This is correct. I have both and tried to book with resale but could not. I had no trouble booking with developer.
It can be inferred that owners are already doing this of their own accord. There is so relatively little interest in the "old, cheap" resorts that Wyndham controls enough voting power to terminate some of these resorts. Meanwhile, the "expensive" resorts, such as Hawaii and Clearwater for example, are seeing the demand.
I am not sure this is the case. As an "underutilized" resort (by owners), it is EASY for any Bentley Brook owner to book a reservation there.
I'm not sure Bentley Brook is subsidizing anything. Bentley Brook gets medium hot temperatures in the summer and cold temperatures in the New England winter, so it's HVAC system is always running. It also needs snow removal. They have been very conscientious about keeping the place up, including revamping the rooms in one wing several years ago and undergoing a gigantic renovation in the main building this year. I've driven by several times and they had all kinds of shipping containers in the parking lot filled with new new furnishings for the rooms.
I'm not sure I get the point about owner occupancy. As long as a timeshare achieves high occupancy rates, what does it matter if it's owners or RCI exchangers?
I agree, hence my post, "I am not sure this [places like Bentley Brook really subsidizing places like Hawaii] [places like Bentley Brook are being booked at bargain prices, at the expense of the BB owners] is the case."
There is obviously a larger buyers market for a turnkey operation than there is for a fixer-upper resort. If the resort sells for $25M relatively soon versus languishing on the market for a year or two and not finding a buyer at $10M as a fixer-upper, then it was money well spent. Plus, Wyndham remodels dozens of resorts each year. It only make sense they would leverage that experience and bulk buying power to assist the HOA in the remodel (if that is what happened).
By the way, I know my post here was like a week old, and there's probably a lot of conversation after that, but I am just catching up. A small 175 square foot hotel room for these date (non-refundable) is $1538 total ad the Omni Hotel in the French Quarter, about $100 less than double the cost of Wyndham. A one bedroom suite at the same hotel, which I doubt has a full kitchen and free laundry faciltiies in the hotel, like the Wyndham has, is $4099, also non refundable. Boy am I glad I own Wyndham, really understand the system, and know how to get great value from my ownership, It's not the product i have a problem with.
Well, sure - they're selling them so they're likely making money vs spending money. Also, it's not just that they'd have to renovate the units - which they've done and do somewhat regularly - it's the other amenities that may be difficult to add in any reasonable way. Adding say a pool section, adding a sauna / steam room / etc. Adding arcades, movie theaters, stores, whatever Wyndham thinks is desirable in the other resorts might be a big deal. Now I don't know what it is Wyndham thinks is desirable of course - I'm just guessing above. For at least some like Fairfield Glade it's probably location, so of course you can't move a resort. I think the main one of confusion for TUGgers is Bently Brook - the others make more sense in being old resorts that are also in less desirable locations and making the resort itself the destination is ... probably never something Wyndham really does that I can think of, and would be incredibly expensive.
With respect to the "Fairfield Pagosa" listing... There are about 6 or 7 different HOAs in Pagosa Springs, all managed (now) by Wyndham. One, whose name escapes me, was closed by membership vote in 2024, and delisted from the Wyndham Pagosa group of resorts. This ~20 unit property is now for sale as individual, wholly-owned condos. I took a close exterior look at the place in June, 2025. Looks like there is about $200-$300k of deferred exterior maintenance for the common property, and, from what I could see through windows, about $40-$60k of interior renovations that will be required of each new owner. So, the Orlando example isn't necessarily the very first closure of a Wyndham-managed proeprty.View attachment 112930
** IMPORTANT **
Official Wyndham Statement as of 7-15-2025: https://clubwyndham.wyndhamdestinations.com/us/en/resorts/resort-news/2025/important-resorts-update
Please note with regard to any official public statement from Wyndham, that they must follow a plethora of rules and regulations regarding official/legal notifications for the impacted HOAs/resorts, including the Club Wyndham bylaws, the HOA bylaws, and state/county/township/local laws, etc., all of which are different for each impacted resort. It is a complex process. Those who are expressing frustration as to why Wyndham has not yet disclosed anything officially, please recognize that because there are explicit disclosure laws and processes that must be followed. Wyndham will likely provide a more detailed official statement after all required notifications have been completed. The next notification may or may not provide an explicit list of impacted resorts.
Below is a table we have built to track both CONFIRMED and POSSIBLE impacted resorts. Please note ANY resort marked as "NO" in the CONFIRMED column is merely POSSIBLE, but we have NO confirmation either way, just rumors at this time. Resorts listed as "PARTIAL" indicate we have backchannel information that is deemed reliable yet needs to be further confirmed via an official HOA BOD communication. The DISPOSITION column indicates how the resort is reportedly going to be handled after it is removed from the Club Wyndham system effective 12/31/2025. The values for this column are: TBD (To-Be-Determined), COMPLETE EXIT - meaning Wyndham owns the entirety of the resort and a complete exit is planned - and Wyndham is likely selling off the entire resort), WYNDHAM EXIT - meaning Wyndham does not own the entire resort, but it is exiting this resort for it's part - likely via a sale of the real estate owned. CONSOLIDATION - Wyndham is downsizing the amount of inventory at the resort - likely via eliminating one of multiple HOAs - but is not exiting the resort in entirety.
