Yes, There’s American Wagyu — and It’s a More Affordable Way to Eat Exceptional Beef

[ScoopKona]

I, however, do not. My food chart is more like this.

They're not going to like my smoker, which is currently cooking down kalua pig, jerk chicken, huli huli chicken, smoked garlic tri-tip, macadamia nuts, alaea salt, and Spam.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

Here's some reasonable advice:

New York Times food columnist Mark Bittman has written a book (VB6: Eat Vegan Before 6:00 to Lose Weight and Restore Your Health … for Good) about his system of eating vegan all day; then if he feels like a burger for dinner, he eats it.

Mark is a good friend of my brother, and he tries to follow that advice. I, however, do not. My food chart is more like this.

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If you sprinkle some cocoa on Irish Coffee, it becomes a superfood, combining all four essential food groups:

• alcohol.
• caffeine.
• sugar.
• chocolate.

With dairy fat as a bonus!

 

[n42]

What's your thoughts on farmed salmon regarding health ?

Bill

I haven't looked into the difference between farmed and wild fish. I've heard that fish would be healthy if our waters weren't so polluted. Heavy metal contamination is the primary concern. I monitor my Omega 3 levels via annual blood test, and supplement with algae-based Omega 3s to maintain optimal levels.

 

[VacationForever]

We try to eat wild caught fish and shrimps. I have seafood 4 to 5 days a week, and the other days I have chicken, pork, beef or duck. I just prefer the taste of seafood. When I have beef, I have beef, i.e. prime grade ribeye or tomahawk. We are timesharing this week and I made a pot of seafood soup which we have dinner for the past 3 nights. We usually have lunch out. Let me see, I had fish tacos today, fish and chips yesterday, quiche 2 days before and duck salad 3 days before.

 

[easyrider]

We try to eat wild caught fish and shrimps. I have seafood 4 to 5 days a week, and the other days I have chicken, pork, beef or duck. I just prefer the taste of seafood. When I have beef, I have beef, i.e. prime grade ribeye or tomahawk. We are timesharing this week and I made a pot of seafood soup which we have dinner for the past 3 nights. We usually have lunch out. Let me see, I had fish tacos today, fish and chips yesterday, quiche 2 days before and duck salad 3 days before.

I like seafood more than meat for the most part. I do like Costco Atlantic salmon better than most wild salmon. I've not had duck for years and even when we hunted them I thought they were a bit gamey to the point I stopped hunting them. How are you cooking the duck ?

Bill

 

[slip]

I like seafood more than meat for the most part. I do like Costco Atlantic salmon better than most wild salmon. I've not had duck for years and even when we hunted them I thought they were a bit gamey to the point I stopped hunting them. How are you cooking the duck ?

Bill

We had duck on New Year's day this year. It was our first duck in many years. Our was delicious and we just roasted it, stuffed with long grain wild rice.

 

[easyrider]

We had duck on New Year's day this year. It was our first duck in many years. Our was delicious and we just roasted it, stuffed with long grain wild rice.

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Is that a wild duck ? I haven't tried a farm duck yet. Only malards for the most part.

Bill

 

[slip]

Is that a wild duck ? I haven't tried a farm duck yet. Only malards for the most part.

Bill

No, Farm raised duck. I have had both and farm raised won't have that gamey taste of a wild duck. This was a Maple Leaf brand duck. I have had that same brand while we lived in Wisconsin. This was a 5.5 pound duck and it was $39 here on Molokai. I remember buying them for $15 to $20 years ago in Wisconsin. We got two full meals out of it and it was just as good the next day.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

No, Farm raised duck. I have had both and farm raised won't have that gamey taste of a wild duck. This was a Maple Leaf brand duck. I have had that same brand while we lived in Wisconsin. This was a 5.5 pound duck and it was $39 here on Molokai. I remember buying them for $15 to $20 years ago in Wisconsin. We got two full meals out of it and it was just as good the next day.

