Your worst timeshare presentation experience?

[lprstn]

Very curious... Why did he give you the books and the bag if you didn't purchase? What type of gifts are they now giving?

They weren't giving any gifts, if you consider a fastpass a gift. I went because I was truly interested in purchasing, my husband wasn't as interested but went along to humor me. However my husband stated he wasn't interested I didn't argue with him. We told the man what we had and that we were happy with it, not indicating desire either way. I really can't say why he cut it short that way, other than he didn't think that we could afford to purchase, nor that we really wanted to. Not to mention we had our 4 kids in their kids club. I didn't complain to Disney, although I still have the book and his card. After that cut off my husband would never consider purchasing now. He is sort of unforgiving.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Disney was our best timeshare experience as well. I didn't care about the gifts and was surprised about the fast pass and the ice creams and snacks. Our salesman was wonderful, very informative and nice. We ARE going to buy Disney points, too. But we have to get our Fairfield account set up and going, then it is Disney for us! We love the idea of Disney and our salesperson is still there for us. I told Rick that we need at least 300 points to do what I want!

 

[Kauai Kid]

The Point at Poipu (we are owners) presentation was our worst and definitely the last. I was dumber than dirt to go--greed for $250 got in the way.
Good way to spoil a day in paradise. Never have bought from a developer.

Sterling

 

[Phill12]

Softballdad, I am so surprised at your stand on this one, my friend. Consider that NO ONE goes to a presentation to buy, but some buy anyway. It's a numbers game. The salespeople know they cannot sell everyone who comes in the door, and if they did, they wouldn't make as much per sale as they do now. How many people really go to a timeshare presentation, where they have been invited from the street by some vendor or body snatcher. No way would anyone go to a timeshare presentation from a cold call or if just invited by a stranger, without an incentive. It's the nature of the beast.





(Softballdad3}

Hi Cindy! I 'm not taking the sales people side at any time but what I am saying is we understand they will say anything to hook a buyer. People going in to this have no right to moan and complain later that they wasted all this time when all they were there for were the gifts.

I do disagree with you that no one goes to buy because many go in with that idea and sometimes these salesman talk them out of buying because of the lies.

My point is all these people should understand what their putting themselves in for and people do need to be responsable for their own actions.

Your right that many Tuggers and non-Tuggers go to check out a resort for trade but most just go as a lie to buy when all they want are the freebies and these people are lying as much as the sales people are.

These people want to be honest then walk in and state I don't want to buy but am only here for the free stuff!:rofl: But instead they will sit and try and act interested for few minutes and waste this persons time and then whine that they sit for ninty minutes. They could get up and walk out but of coarse they wouldn't get those free gifts.

I do not like the term gifts because that gift cost them 90 minutes of their life.
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We bought two timeshares from developers, always intending not to buy. And we plan to go on a tour of Fairfield specifically to buy and convert our weeks to Platinum VIP (or maybe Presidential, who knows?). This will happen very soon, but I have to be prepared for the purchase--meaning I will know what we are going to pay ahead of time, and it will be the lowest maintenance fees and purchase price I can find from the developer. We will travel specifically to that destination for that purpose.

I think it is very wise to get informed. If we hadn't attended a Fairfield presentation almost a year ago, we wouldn't know what we now know, as I wouldn't have cared to find out on my own. Now that we are confident in the system, we are going to sell almost everything else and just purchase Fairfield, because it has all of the qualities that we want. We own points now, quite a few, actually, all bought resale, mostly from RPMI Realty and Jeff Fudge/ Angel England. Platinum is what we need to use the product more efficiently, so we WILL buy, and comparing that system to Diamond/ Sunterra, Marriott, and a few others we checked out, some that we own as well, like RCI Points, just seemed like a wise way to compare systems.

It is our right to talk to salespeople and become informed before a major purchase. We also go to several car dealers, look at their products, take a test drive, and then move on to the next dealer. Once we decide on a car, we go to several dealers and get the best price. That is the smart way to do it.

