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Worldmark Mgt Report - Highlights from Q2 report

ecwinch

ecwinch

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Marriott Harbour Point (HP), Kauai Beach Villas, Riverside Suites, WorldMark Pts (WM), Wyndham Pts
The following are highlights from the Q2 Mgt Report that Wyndham makes to the WM BoD every quarter.

By end of 2019 – all WorldMark resorts should have upgraded WiFi

New Resorts
Moab resort construction - delivery Q4/2020 and new SoCal resort near Temecula (north of San Diego, East of LA):

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Boy Murrieta is a place I always wanted to stay. It is always on the top of the list when Members talk about new places for Resorts. We can hardly wait until it is open.
 
Hopefully the estimated delivery date of TBD becomes "Never mind. We were just seeing if anyone would buy that we were actually putting a timeshare in Murrieta." It's kind of telling that they have to put a map on the highlight page.
 
Arg. When I'd first heard the rumor of "near Temecula" my brain assumed "in the Temecula Wine Country" ... that is, southeast of Temecula. I'd figured, cool, I might even try a wine-country horse ride. My brain never guessed Murrieta. Yep, seems a strange choice ... but if the pools are good ... I'll visit in the hot months, mid-week, as a retreat.
 
As noted elsewhere, these were the initial reactions to Indio.
 
We have thought for years that Temecula would be a great place for a Worldmark. I guess Murrieta is close enough. We just spent our first full week in Pismo (we go for four days at a time several times a year since it is four hours away), and have the same week next year "because it was there". As we were leaving we commented that once we move to the Carlsbad CCRC there will be no reason to ever go to Pismo again as a destination since we will be living at the beach. But having a new resort in Murietta will be great to take a break from the Old Folks Home!
 
clifffaith said:
We have thought for years that Temecula would be a great place for a Worldmark. I guess Murrieta is close enough. We just spent our first full week in Pismo (we go for four days at a time several times a year since it is four hours away), and have the same week next year "because it was there". As we were leaving we commented that once we move to the Carlsbad CCRC there will be no reason to ever go to Pismo again as a destination since we will be living at the beach. But having a new resort in Murietta will be great to take a break from the Old Folks Home!
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I have to say, the above made me think of this:

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ecwinch said:
The following are highlights from the Q2 Mgt Report that Wyndham makes to the WM BoD every quarter.

By end of 2019 – all WorldMark resorts should have upgraded WiFi

New Resorts
Moab resort construction - delivery Q4/2020 and new SoCal resort near Temecula (north of San Diego, East of LA):

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Amazing to me that Worldmark has plans for or recently completed new resorts where others like Marriott are selling off land and cutting back on long standing expansion plans.
 
My Dad and his wife lived in Murrieta for several years. The only thing I recall them mentioning about Murrieta is that the traffic was so bad that they could only leave the house for errands and such mid day. We experienced that as well when we visited so I know they weren't exaggerating. I know there is a golf course or two nearby, but nothing else of interest that I can recall.
 
JohnPaul said:
As noted elsewhere, these were the initial reactions to Indio.
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Indio does host the Coachella festival, which is a huge draw. Murrieta has what?

Maybe proximity to wineries will be its saving grace.


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So build more resorts that are highly sought for three weeks a year?
 
Members from cold climates
Proximity to San Diego/LA

There are other timeshares in the area - 3 Welk resorts - it will find it's following just like Indio. It does not need to be the best or perfect location, to be a good location.
 
Doesn't the past lawsuit play into this in some way? I thought WM was under an obligation to continue to ensure a certain percentage of units adhere to the original points charts, meaning that for every "Estancia" type development they open, they've got to balance it with somewhere "cheap" they can open at original point chart rates - hence places like Murrieta. I could be remembering this all wrong.
 
ocdb8r said:
Doesn't the past lawsuit play into this in some way? I thought WM was under an obligation to continue to ensure a certain percentage of units adhere to the original points charts,
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No, this was not part of the lawsuit settlement. The settlement affirmed the Developer's right to bring new resorts into WorldMark at credit values deemed "reasonable" by the Developer.

I am sure that Murrieta will not be a "cheap" resort, but it might be a good value for the area like many other WorldMark resorts.

Wyndham has brought some "original points charts" resorts online -- Palm Springs Plaza, Pagosa Springs, Shawnee Village as a few examples. Owners commonly complain that these resorts are not up to "WorldMark standards".
 
ecwinch said:
Members from cold climates
Proximity to San Diego/LA

There are other timeshares in the area - 3 Welk resorts - it will find it's following just like Indio. It does not need to be the best or perfect location, to be a good location.
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IIRC, Welk has one or more resorts on the coast in that area. A better option would have been a new resort actually on the coast/beach in that area. WM Oceanside is far from it.

In any case, the new resort debate is not something I get too worked up over. At least until I can move westward.


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Moab, yes! Murrieta, bizarre.
Speaking of WiFi, is it going to be free? This is the only timeshare system I own that still charges for WiFi. Went to Klamath Falls last month. Great resort but no cellular signal inside the unit. We had to cough up the money for WiFi :(
 
Murrieta as a "Disneyland" location:

By Rail:
By Bus:
(Ummm ... guess who just bought new Disneyland Annual Passes?? I've been trying to figure out the best/cheapest/easiest ways to reach DL from the Temecula area.)
 
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On WMOWNERS 2 people that have visited this area many times have nothing good to say about this area. The visited because family located there or their Church owned property there.
 
geist1223 said:
On WMOWNERS 2 people that have visited this area many times have nothing good to say about this area. The visited because family located there or their Church owned property there.
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I'm not comfortable with the WM Clear Lake area either ... but the property itself is peaceful and attractive.
 
We use to stop at Clear Lake for a day or two of peace and quiet on our way to or coming from Windsor. We have not done this in several years. It just became too out of the way.
 
My son and his girlfriend also bought annual passes now that they live in SoCal, but have not found time to visit yet. There are a lot of blackout dates and the entire summer season is not good for pass-holders. Hope you have better luck than them.

rhonda said:
Murrieta as a "Disneyland" location:

By Rail:
By Bus:
(Ummm ... guess who just bought new Disneyland Annual Passes?? I've been trying to figure out the best/cheapest/easiest ways to reach DL from the Temecula area.)
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LisaH said:
My son and his girlfriend also bought annual passes now that they live in SoCal, but have not found time to visit yet. There are a lot of blackout dates and the entire summer season is not good for pass-holders. Hope you have better luck than them.
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We purchased the new FLEX pass and are really happy with it thus far. This pass includes the summer months (phew!) using a "reservation" system.
 
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