Your ARDA contribution made it harder to cancel

[Ken555]

I have a hard time doing math, I feel discriminated against.

Is that how you ended up with so many timeshares?


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[escanoe]

If it is going to a federal PAC, then they have to follow FEC law. But that money cannot be used to lobby state legislatures like what is being discussed in this thread.

 

[escanoe]

Here is where you can get analysis from the ARDA-ROC PAC from one of the good government groups.

PAC Profile: American Resort Development Assn

American Resort Development Assn raised $5,569,858 in the 2021-2022 election cycle. See the details.

www.opensecrets.org

 

[TUGBrian]

dri was hit with a huge fine from the FEC years ago for collecting "voluntary donations" from foreign nationals....ie since those contributions were collected by default.

clearly they have some oversight over this!

 

[TUGBrian]

I have a hard time doing math, I feel discriminated against.

I too am bad at math, I wonder if I sent them JUST the donation minus the annual dues...i could claim it was just all confusing to me and they should just bill me for what I owe instead!

 

[escanoe]

Also, the reason I did not think it was a PAC is my HGVC billing for it does not identify it as a PAC.

Seems like they should disclose that.

This is what our Vistana MF bill says about ARDA-ROC;
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[TUGBrian]

I have high hopes that once we attract the attention of the correct person, there is so much to unravel here its not even funny

 

[pedro47]

I too am bad at math, I wonder if I sent them JUST the donation minus the annual dues...i could claim it was just all confusing to me and they should just bill me for what I owe instead!

LOL, I feel that your five ($5.00) donation payment minus your annual dues will attract a lot attention from someone and not just from the computer as an error. IMHO. LOL

 

[chapjim]

I have a hard time doing math, I feel discriminated against.

Sorry, but math-challenged isn't a protected class!

 

[CPNY]

Sorry, but math-challenged isn't a protected class!

Well I’m sure there are owners with documented learning disabilities.

 

[johndeb]

Holiday Inn Club Vacations includes the voluntary ARDA contribution in the "Amount Due", you must maually change the "amount due" to avoid making the "Donation". Furthermore, the amount of the donation varies between $3 and $7 on each Contract with no logical reasoning for the differences. However, the Bill Payment system only displays the Total Amount Due, INCLUDING the ARDA donation, it does NOT display the amount of the ARDA donation. So, when paying the maintenance fee bill on-line, so you must refer to back your Bill to determine the correct amount to deduct. Clearly, their intention is to make avoiding the "voluntary contribution" as difficult as possible!

 

[simpsontruckdriver]

Well I’m sure there are owners with documented learning disabilities.

That would be DISCALCULIA, the inability to calculate math problems.

TS

 

[chapjim]

That would be DISCALCULIA, the inability to calculate math problems.

TS

Yeah, you just made that up, right?

Never mind! It's a real word!

 

[Carolinian]

This is what our Vistana MF bill says about ARDA-ROC;
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OK, what is strange about this is that almost all laws relating to timeshares are state law. Most of them are in the Uniform Unit Ownership Act and Uniform Condominium Act, both of which were promulgated by the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws, a body of commissioners appointed by state governors, which were then adopted by state legislatures, sometimes with modifications around the country. They are not federal law. Similarly, real estate laws are state laws. That is why every time I think I have ever read of ARDA getting involved on an issue was in a state legislature, not with Congress. That is indeed true of the law brought up by the OP.

 

[escanoe]

OK, what is strange about this is that almost all laws relating to timeshares are state law. Most of them are in the Uniform Unit Ownership Act and Uniform Condominium Act, both of which were promulgated by the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws, a body of commissioners appointed by state governors, which were then adopted by state legislatures, sometimes with modifications around the country. They are not federal law. Similarly, real estate laws are state laws. That is why every time I think I have ever read of ARDA getting involved on an issue was in a state legislature, not with Congress. That is indeed true of the law brought up by the OP.

My informed guess is that most issues impacting us (directly) and that we follow on TUG are state issues. But these contributions we are discussing apparently go to a federal PAC and can exclusively be used for federal purposes.

Based on what members of Congress (Committee leaders) that the heavier contributions are going to, my guess is they are lobbying quite a bit on tax policy.

When ARDA engages in federal lobbying, it (and the lobby firms they hire) must file government lobby disclosure forms that will show what issues they lobby on as well as which federal agencies they lobby.

When I have some time, I will pull some of their lobbying disclosure forms and report back.

While lobbying is not done with PAC dollars, usually how PAC dollars are spent are coordinated with lobbying efforts. The can use their corporate money to lobby, but only individual contribution (not corporate) can go to a PAC.