Sure the developers offer free gifts, but it is part of the game, and it is a game. The lies are a part of the game I don't enjoy.

I have only known about TUG for less than 3 years, so I received almost all of my education from timeshare salespeople over the years. I am not as likely to go on any ol' presentation anymore. Rick and I are looking for quality and value for our retirement years. If a new product comes out that intrigues us, we will sure look into it by attending yet another timeshare presentation. I still haven't been to a Worldmark presentation, which is another one on my list to learn about. We also are very curious about Bluegreen because there are locations that we love within that system. Exchanging is getting more difficult as mini-systems take a larger share of the market. We cannot count on exchanging in the future, so owning within a system is going to become more and more necessary.

Consider the knowledge we have on TUG that people out there don't get from salespeople, no matter how many $100 gifts they take? Too bad some people have to get their timeshare education from salespeople, but most do.

Again Cindy I am only talking about the freebies chasers. When you put a group of liars at a table then why be surprises when lies come out!


PHIL

 

[rickandcindy23]

Phil,
I respect your position and even admire your ability to say no!

My curiosity always gets the best of me. Rick was against going to any more presentations when I dragged him and our son to the Marriott presentation in late January. I wanted to hear about points and was genuinely interested in trading power within the system to get us to the Marriotts in Hawaii. If we could get to the Marriotts in Hawaii with no problem through trading, I would definitely buy a Marriott property. I would have to weigh the value of the points with the price of a resale.

Of course, the lying salesmen keep you guessing and wondering because their motive is to sell, no matter what they have to promise to do it. So the real answers don't come from them anyway.

I wonder if we are going to have a hard time getting information from Fairfield/ Wyndham, when the time comes to buy. I plan to call on the phone, find a great price, then go in person to sign the papers and tour that particular resort. My goal is not free gifts, but I think I am still going to deal with some lies, don't you think?

 

[timeos2]

I wonder if we are going to have a hard time getting information from Fairfield/ Wyndham, when the time comes to buy. I plan to call on the phone, find a great price, then go in person to sign the papers and tour that particular resort. My goal is not free gifts, but I think I am still going to deal with some lies, don't you think?

Cindy - PLEASE, PLEASE tell me you aren't even considering a retail Wyndham purchase! No matter how they spin it or what they tell you you're getting in bonus value or VIP in the end you'll pay too much over what you can get in equivalent resale and not have to involve the convoluted and ever-changing Wyndham rules.

By all means go listen to what they have to offer, note the points required and the prices. Then go price it out without involving PIC or VIP or any other thing they can change without notice. You'll find you can easily duplicate your desired points and costs for far less and know what you own using straight, inexpensive resale. No exceptions (although there are tortured calculations that try to prove otherwise - when you get down to simple dollars and cents if there are savings in ongoing fees it's in pennies vs the tens of thousands of dollars in excess up front costs that you'd only recover over 20+ years, if ever. Too many things can change at Wyndhams whim in that time to ensure you'd ever "reap" those savings).

Don't but Wyndham retail. Ever. Anyway you'll get more than your share of lies from the Weasels so if that turns you off you are guaranteed not to buy.

 

[JMAESD84]

What is funny here is all the people that go on these tours and hate liers when they themselves are liers! So many are going just to waste their time and sales people time with no thought of doing anything but collecting some free stuff and in most cases just junk for their garage.

Bottom line is people wasting 90 minutes of their life and are going just for the free gifts then they are a bottom feader too!

Phil - You're coming across as VERY holyer-than-thou.

I've gone to many timeshare presentations, mostly before I ever purchased a timeshare, and I own several now. I took the gifts offered every time.

I've never purchased from a developer and never will.

Purchasing is a never a requirement for the tour or the gift and never will be. Income qualifications, home ownership sometimes, etc. are requirements and I satisfy all of those.....I've met my obligation.

