Yellow Stuff & Pink Stuff & Blue Stuff (Artificial Sweeteners In Packets).

[DebBrown]

Mosca,
I don't pretend to be an expert and in general, I tend toward being a skeptic. I don't doubt, though, that we'd all be better off putting as few extra chemicals into our bodies as possible.

Personally, because I do have pain issues, I'm trying to alleviate them naturally instead of taking more drugs to deal with the pain. If I feel better eating whole foods and avoiding artificial sweeteners, caffeine, MSG (the list goes on and on), then I know it is right for me.

Alan, we just returned from Spain and I noticed some products contained cyclamates. I mourned the day they were outlawed here because they were the sweetener used is "Fizzies"!

Deb

 

[Mosca]

Deb, I agree completely that everyone should make their own decision. I probably should have made it clearer that my intent wasn't to say that everyone should use the products, but that most of the "studies" showing that the products are unsafe are not actually studies.

I, too, have serious pain issues. For me, it's 3 ibuprofen at bedtime for a good night's sleep.

I firmly believe, blood tests and liver profiles to the contrary, that my muscle pains are caused by simvastatin (Zocor). But my doctors say that the benefits of the drug outweigh the side effects; I'm the perfect profile: 53, overweight male with a history of heart disease. On the other hand, I have trouble exercising, because my arms and legs hurt for days after a week of working out. Should I take the pills, which I can do without fail, or should I work out, with the probability that I will sometimes miss a day, or a few days in a row? Who knows. But I faithfully take the pills, every day.

 

[wackymother]

I firmly believe, blood tests and liver profiles to the contrary, that my muscle pains are caused by simvastatin (Zocor). But my doctors say that the benefits of the drug outweigh the side effects; I'm the perfect profile: 53, overweight male with a history of heart disease. On the other hand, I have trouble exercising, because my arms and legs hurt for days after a week of working out. Should I take the pills, which I can do without fail, or should I work out, with the probability that I will sometimes miss a day, or a few days in a row? Who knows. But I faithfully take the pills, every day.

Mosca, can you switch to another cholesterol medication? Some doctors will tell you they're all the same but they're not. DH has been on several and they all "feel" different to him.

 

[DebBrown]

I firmly believe, blood tests and liver profiles to the contrary, that my muscle pains are caused by simvastatin (Zocor).

I don't doubt it! Statins are known for this. Have you tried CoQ10 or B12 supplements? DH is also on a statin drug and the CoQ10 does wonders for him.

Deb

 

[wackymother]

BTW...we only use sugar, which is, of course, bad enough! You can gradually wean yourself off sugar in coffee and iced tea. Soon the bottled, sweetened iced teas will taste super-sweet to you!

Now if I could only kick my butter habit....

 

[RichM]

If aspartame were poison, I would have been dead long ago from the 3-4 liters of diet soda I drink per day.

I can't drink the stuff with the acesulfame potassium sweetener (Coke Zero, Pepsi One) because it gives me a headache.

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[DebBrown]

You may want to check out this link to a long list of food additives. They are evaluated for health risks by the Center for Science in the Public Interest. As far as I know, they are an independent non-partisan group.

http://www.cspinet.org/reports/chemcuisine.htm

Deb

 

[AwayWeGo]

Not Necessarily All That Independent -- Not That There's Anything Wrong With That.

They are evaluated for health risks by the Center for Science in the Public Interest. As far as I know, they are an independent non-partisan group.

Nonpartisan they may be, but they certainly have a pronounced & undisguised lefty-greeny orientation -- not that there's anything wrong with that.

Just make sure your Baloney Detector has fresh batteries & is switched on when evaluating what that group has to say. Declarations & findings from that group, like many other groups, are neither automatically Right nor automatically Wrong. Listen & read, keeping in mind that these days it is practically impossible to find a slant-free source of information. Then make up your own mind.

It's too bad science & environmental protection have become so heavily politicized in recent years, but there we are.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[DebBrown]

Nonpartisan they may be, but they certainly have a pronounced & undisguised lefty-greeny orientation -- not that there's anything wrong with that.

LOL! No, I don't find anything wrong this that. There exactly the kind of organization who would provide this kind of information. As always, everyone should come to their own conclusions as to what is healthy for themselves.

Deb

 

[Kona Lovers]

So, whussup with cyclamate now ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

Wasn't it the first to get attention that it caused cancer in laboratory rats after a gazillion megadoses?:hysterical:

Marty

 

[normab]

re cyclamates

Just my 2 cents--

Cyclamates have remained on the market in most European countries, for 40 years after removal from the US market.

Whatever studies were done in animals that supported the US withdrawal are now obsolete. There should be enough real data from human usage to prove that it's safe!!!!

But due to the regulatory food laws in the US and the litigious society it will never be sold in the US again.

 

[AwayWeGo]

Generic Yellow Stuff.

Until recently, wasn't all the yellow stuff a brand-name product called Splenda ?

At the supermarket just this afternoon, I noticed generic no-name yellow stuff in packages simply labeled Sucralose.

It was in the flour & sugar aisle, right there alongside the brand-name & generic pink stuff & blue stuff.

Who'd a-thunk ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[SDKath]

I firmly believe, blood tests and liver profiles to the contrary, that my muscle pains are caused by simvastatin (Zocor). But my doctors say that the benefits of the drug outweigh the side effects; .

Get another opinion - preferrably from a cardiologist (or lipid specialist). While I love statins for all their benefits, there are many other options out there (non-statins like Niaspan, Welchol...) and even once a week Crestor (the most potent statin) can do what Zocor daily does with less or no myalgia. I would encourage you to get someone else's input.

Katherine

 

[Transit]

Is it just an anomaly of my particular taste buds, or do others also find the yellow stuff (Splenda) much lower in sweetening power, packet for packet, than the blue stuff (Equal) or even the pink stuff (Sweet & Low) ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

It dosn't matter the color of the packet we know you seniors are pocketing all of them.

 

[Icc5]

Hazlenut creamers

Yup. I think I even saw it printed at some point either on some of the packets, though not recently. One yellow packet of Splenda is equal (no pun intended) to one teaspoonful of sugar. One pink packet is equal to 2 t. of sugar in sweetening, and one Equal is somewhere in between.

When I'm making my 'poor man's iced lattes', in a quart go-cup, in goes 1/2 full of coffee, 5 of the little vanilla or hazlenut creamers, 2 pink, or 3 blue, or 4 yellow packets. Fill with ice. Most c-stores will charge well under a buck and it'll last me several hours.

Mmm Good!

Jim Ricks

I don't know if you know this or not but since you are using non or low calorie sweetners you might be interested in using the same in hazelnut. I bought a large bottle of hazlenut sugar free syrup and pump top at my local Starbucks a year or so ago for making my homemade drinks.
Bart

 

[AwayWeGo]

Busted !

It dosn't matter the color of the packet we know you seniors are pocketing all of them.

Not quite all.

Pink stuff & blue stuff, yes -- if nobody's looking.

Yellow stuff, no.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​