locations, cultural sites, etc, but at a higher price. Also have fewer short-term rentals and more hotel rentals.

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.co...cial-lays-out-his-vision-for-industry-reboot/

I for one would not mind if it was less crowded and you could get into restaurants without making a reservation a week or two before we even fly over.

They were already significantly cracking down on AirBnb. These vacation property owners have very little political power. But they really have a safer way to house tourists If they were strictly regulated and required cleaning from licensed companies with strict protocols. Hotels are much more vulnerable. But hotels have the political clout. So I expect policy to be driven by the mega stakeholders.

 

[JanT]

I didn't mean to imply that anyone had been talking about going. Just found the article and shared it in case anyone was thinking of trying to go during the quarantine.

I don't think anyone who has posted recently is talking about going to Hawaii anytime soon. Most of the wonderings have been when we can go, when will the quarantine be lifted.

 

[rickandcindy23]

I didn't mean to imply that anyone had been talking about going. Just found the article and shared it in case anyone was thinking of trying to go during the quarantine.

I haven't cancelled our flights to Kauai for 6/6. Our son was going to the Big Island on 6/6 and then joining us at Shearwater that second week. I am waiting a while to cancel, but I know it's inevitable.

 

[pedro47]

I didn't really find a lot of information in that.

It is better to remain silent, then to have release this article. IMO.

 

[bnoble]

I disagree. The underlying message of that article was interesting. It didn’t convey concrete plans. But when a guy whose job is promoting tourism on the Big Island says maybe there should be fewer tourists, that’s notable. It’s one thing for that to come from community organizers. It’s another from someone like this.

 

[JanT]

I'm so sorry - but let's keep praying that something shifts and you'll be able to go. We have a trip to Ko'Olina planned for mid-October but I'm thinking even that may be iffy.

I haven't cancelled our flights to Kauai for 6/6. Our son was going to the Big Island on 6/6 and then joining us at Shearwater that second week. I am waiting a while to cancel, but I know it's inevitable.

 

[Luanne]

I disagree. The underlying message of that article was interesting. It didn’t convey concrete plans. But when a guy whose job is promoting tourism on the Big Island says maybe there should be fewer tourists, that’s notable. It’s one thing for that to come from community organizers. It’s another from someone like this.

It was the title of the article that was misleading to me. It said he was sharing his "vision". Personally I didn't see much vision in there.

 

[csodjd]

It was the title of the article that was misleading to me. It said he was sharing his "vision". Personally I didn't see much vision in there.

I think the "vision" is fewer tourists spending more.

 

[bnoble]

Right. The reason that’s interesting is the message is usually more tourists spending more. Think about what it might mean for The Powers That Be on an island to try to discourage visitors at the lower end of the per-visit spend range...