I'll be going to Vegas this coming Labor day week for a total of 9 days, 7 at the Hilton Flamingo and 2 at the Cancun Resort. My two days at the Cancun require me to attend a presentation as in addition to a special rate, they provide some dining and show tickets as gifts. I be speaking the truth the whole time I'm there and I'll happily take the gifts.

I might even sign up for a few more TS presentations while in town, if the gifts are worth my time. :whoopie:

"BOTTOM FEEDER" Please :annoyed:

 

[rickandcindy23]

John, you are so sweet to worry about little ol' us. Rick and I have been thinking about this for a year, and those Platinum benefits are what we want. We rescinded a contract last year and sometimes wish we hadn't. We are going to find the best points deal and convert our fixed weeks to points simultaneously. I know people who have Platinum and love it. I have already purchased points and see the availability within 60 days, too. It's mighty tempting, if the price is right. Perhaps we will just convert through corporate, we don't know, but we need to have a conversation with Tom Cornelius, or maybe Jeff Fudge could answer our questions. This is going to be perfect for our retirement.

I want to see what Presidential level is all about, too, not that we want to stay in those huge units, just the two of us, but when the kids and grandkids want to travel with us, it would be a nice option.

 

[timeos2]

Don't want someone who doesn't plan to buy? Then don't invite us!

Phil - You're coming across as VERY holyer-than-thou.

I've gone to many timeshare presentations, mostly before I ever purchased a timeshare, and I own several now. I took the gifts offered every time.

I've never purchased from a developer and never will.

Purchasing is a never a requirement for the tour or the gift and never will be. Income qualifications, home ownership sometimes, etc. are requirements and I satisfy all of those.....I've met my obligation.

I'll be going to Vegas this coming Labor day week for a total of 9 days, 7 at the Hilton Flamingo and 2 at the Cancun Resort. My two days at the Cancun require me to attend a presentation as in addition to a special rate, they provide some dining and show tickets as gifts. I be speaking the truth the whole time I'm there and I'll happily take the gifts.

I might even sign up for a few more TS presentations while in town, if the gifts are worth my time. :whoopie:

"BOTTOM FEEDER" Please :annoyed:

It is ridiculous to say that taking a tour, even if you have no plans to buy, is automatically lying. They practically beg you to attend, wave the gifts with no obligation to buy and set the rules. If they aren't convincing enough to change my mind from I'm not buying retail then they didn't do their job. I'm not sitting down saying I'm buying - I'm there to listen to what they have to say. Thats all we owe them. Play by their rules. If they don't want to invite me at my next stay I'd be happy! If they do invite me it's at their own risk. Twisting that to somehow be deceitful on our part is very disingenuous and simply playing to the sales weasels game. Sorry, we won't play that way.

If we sign up for 90 minutes we'll stay 90 minutes unless they decide we don't have to. If it goes more than 90 minutes they are going to hear about it and we expect our no obligation gift(s) in full at the end. Anything less and there is only one side pulling dishonest tactics. They most likely live in dens and praise King David. Oh, please have free popcorn as I really enjoy that during the pitch.

 

[timeos2]

OK, if you must

John, you are so sweet to worry about little ol' us. Rick and I have been thinking about this for a year, and those Platinum benefits are what we want. We rescinded a contract last year and sometimes wish we hadn't. We are going to find the best points deal and convert our fixed weeks to points simultaneously. I know people who have Platinum and love it. I have already purchased points and see the availability within 60 days, too. It's mighty tempting, if the price is right. Perhaps we will just convert through corporate, we don't know, but we need to have a conversation with Tom Cornelius, or maybe Jeff Fudge could answer our questions. This is going to be perfect for our retirement.

I want to see what Presidential level is all about, too, not that we want to stay in those huge units, just the two of us, but when the kids and grandkids want to travel with us, it would be a nice option.

