Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[Arimaas]

Thats a harder sell when its all a membership. Having deeds lets them play the 2 types of membership off against each other, like Sandi said. The things are going to change for a membership is a more complex argument because they have to explain how it won't happen at the next level next year and so on.

Believe me, they will figure out a way to sell you more. Like HGVC, Marriott or any of the others do.

 

[paxsarah]

Common sense. If Wyndham was selling inventory at these places they wouldn't be pulling out. FF Glade doesn't have infrastructure issues. It's a very well maintained retirement community with a very active local community club.

The units are not outdated.

The resort amenities are not outdated, in fact many are very new.... They are all owned by the local community club and timeshare guests are just permitted to use them.

They are pulling out because they can't get enough new suckers to show up to buy their $0 value product for $10k or whatever made up number they come up with.

Wyndham isn't selling inventory at these places because they're not offering deeds for sale at these locations for sale (except maybe as piggybacks to another purchase). They've been out of active sales for years. The $0 product that the sales teams at these locations are selling for a made-up amount is CWA (and possibly newer deeded locations?), not these old deeds.

 

[randyz]

I didn’t imply any such thing. You stated above that large companies (Wyndham is a large company and the subject of this thread) lose in court every day. I simply asked you how many times Wyndham has lost in court this century. You named 1. In 25 years. That’s hardly losing every day. To me, and a few others here, it appears that Wyndham is being very careful in how they are handling these few resort closings/downsizings. You think it’s because they’re doing something shady or illegal. I think it’s because they are following the legal process and will make announcements, or the HOA’s will make announcements, when the votes have been counted, and thus, the decisions have actually been made. Like it or not, you’re going to have to wait for that process to play out.

My memory might be faulty, but I seem to recall that "Wyndham" (or it's other incarnations) has lost at least 2 significant legal actions. One being some sort of injunction against an RCI monopoly. The other I recall was that it lost a big case against the Worldmark Trust and had to take back a large number of Timeshare units.

 

[paxsarah]

Wyndham can add any of the deeds it owns (which is what it sells) to CWA that it wants. It could go to only selling CWA, but being able to tell people they are buying a deed rather than a membership probably appeals to about a significant portion of its target audience.

Do you think so? I think the majority of people buying in have no idea what they are buying and they could sell them a bridge in one of those meetings.

I don't know, a very common refrain I see in the Facebook groups (typically when someone asks about the difference between deeded and CWA because they've been to a sales meeting) is a loud subset that will advise "Never let them take your deed!" - not because the location might have lower maintenance fees, but because they believe there's some inherent worth to owning a deed instead of what they perceive as some sort of amorphous points in CWA (never mind the whole trust full of actual deeds backing up those points). And yet, the only time it really matters in the entire course of one's Club Wyndham ownership is exactly this situation - when the resort itself is sold or removed from the program. And while it may be great for the owners who have been looking for the best time to get out, it's historically been bad for the owners who actually had VIP ownerships they were still actively using (because unlike this time, in the past there was no free offer to swap into CWA, just a decrease in points and probably VIP level). A brand-new owner can be sold on the idea of real estate and it feeds the "investment" narrative.

 

[HitchHiker71]

It could also be that some people think they know what they own but when you start talking with them they really don't have any idea.

This right here is what sales counts on - then they can deploy the daze and confuse sales tactics to get people second guessing themselves and drive the unsuspecting owner toward another purchase for no good reason.

 

[bnoble]

Having deeds lets them play the 2 types of membership off against each other

Surely, the clever folks at Wyndham sales can figure out some other way to explain why what I own is Bad, and what I could buy is Better.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Oh easy. You need to have buy a minimum of X number of points before these changes come down at the end of the year, otherwise you will get locked out of using what you have and you'll never get a booking.

FOMO is the default sales tactic used almost universally by TS salespeople.

 

[chapjim]

More than 24 hours with no posts!

 

[cathyil21]

Wonder how they will handle our maintenance fees for 2026 with no resort week to use or trade.

 

[susieq]

Wonder how they will handle our maintenance fees for 2026 with no resort week to use or trade.

Was wondering this same thing ............ we own a floating week, so a little different. We paid 2026 fees last fall, (Sept.??), and received our week, which has been banked with RCI. Let's see if we get a bill for 2027 fees, if so a phone call will be in order..............

 

[cathyil21]

Was wondering this same thing ............ we own a floating week, so a little different. We paid 2026 fees last fall, (Sept.??), and received our week, which has been banked with RCI. Let's see if we get a bill for 2027 fees, if so a phone call will be in order..............

So you already used 2026 week? I have a specific week and by fate did not pay ahead like I have in the past. So assuming rci won't let me deposit my 2026 week

 

[Floridaman76]

I don't really know the answer, but when you own a Wyndham fixed/float week does that come with an RCI membership or do you have to pay separately for that. Regardless, i'm assuming this is a RCI points membership. The waters may be muddied if you have a converted fixed week and pay the program fee, i'm assuming you get an RCI membership as part of that but is it a points membership or the kind you get with CW.

