Wyndham is closing a handful of legacy resorts - dedicated chart/tracker located in the first post for this unfolding set of events

[paxsarah]

I would be absolutely shocked if Newport OnShore (you said Off Shore, I assumed you meant OnShore) is on the chopping block. It's hands down the best Wyndham in Newport. Long Wharf/Inn on Long Wharf can fight it out for who is #2 and #3.

There is going to be some absolutely livid fixed week owners if that comes to pass.

Those summer fixed weeks still bring in a fair amount of money and it's extremely difficult to impossible to get a room from late May through mid September using points.

Those resorts never show up on Extra Holidays, RCI or Wyndham Rewards Hotel website except during winter which is low season.

I think he must be mistaken on that one because while the other resorts really do have their calendars blocked out on Extra Holidays (good catch, RENTER!) starting on January 1, Onshore does not. It's totally bookable on EH from winter into spring.

 

[Floridaman76]

I think he must be mistaken on that one because while the other resorts really do have their calendars blocked out on Extra Holidays (good catch, RENTER!) starting on January 1, Onshore does not. It's totally bookable on EH from winter into spring.

Inn on the Harbor is the least attractive site in Newport proper, but it still seems weird they would willingly give up rooms there. In season it's still about impossible to book there. Again, I heard they were doing renovations there too right now.

 

[paxsarah]

Inn on the Harbor is the least attractive site in Newport proper, but it still seems weird they would willingly give up rooms there. In season it's still about impossible to book there. Again, I heard they were doing renovations there too right now.

Interesting. While the others are blocked starting January 1, Inn on the Harbor is blocked starting November 1, so maybe that's because of renovations and not because it's part of this group being sold. Edit: and actually that lines up with the renovation closure dates for it on the Club Wyndham website under its resort alerts. Although on EH it doesn't come back in May, but that's probably just to be safe in case it runs over.

 

[Floridaman76]

Interesting. While the others are blocked starting January 1, Inn on the Harbor is blocked starting November 1, so maybe that's because of renovations and not because it's part of this group being sold. Edit: and actually that lines up with the renovation closure dates for it on the Club Wyndham website under its resort alerts. Although on EH it doesn't come back in May, but that's probably just to be safe in case it runs over.

So it it comes back, that means it's probably not on the chopping block.

My chief complaint with that location is the rooms are laid out real weird, like a hotel suite would be, but backwards. You walk in from the hallway immediately to the bedroom. Then there's a little hallway straight back to the living room, with the bathroom on one side of the hallway and the mini kitchen on the other, and a smallish living room, but at least (most) of the units have a nice view out the living room. I don't know if it was like this in all units but our bedroom did not have a door between it and the rest of the unit. I only stayed there once.

 

[RENTER]

I would be absolutely shocked if Newport OnShore (you said Off Shore, I assumed you meant OnShore) is on the chopping block. It's hands down the best Wyndham in Newport. Long Wharf/Inn on Long Wharf can fight it out for who is #2 and #3.

There is going to be some absolutely livid fixed week owners if that comes to pass.

Those summer fixed weeks still bring in a fair amount of money and it's extremely difficult to impossible to get a room from late May through mid September using points.

Those resorts never show up on Extra Holidays, RCI or Wyndham Rewards Hotel website except during winter which is low season.

I checked again. Onshore has rooms. I checked January. But you may be right. Offshore was not listed so I could check. So, if it never showed in the past it may not show up now But I did check January. Going to try something else

 

[RENTER]

I would be absolutely shocked if Newport OnShore (you said Off Shore, I assumed you meant OnShore) is on the chopping block. It's hands down the best Wyndham in Newport. Long Wharf/Inn on Long Wharf can fight it out for who is #2 and #3.

There is going to be some absolutely livid fixed week owners if that comes to pass.

Those summer fixed weeks still bring in a fair amount of money and it's extremely difficult to impossible to get a room from late May through mid September using points.

Those resorts never show up on Extra Holidays, RCI or Wyndham Rewards Hotel website except during winter which is low season.

I don't see anywhere where you can book offshore as a guest. If you could not do it in the past then it is possible that it will not be included. You can book onshore

 

[Roger830]

Inn on the Harbor is the least attractive site in Newport proper, but it still seems weird they would willingly give up rooms there. In season it's still about impossible to book there. Again, I heard they were doing renovations there too right now.

Inn on the Harbor is closed for renovations from Nov 1 to May 1 as noted on the website resort page. I mentioned this in post #6.

Later in May wasn't opened when I checked yesterday.

 

[ChristopherHM]

Hmm … as a deeded owner at Fairfield Glade , im just waiting to see what options are presented to us . I did read something about a transfer to CWA at no cost . They’ve been trying to get me to do just that at almost every meeting we attend. To be honest , i’d love to see an exit option

 

[CO skier]

I doubt we will see more formal announcements or even a list of properties from corp. probably just the required notices to owners of impacted properties and certain properties going “offline” for reservations after 12/31.