Well I know you do your homework and, if it's what you want, make yourself happy! But don't sweat the fact that you rescinded last year. Now you already know what they offer and - be creative now & remind them you rescinded before so they better make the deal worthwhile - you should be able to get a better one this time around! Start at the previous offer and work down in price and/or up in benefits. In no case accept anything that costs even one penny more than the previous offer or walk again. You have to be ready to negotiate like you're Perry M this round. Take no prisoners!

Good luck.

 

[Hoc]

The "good cop - bad cop" routine at some resort in Mexico, near Cancun. (Not the Palace Resort chain, although they were sleezy too.)

Your description sounds exactly like the Mayan Palace presentation in Playa Del Carmen.

 

[Chocklatgurl]

Like some of the other posters, I think "bottom-feeders" is a very strong and offensive term to use for most of us who use our common sense in making a purchase. How many of us go into a car dealership and make a decision to purchase without a test-drive? It just so happens that timeshare presentations come with perks. When I'm at these presentations, I can't help but think about all the "free" gifts, snacks, beverages, tickets, etc, they're handing out. Not for a minute do I think the developer is absorbing these costs...they're passing it on to all those poor unsuspecting people who actually buy at the presentation! I don't go out asking for gifts, but if you call my home (unsolicited) and offer me a discounted vacation in exchange for some of my time, I think my obligation is fulfilled when I've given that time and I don't expect you to stick the knife in my back when I walk out the door.
For all the really nasty people I've met during timeshare presentations, I've actually met some pretty good ones. At Orange Lake Country Club, the salesperson didn't try to pressure us and he seemed geniunely appreciative of our candor, allowing him to move on to the next potential customer.

 

[Hoc]

People complain about these timeshare sales people for being liars which most are but in the process they are no better.

1. I am absolutely honest with everyone from the hawker on the street to the salesperson, that I will not buy, but am willing to attend and collect the free gift. That is not lying, that is being absolutely honest.

2. Almost nobody who goes to these presentations has an intent to buy, almost everyone is there just for the free gifts. The only difference is that, for some people, the salesmen think they have a chance of changing their mind. In my case, there is absolutely no chance, and I am completely honest about that.

3. Knowing absolutely that there is no chance I will buy, it is the salesperson's decision whether they will waste their time with me or move on to someone whom they might be able to convince to buy a $3,000 product for $28,000. I never waste their time, they waste their own time if they choose to do so.

The salespeople are not completely honest. I am not a liar, and do not lie at any point during the process. Now, how is it that you are saying that we are the same?

 

[ownsherown]

Disney gives out a (paper) bag containing a book showing all the DVC resorts, their floor plans, the number of points needed per season, etc., as well as information on other resorts, hotels, etc. that can be booked with DVC points and the points needed for those. You can also use the bag for carrying away whatever their current offer is. You are encouraged to look over everything, think about it, and call them back if you want to buy.

As far as I know, DVC does not give out major freebies. They may give you some fast passes to make up for the theme park time you spent at the presentation, and there's free light refreshments and ice cream.

I got a ride in private van from Boardwalk to timeshares, then to Downtown Disney when finished, 100 Disney bucks which change is given back in cash and ice cream last year when I was there.
. A no pressure 30 min. information presentation. Told the guy up front I was there with friends, killing time and was interested in the concept but in no way ready to buy.

 

[janapur]

Like some of the other posters, I think "bottom-feeders" is a very strong and offensive term to use for most of us who use our common sense in making a purchase. How many of us go into a car dealership and make a decision to purchase without a test-drive? It just so happens that timeshare presentations come with perks. When I'm at these presentations, I can't help but think about all the "free" gifts, snacks, beverages, tickets, etc, they're handing out. Not for a minute do I think the developer is absorbing these costs...they're passing it on to all those poor unsuspecting people who actually buy at the presentation! I don't go out asking for gifts, but if you call my home (unsolicited) and offer me a discounted vacation in exchange for some of my time, I think my obligation is fulfilled when I've given that time and I don't expect you to stick the knife in my back when I walk out the door.
For all the really nasty people I've met during timeshare presentations, I've actually met some pretty good ones. At Orange Lake Country Club, the salesperson didn't try to pressure us and he seemed geniunely appreciative of our candor, allowing him to move on to the next potential customer.