Maple Leaf Farms (a completely different company from Maple Leaf Foods) has about a 90% market share for duck in the US. They make most of their money from the feathers, not the meat.

 

[ScoopKona]

Maple Leaf Farms (a completely different company from Maple Leaf Foods) has about a 90% market share for duck in the US. They make most of their money from the feathers, not the meat.

Sonoma Foie also sold outstanding ducks before they were hounded out of business by PETA.

 

[easyrider]

No, Farm raised duck. I have had both and farm raised won't have that gamey taste of a wild duck. This was a Maple Leaf brand duck. I have had that same brand while we lived in Wisconsin. This was a 5.5 pound duck and it was $39 here on Molokai. I remember buying them for $15 to $20 years ago in Wisconsin. We got two full meals out of it and it was just as good the next day.

So you roasted the duck with a rice stuffing. It looks like the skin is on. Is there a duck seasoning? With a wild duck , to me anyway, removing the skin improved the taste. The seasoning was salt and pepper f9r the m9st part.

Bill

 

[DrQ]

Most "wagyu" is marketing hooey.

Some wagyu links:

Nice video on the subject. From a ground beef perspective. But useful:

I get a chuckle every time I see a "Wagyu Burger" on the menu. Why would you take arguably the most tender beef and grind it up?

 

[slip]

So you roasted the duck with a rice stuffing. It looks like the skin is on. Is there a duck seasoning? With a wild duck , to me anyway, removing the skin improved the taste. The seasoning was salt and pepper f9r the m9st part.

Bill

Yep, we roasted it with Long grain and Wild rice, skin on and the crispy skin is delicious. We never removed the skin in wild duck either. I don't know about a duck seasoning. We just use salt and pepper.

 

[ScoopKona]

I get a chuckle every time I see a "Wagyu Burger" on the menu. Why would you take arguably the most tender beef and grind it up?

I used to work as the chef/butcher at a Las Vegas steakhouse which served real-deal Kobe. We had the snout-print to prove it. Occasionally, a guest was savvy enough to ask to see it.

There was a LOT of trim -- almost all fat. Usually five pounds or so each day. I took that home and ground it with the cheapest, leanest eye of round I could lay my hands on. Besides burgers, this made outstanding kielbasa. I stayed at this place much longer than most because the perks were so good.

During this time, the big distributors were defrauding the public with cases of "Kobe hot dogs." There wasn't so much as a gram of Japanese beef in these dogs. But since nobody enforces food labeling, the casinos all put Kobe dogs on the menu and charged a fortune for them. They paid pennies and sold these bogus dogs for $50 an order. Not once did a guest think to question the provenance of the meat.

 

[davidvel]

I used to work as the chef/butcher at a Las Vegas steakhouse which served real-deal Kobe. We had the snout-print to prove it. Occasionally, a guest was savvy enough to ask to see it.

There was a LOT of trim -- almost all fat. Usually five pounds or so each day. I took that home and ground it with the cheapest, leanest eye of round I could lay my hands on. Besides burgers, this made outstanding kielbasa. I stayed at this place much longer than most because the perks were so good.

During this time, the big distributors were defrauding the public with cases of "Kobe hot dogs." There wasn't so much as a gram of Japanese beef in these dogs. But since nobody enforces food labeling, the casinos all put Kobe dogs on the menu and charged a fortune for them. They paid pennies and sold these bogus dogs for $50 an order. Not once did a guest think to question the provenance of the meat.

What casinos had $50 Kobe hot dogs? Never seen those.

 

[T_R_Oglodyte]

I get a chuckle every time I see a "Wagyu Burger" on the menu. Why would you take arguably the most tender beef and grind it up?

No one takes a valuable cut of beef and grinds it up to sell it for less money. What processors do is convert trimmings to ground beef, rather than letting them go to waste. Snake River Farms does that, and if you want a Wagyu burger, you can purchase ground Wagyu on their website. I have a couple of pounds ground Wagyu in my freezer.

 

[Brett]

Red meat is back on the menu !