The release says just that, "Owners with interest in these locations will be contacted by their HOA board directly."

The notifications will be piecemeal directly from each HOA, and that may not occur until the Special Meeting notices. If past is prologue, those notices might not go out until November for December Special Meetings.

 

[RENTER]

Lake Marion appears safe. Can book there in January

 

[Rolltydr]

Hmm … as a deeded owner at Fairfield Glade , im just waiting to see what options are presented to us . I did read something about a transfer to CWA at no cost . They’ve been trying to get me to do just that at almost every meeting we attend. To be honest , i’d love to see an exit option

Is yours developer or resale? Mine is resale and I want to know if we will get the same “no cost” offer. I’m very doubtful. I also understand why they wouldn’t. Like I said earlier, I’ll just be glad to get lower my mf’s by giving that deed.

 

[Sandi Bo]

Is yours developer or resale? Mine is resale and I want to know if we will get the same “no cost” offer. I’m very doubtful. I also understand why they wouldn’t. Like I said earlier, I’ll just be glad to get lower my mf’s by giving that deed.

That will be interesting to see how that plays out. Mostly out of curiousity, I don't own any affected properties. Good luck to all involved directly!

 

[Sandi Bo]

Hmm … as a deeded owner at Fairfield Glade , im just waiting to see what options are presented to us . I did read something about a transfer to CWA at no cost . They’ve been trying to get me to do just that at almost every meeting we attend. To be honest , i’d love to see an exit option

I don't own any affected properties, but that's what I'd be doing if I did. (I thought what a shame someone mentioned earlier that someone was able to turn in their BB deeds to CE since this news came out. Not a move I would have made).

 

[Sandi Bo]

So... any (positive please) thoughts on any chance to get Wyndham to reconsider any of these decisions. I don't see anyone happy abount Bentley Brook (and I'm sure cases could be built for others). Anything we can do, as owners, to have any affect on the outcome.

We lost Crotched Mountain, another nice NE ski resort (that yes, we used). Smuggs is not a favorite of mine, maybe we picked a bad week, but it was hard to get to (bad weather, bad roads) and it is NOT for younger kids. It really was too 'expert' for me. So, not thank you t any suggestions we go to Smuggs.

Another losss was Mills House in Charleston. That was tough to book, but the best Wyndham option in Charleston. It quietly disappeared from the Wyndham inventory / options.

It will be interesting to hear what Wyndham has to say once they do make any statements regarding this. Are the days of 'we are expanding to offer more options / areas' over. Sincerely interested in the business plan behind this.

And... back to my original question, any chance we can have any affect on these decisions?

 

[bnoble]

Mine is resale and I want to know if we will get the same “no cost” offer. I’m very doubtful.

Given that CWA is essentially free on the resale market, what difference does it make? If they make the offer, consider it. If they don't, the ebay world is your oyster!

 

[bnoble]

And... back to my original question, any chance we can have any affect on these decisions?

I don't think so. If it were me, I would not waste my emotional energy on it. I might instead look for other non-Wyndham (and maybe non-timeshare) NE ski options.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Patriot's Place is on the list, yet it is in the middle of a major renovation right now. About half of the units are complete, and they spent a lot of money on it. IMHO the renovated units are nicer than many units at resort not being closed down. Does anyone know of any other resorts that have been renovated during 2025 that are on the list?

BB, Shawnee (non-Crestview units), Skyline, and a few others also were either recently renovated or are in the process of being renovated. Renovations help to increase the value of the real estate asset when it comes time to sell. If Wyndham actually holds the majority of inventory at these older resorts, as has been surmised given Wyndham has the HOA votes in the bag, due to deedbacks, foreclosures, etc., then it is a fact Wyndham that has paid for most of the renovations via the reserves funds. If Wyndham is the single largest owner, then they have also paid the largest amount toward the renovations in scope.


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[HitchHiker71]

I have mentioned this already, but I am one of the KBV owners caught in that resort's quagmire. (See this forum for all the gory details.) I would much rather go through an orderly wind-down than to spend approximately $500K per 2BR unit to try to bring it back up to snuff---and that's just the structural issues, and before you have to renovate all the interiors to the studs.

Yes, this means that the resort will no longer be part of the overall system. But what is the alternative? Imposing the necessary SA, which leads to a plurality (and probably a majority) of the owners defaulting. Wyndham then has to recover those deeds, probably through expensive and time-consuming foreclosure, and fold them into CWA. This defers the necessary repairs, raising their costs, and leaves the trust owners to pay for the renovation of the buildings. Yes, that is spread over many more owners so it is less painful. But, Wyndham in its role as the management company is arguably acting in its duty to owners to close the resorts instead.