Very true. We have met some very genuine salespeople who said we've attended more tours than they've given, thanking us and politely moving on to someone who might buy, and several who just escorted us to the gift redemption. Several have asked even though we weren't going to buy, would we like to at least see the resort? I have never considered it to be a waste of time, but as a real estate broker, perhaps I have a greater interest than others. Or I'm just nutty.

We brought the tiny tots with on our last trip to Vegas. Funny how the body snatchers didn't even make eye contact when we were pushing the stroller. While we may never bring the kids again, we thought we might just push around a stroller to deter the ts guys.

 

[PerryM]

The Pink Elephant...

Hands down our worst timeshare tour was at the old Maui Embassy Vacation Resort timeshare that became the Ka’anapali Beach Club, a Sunterra Resort.

Each year we would take a sales tour and they had a policy of no free gifts unless 12 months went by. Well 3 years ago we signed up for a sales tour. By my records we were 12 months and 1 day from the last tour. They had handed out $100 coupons to Roy's in past years.

Well we signed in and as they assigned salesrep to us a guy walked by who looked vaguely familiar – he too thought he recognized me (Turns out he was our salesrep from the year before). Well he asked to be our rep, disappeared for about 10 minutes and came fuming back – we were 1 day short of 12 months and how dare we come back.

This clown spent 1 hour of stomping around and acting like a 5 year old who’s older brother took his toy. We really wanted to see if the new Sunterra name had any impact on the “Pink Elephant” as we call the resort – it was really showing signs of aging.

He made it clear that we would NOT get a free gift and wanted to hustle us off. Well that set up a challenge for us – just how much time could we waste of his time since it was so precious. We saw the unit and spent a lot of time just lounging around enjoying the Hawaiian breezes at the penthouse unit.

We kept asking him if Sunterra was going to get out of bankruptcy and become whole again or would it be liquidated – he seemed to get agitated with those questions; so we asked more.

I did get our parking ticket validated so we did get something out of the tour; and a bunch of free Cokes. It was a hoot.

 

[Transit]

The worst was at Westgate Lakes when the salesperson said that we were taking money out of her pocket by coming with no intention to buy and that she should have stayed home with her infant daughter. The guilt approach didn't phase us a bit.

With any presentation, I insist on having the salesperson or somebody "sign off" on the fact that the presentation is over, because I can't remember the last time we've had to sit through the whole 90, 120 or whatever length of time they threaten and I don't want to either not get the goodies or be charged if it's some sort of discounted stay. If I get resistance I simply say that I've heard of that happening before, and although I know they (the salesperson) wouldn't have any part of that, it will prevent any possible misunderstandings down the road. By depersonalizing it like that, I've never had a refusal.

This may have been the same nut I had at Westgate. It was a few years ago .The Saleswomen we had was pregnant and even resorted to crying. I have no regrets in accecpting freebies from timeshare tours Knowing full and well I'm not buying.

 

[PerryM]

It's just a game, and I try to play well...

Again Cindy I am only talking about the freebies chasers. When you put a group of liars at a table then why be surprises when lies come out!


PHIL

I’m a proud free-bee chaser – easily make $1,000 in Maui each year taking timeshare tours. (Just came back from Maui and happy to report our average held this year)

ALL the salesreps know that EVERYONE is there for the free-bees and that if they didn’t hand out cash or the equivalent of $100 - $200 folks would not take time from their vacation to get high pressured for 90 – 180 minutes.

This is how timeshares are sold – they are very hard to sell and only Disney can afford to not bribe folks into a sales pitch. Only 1 in 7 sales tours winds up in a sale. I like to think that I help the salesrep get closer to #7 and a juicy sale.

I’ve never read any sign at 80 timeshare sales tours that I’ve been on that says that they demand I be a serious candidate. They pre-qualify me and there are no check boxes that I must initial that I am seriously thinking of buying a timeshare.