For comparison's sake, the CWA MFs are $8.13/k. Given the Wyndham missive indicates a CWA points swap will be offered, please use this as a measuring stick against the RESORT UDI MF documented below for the impacted resort, or if you own a converted fixed week, use your specific converted weeks contract $/k rate for comparison.
We will update this chart when we receive additional information over the coming days and weeks:
# RESORT NAME CONFIRMED? CONFIRMATION SOURCE DISPOSITION RESORT CLOSURE DATE RESORT UDI MF LEGACY RESORT? CWA RESORT? NOTES 1 Club Wyndham Fairfield Glade (TN) YES 
Wyndham Closing a number of resorts? -- Interesting rumor from one of the online FB groups
I'm probably being dense in how I'm reading this sentence, but are you defining "owners" as "People who own anywhere in the Wyndham system including CWA," or only as "people who own at that specific resort?" Because if it's the latter, I'd think a resort that lots of CWA owners stay at and lots...TBD 12/31/2025 $6.34/k YES YES Confirmed via a public newspaper article: https://www.crossville-chronicle.co...cle_a748ba2a-1f72-476e-b0a3-be55354548e0.html 2 Club Wyndham Orlando International (FL) YES Official HOA BOD vote on chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings scheduled for 8/5/2025 in preparation for resort sale. COMPLETE EXIT - RESORT SALE 12/31/2025 $7.16/k (2024) YES YES 3 Club Wyndham Patriot's Place (VA) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation TBD 12/31/2025 ~9.02/k (estimated) YES YES 4 Club Wyndham Bentley Brook (MA) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation 12/31/2025 $9.10/k YES NO 5 Club Wyndham Overlook (RI) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation TBD 12/31/2025 TBD YES YES 6 Club Wyndham Bay Voyage (RI) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation TBD 12/31/2025 TBD YES YES 7 Club Wyndham Shawnee (PA) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation WYNDHAM EXIT 12/31/2025 Varies by HOA YES YES It is possible this will be a downsize and not entirely removed - however details are still pending 8 Club Wyndham Skyline Tower (NJ) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation TBD 12/31/2025 $7.65/k (2024) YES YES 9 Club Wyndham Fairfield Bay (AR) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation TBD 12/31/2025 $9.88/k YES YES 11 Club Wyndham Branson at the Falls PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation CONSOLIDATION 12/31/2025 TBD YES YES This is a consolidation - one of the three HOAs within Branson is being impacted - only the Falls HOA specifically. 12 Club Wyndham Star Island (FL) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation CONSOLIDATION 12/31/2025 ~$9.02/k (estimated) YES YES 14 Club Wyndham Ocean Ridge (Edisto) (SC) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from Wyndham corporate - awaiting official public confirmation CONSOLIDATION 12/31/2025 Varies by phase/HOA YES YES A subset of the HOAs is rumored to be impacted 15 Club Wyndham Fairfield Mountains (NC) PARTIAL Reliable backchannel source with firsthand knowledge from the local resort - awaiting official public confirmation WYNDHAM EXIT 12/31/2025 TBD YES YES Speculative feedback regarding negotiations that Capital Vacations may take over the Wyndham sections.
What does "Legacy Resort" mean? It means this resort was one of the original Fairfield resorts from way back when. Below are screenshots of the legacy resorts from a very old Fairfield members directory from way back when. Please note we are NOT saying all of the resorts in the below screenshots are part of this action, we're only tracking whether or not the resorts in the table above are or are not part of this category as some TUGGERs are curious about this data point.
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I’ve seen lots of reports that people still can or have recently booked those resorts. The only post to the contrary is I think a misinterpretation of the “Unable to book” message - that’s just a glitch that affects some owners periodically (see the glitchy website thread), unrelated to the closures. I haven’t seen anyone post a blocked-out calendar, for instance.
We don't really know what will happen with weeks at these resorts that are owned by CWA. If they swap those weeks for CWA, then it just adds to weeks in CWA at those resorts. Why would Wyndham take on that risk. They are trying to unload these resorts due to high maintenance fees. Until and unless they can find someone willing to buy all those CWA weeks, I doubt they will add any more to CWA.
And sided all buildings and put new roofs on all building. I also heard they reconfigured some rooms but don't know details on that.
considering Wyndham probably owns at least 60 percent of the rooms, Wyndham is paying maint. just like every other owner. So for them to continue renovations despite expecting to sell, must mean it is a worthwhile investment. Think of it like redoing your kitchen to make it more saleable.
Not all of the deeds wyndham takes back go into the trust. Also, just because its in the trust doesn't mean Wyndham doesn't pay mf. , Wyndham owns all the unsold points, so they are paying the mf on those points.
good question on the week 52 folks.