I don't believe there will be any. At least for the ones we know so far, I don't think it matters. Starting just over two weeks from today, Glade is completely open for 2BR units for nearly every single day over the next many months. Bay is completely open starting next Monday. I mean, some people are booking these resorts, but mostly they are slack in the system. Bently Brook is busier, and losing that one will be a bummer, but still.

The plural of anecdote is not data, but in almost 20 years of ownership, I have booked exactly one of the resorts listed in the first post, (Orlando Innterational) once. None of the others beyond Edisto were even on my "that might be a place I'd stay" radar.

What's more, I suspect that this is being done in part because the inflow of inventory via Certified Exit and/or resort developement and acquisition has exceeded the pace of sales. Wyndham is not going to carry that inventory forever, and keeping it on the books means other owners who want to exit cannot, because there is a backlog of inventory. If I am correct, then doing an equity swap of some resort-specific deeds for CWA helps clear that backlog, and makes it easier to unload resorts that are entering a period of prohibitively expensive maintenance, have lagging demand, or both.

I know we all assume the worst of Wyndham---and that is often with good reason. But, let's see how this unfolds before we tar and feather everyone in sight.

Very well said @bnoble! You have a way with words...

 

[dioxide45]

BB, Shawnee (non-Crestview units), Skyline, and a few others also were either recently renovated or are in the process of being renovated. Renovations help to increase the value of the real estate asset when it comes time to sell. If Wyndham actually holds the majority of inventory at these older resorts, as has been surmised given Wyndham has the HOA votes in the bag, due to deedbacks, foreclosures, etc., then it is a fact Wyndham that has paid for most of the renovations via the reserves funds. If Wyndham is the single largest owner, then they have also paid the largest amount toward the renovations in scope.


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But Wyndham may only control those unit weeks via CWA votes, they may not actually own them outright. So it is still possible that CWA owners have paid for the renovations. That said, when a resort is sold and inventory is in CWA, who gets the residuals. Does it go into the CWA trust to offset future fees?

 

[Rolltydr]

Given that CWA is essentially free on the resale market, what difference does it make? If they make the offer, consider it. If they don't, the ebay world is your oyster!

Ebay? First, of all, it’s not worth my time and effort. Second, How could you sell a timeshare that has an end-date of 12/31/2025?

 

[HitchHiker71]

I would be absolutely shocked if Newport OnShore (you said Off Shore, I assumed you meant OnShore) is on the chopping block. It's hands down the best Wyndham in Newport. Long Wharf/Inn on Long Wharf can fight it out for who is #2 and #3.

There is going to be some absolutely livid fixed week owners if that comes to pass.

Those summer fixed weeks still bring in a fair amount of money and it's extremely difficult to impossible to get a room from late May through mid September using points.

Those resorts never show up on Extra Holidays, RCI or Wyndham Rewards Hotel website except during winter which is low season.

Newport Onshore is not in scope for these actions. The two RI resorts in scope are Overlook and Bay Voyage - already on our tracking list.

 

[bnoble]

Ebay? First, of all, it’s not worth my time and effort. Second, How could you sell a timeshare that has an end-date of 12/31/2025?

I meant for buying, not for selling.

There are two possibilities. One: they extend a "make whole" offer to all owners, including resale owners, and swap your resort-specific deeds for CWA beneficial trusts at no cost. Two: They don't offer that, at which point you can pick up as many CWA points as you want for next to nothing. Or, you can pay a little more and get low-MF deeds.

Alterantively, you can just take this as a graceful exit.

 

[Arimaas]

Is yours developer or resale? Mine is resale and I want to know if we will get the same “no cost” offer. I’m very doubtful. I also understand why they wouldn’t. Like I said earlier, I’ll just be glad to get lower my mf’s by giving that deed.

Mine is resale. And i would bet we get the same offer as everyone else. They need our deeds, whether they are resale or developer.

 

[HitchHiker71]

You can't make this stuff up, but I got an email from sales today saying someone would be reaching out to me about my account.

And just got home from work, a call from 407 area code which is Orlando. Who was there?

You guessed it, Telesales...

That was a fun conversation.

Are any of your deeds on the list? If so, did they bring this topic up as part of the sale? This is exactly what is not supposed to happen given everyone will be offered equivalent CWA points at no cost. If this did happen, please let me know, as I have been asked to report instances of this directly to one of the EVPs at Wyndham.

 

[HitchHiker71]

Mine is resale. And i would bet we get the same offer as everyone else. They need our deeds, whether they are resale or developer.

We asked if resale would get the same deal, we haven't heard back yet from Wyndham on this item.