So 80 times I’ve done my part. Sometimes we buy from the developer and 90% of the time we don’t. It’s all a numbers game to everyone concerned. The more timeshare tours I take the more likely I’m going to buy. I average 1 buy in 10 tours.

As to lies – we never lie; we start shaking our heads early and just say “This timeshare is not for us”. Most of the time the salesreps need to waste 90 minutes so we start asking questions about local events and great restaurants. What’s lying about that?

Nope, I am doing my part in the timeshare world - I encourage others to do the right thing and get $100 - $200 in free-bees and help keep the timeshare world safe from those sub-prime worries that plague the housing market.

P.S.
Some people love golfing in Maui - beating the hell out of a little ball with a big stick. We love free food, free drinks, free gifts, free restaurant and activities advice, the free tours of great resorts and being treated like a king and queen AND getting cash or other great prizes to boot.

I understand going on timeshare tours, I don't understand folks whacking a little ball around in the hot sun and paying BIG bucks on Maui. Now those are the folks I question.

 

[Chocklatgurl]

Perry,

WOW! 80?!? I thought I had been to a lot and I can still count them all with both hands! If you can put up with that, you deserve a standing ovation as well as the free goodies!


When I said I would never be completely honest about my intentions, I didn't mean that I would outright lie to folks. I've just decided that it does me absolutely no good to tell people from the outset that I have no intention to buy. For one, I risk having the same experience that I had with Coral Reef, and two, I think most of these people know already when I haul my 3 kids in with me that I would never pay their outrageous prices for the same thing I can get for a fraction at resale. Plus, when you say no at the beginning, some people take that as a challenge to try harder. I guess they feel they're making you EARN the free goodies or something. I've even had people tell me that if they don't meet a certain quota, they'll get fired. Uh...can we say..."Not my problem?"
In Orlando, I've also run into salespeople that used to work at a different resort. It's always funny to me how they will criticize the other resort's amenities, marketing, or tradeability when just a few months ago these same people were telling customers that the units at these other resorts were the best thing going! I even had one salesperson tell me that he had been friends with another salesperson (at another resort I had previously toured). He informed me and my husband that the other guy was working there to support a coke habit and to make enough money to start an exotic dancing business!

My biggest question is, why is the last price they offer so much less than the initial price? How do you go from something being worth $22K to $8k in a matter of minutes? Imagine how many people accept the first price without any negotiation? Makes you say..."Hmmmmm"

 

[lprstn]

I want to see what Presidential level is all about, too, not that we want to stay in those huge units, just the two of us, but when the kids and grandkids want to travel with us, it would be a nice option.

You can stay in the presidential units if you have enough points and not be VIP. I am VIP and the only benefits I use is the "free" upgrade and "35%" discount. I must admit that since I have been able to use my "PIC" program I have never traded my Sheraton, I always PIC it into my Wyndam for 154,000 that I convert into 4 weeks of travel. However, if you do purchase from the developer, purchase resale first for the largest amount of points to get you where you want to be, then purchase as little points as necessary to get you your VIP Platnium status. That's what I would have done if I could have done it differently...

 

[pisces311]

life IS to short

We have been to three presentations over the years and one was a resort we already new we wanted to buy in a couple years and did check it out.

What is funny here is all the people that go on these tours and hate liars when they themselves are liars! So many are going just to waste their time and sales people time with no thought of doing anything but collecting some free stuff and in most cases just junk for their garage.

We went into the resort we wanted to buy and told them what we were doing and didn't want to waste their time or collect free gifts but would like to check out the resort.

The salesman thanked us for telling him and poured us a glass of wine and ask if we could wait few minutes.

About ten minutes and a young lady, one of the bosses came over and told us she would be more than happy to take us up to look at some of the units we were interesed in maybe buying within a couple years and she was so nice.