If it comes with your ownership, and that's going to be terminated as of 1/1/2026, i'm guessing your RCI account will disappear with it. And with it, any points/TPU in there.

Also correct me if I am wrong, but the RCI membership we get as part of Club Wyndham is different than a normal RCI points membership and those points don't co-mingle.

Those are questions you better start asking NOW.

Also if you are a CW owner who deposited points into a future use year where the contract you will be losing was your ONLY CW ownership and you don't intend to take the CWA offering... betting you are losing those points

 

[Jan M.]

Also correct me if I am wrong, but the RCI membership we get as part of Club Wyndham is different than a normal RCI points membership and those points don't co-mingle.

That's correct.

 

[CO skier]

Those are questions you better start asking NOW.

That would prove to be nothing but an exercise in frustration.

Who are they supposed to ask NOW?

Not a single ownership status has changed as a result of the "Club contraction" announcement. RCI will not have a clue about anything to do with the upcoming, yet-to-be-determined outcome of voting at the resorts. No public facing Wyndham department will have a clue about anything to do with the upcoming, yet-to-be-determined outcome of voting at the resorts.

 

[Floridaman76]

That would prove to be nothing but an exercise in frustration.

Who are they supposed to ask NOW?

Not a single ownership status has changed as a result of the "Club contraction" announcement. RCI will not have a clue about anything to do with the upcoming, yet-to-be-determined outcome of voting at the resorts. No public facing Wyndham department will have a clue about anything to do with the upcoming, yet-to-be-determined outcome of voting at the resorts.

Asking questions now is certainly preferable till waiting till December when Wyndham will likely announce this and by then owners will have zero time to do anyting. Even though ownership changes have not taken place yet, Wyndham certainly has made decisions about what WILL happen when these ownership changes take place and has to, at this point, have guidance to give owners.

Who to ask for? Start with Owner Care. If you don't get an answer that satisfies you, keep calling. The more people do that, the more chances the affected owners will get real answers. Certainly Wyndham keeps metrics of calls, call types, etc and also certainly someone is monitoring this. If it moves the needle, Wymdham hopefully will start providing actual responses and giving real guidance.

I guess you are suggesting the method of procrastinating and hoping for the best... i'm sure that will work out.

If not, thoughts and prayers I guess.... that always works

 

[hjsweet2002]

More than 24 hours with no posts!

 

[hjsweet2002]

We are at Bentley Brook. HOA has not voted on closure yet. May hear more next month from HOA

 

[CO skier]

Asking questions now is certainly preferable till waiting till December when Wyndham will likely announce this and by then owners will have zero time to do anyting. Even though ownership changes have not taken place yet, Wyndham certainly has made decisions about what WILL happen when these ownership changes take place and has to, at this point, have guidance to give owners.

Unfortunately, no, this is most definitely not the case.

This is the kind of response that can be generally expected:

ff glade owner posted today [August 15] they tried to call wyndham cares/certified exit and were told they had to sell it themselves.

it truly is unreal how badly this is being handled on all fronts.

... but people are free to waste their time calling Wyndham if they want.

 

[Marianne g]

We are at Bentley Brook. HOA has not voted on closure yet. May hear more next month from HOA

Hi! I have a week reserved there in January. Have you heard anything about what will happen on 12/31 at BB? I appreciate any info you get!

 

[CO skier]

Hi! I have a week reserved there in January. Have you heard anything about what will happen on 12/31 at BB? I appreciate any info you get!

Even though ownership changes have not taken place yet, Wyndham certainly has made decisions about what WILL happen when these ownership changes take place and has to, at this point, have guidance to give owners.

Who to ask for? Start with Owner Care.

Good luck with that.

 

[TUGBrian]

if i were in the situation id still at least call. what do you have to lose?

 

[Marianne g]

if i were in the situation id still at least call. what do you have to lose?

Honestly I’ve called several times. Each time I get a different answer. They are closing 12/31 so I should cancel. Then I’m told we have no information at all. Then I’m told they may be operating under a different name so don’t cancel

 

[TUGBrian]

does appear the answer you get is determined by where you end up in the customer service labyrinth!

 

[bizaro86]

if i were in the situation id still at least call. what do you have to lose?

I mean - it's sort of like attending a sales presentation/"owner update". It's guaranteed to use up a bunch of your time with no possibility of yielding accurate/useful information.

 

[susieq]

So you already used 2026 week? I have a specific week and by fate did not pay ahead like I have in the past. So assuming rci won't let me deposit my 2026 week

Yes ~ Just looked up my confirmations. I paid the MF at the end of Sept. and received my week. I deposited it with RCI on December 3rd. It's sitting in my account. Correction on that though, I just looked at the dates of the reservation ~ the occupancy was for August 2025, so if we get a bill, it will be for the 2026 use year, and then the phone call will happen....