We talked and she answered all our questions and gave us her card and as we were leaving came back and thanked us for not wasting her salesman time acting like buyers for free gifts. She said she had six sales people and all were with people interested in buying so it was nice of us not to have wasted their time.

She shook our hand and gave us a $50.00 dinner credit in Lake Tahoe to thanks us.

People complain about these timeshare sales people for being liars which most are but in the process they are no better.

If people really want to check out a resort then walk in and ask and forget the free breakfast or some other piece of junk you are getting to sit for 90 minutes.

We have a friend and his wife complains all the time about these sales people. She drags her husband into two or three a day and would never buy but wants the gifts only. She has cause more scenes because of this and everyone tells our friend (husband) to stop letting her go these tours.

She comes home mad and spends days writing letters to these resorts like they care when most of the problems are not the sales people which will lie but she is the problem.

Bottom line is people wasting 90 minutes of their life and are going just for the free gifts then they are a bottom feader too!

Lifes to short for this!

YOUR ABSOLUTLY CORRECT. THERE WAS ANOTHER COUPLE COMPLAINING A FEW WEEKS AGO WHICH JUST GOES TO SHOW. THIS IS ALL THEY GET TO DO ON VACATION, GO ON TOURS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE REPS. THESE SALESPEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING AND ARE GENERALLY COMISSION ONLY. TAKE THE TIME TO VACATION AWAY FROM BUSINESS, AND BUY RESALE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE "SALESPEOPLE" EVER AGAIN. GOOD FOR YOU.

 

[dsfritz]

worst presentation

I don't know if you'd say this was the worst presentation, but it was definitely the more memorable. After a high pressure presentation at Orange Tree Resort in Phoenix, AZ and our rejection of their offer, we were led down the fire escape rather than back through the regular entrance. My husband fumed, but I thought it was hilarious!!

 

[AwayWeGo]

The Best Of Both Worlds.

BUY RESALE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE "SALESPEOPLE" EVER AGAIN.

Or -- even better -- buy timeshares resale (saving thousands) and absorb maximum timeshare tour freebies.

The best of both worlds, eh ?

Shux, 1 time The Chief Of Staff & I even wangled compound freebies -- not that there's anything wrong with that.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[LUVourMarriotts]

Haven't had a bad one yet.

I can honestly say that we have not had a bad presentation yet. We've only been to Marriott presentations. After our first purchase, the salesperson already knows we are owners by the time they come to meet us. In almost every one they've said, "so you already know the system, so I won't bore you with the pitch". We appreciate that.

We actually have gotten some pretty useful information from our presentations, even though we just go for the points. I believe our average presentation lasts about 30 minutes. And we don't beg out, they seem to just know.

 

[PerryM]

YOUR ABSOLUTLY CORRECT. THERE WAS ANOTHER COUPLE COMPLAINING A FEW WEEKS AGO WHICH JUST GOES TO SHOW. THIS IS ALL THEY GET TO DO ON VACATION, GO ON TOURS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE REPS. THESE SALESPEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING AND ARE GENERALLY COMISSION ONLY. TAKE THE TIME TO VACATION AWAY FROM BUSINESS, AND BUY RESALE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE "SALESPEOPLE" EVER AGAIN. GOOD FOR YOU.

To all those folks who pity the salesreps making $350k per year, think of it this way:

I have a proven track record of 1 developer sale in 10 sales tours. What red blooded timeshare rep would not like a crack at getting our business? Why do folks here assume that salesreps don’t dream of outwitting me and making a sale out of our tour?

Give the reps more credit and allow them a chance to make the normal 1 in 7 sale with you. In return you get treated like a rock star – free drinks, food, we love the VIP treatment of golf cart rides to tour the place, and then we get a goodie bag, just like Hollywood folks, with our $200 gift. None of that is possible if we avoid the rep.

Nope, I’d bet that any salesrep worth their salt wants a shot at our 1 in 10 track record. I think its every TUG member's duty to allow those loveable reps a chance at our business and they can’t do that if you never go.