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Yeah. Thanks. I was able to use the linked article- and links embedded therein to get access to MS's update site and get in my request for Win10 (yeah, I know I said I was gonna wait). It also has instructions to do a Windows update to check if your drivers are up-to-date and the machine is ready to upgrade. There was also a lengthy list of the (daily- even hourly) updates to Win10. Yes, there have been some bugs uncovered. Some are surprises, and some, not so surprising- like that since MS is rolling out their new Edge browser, Firefox doesn't work so well.
 

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As I said in the previous post, I requested the upgrade- even though I said I was going to wait. Liar, liar, pants on fire. Got the email back that said it would be coming along in days- or weeks. Well, lo and behold 3 hours later it was downloaded and ready to install. A couple of clicks to check if my hardware was compatible, and a screen said to go away and let it do it's thing for a while. Less than 2 hours later it was done. I let it install in 'express' mode, 'cause I was fixing dinner.

Long story short, it was painless. And I like it. My pictures re available with a click- or touch in the 'new' Start menu. I wondered how to shut down the computer, 'cause swiping in from the right border doesn't produce a menu, but 'Power' is one of the selections in the Start Menu. Leave it to Windows to have you click 'Start' to shut down. The more things change, the more they're the same.

Still have some customizing to do, but it seems manageable.

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Dedided to get a chromebook for my needs.

I will wait a bit to load Windows 10 on my desktop. I never got used to Windows 8 after all, and I hate the learning curve. Most times when I use my desktop, I go to the older version of Windows to find myself around.

Meanwhile, I decided to ditch my older laptop which was running Windows Vista :eek: and get a chromebook. I am VERY HAPPY. My research confirmed its popularity, ease of use, and growing acceptance. was worried about not being able to use my Word files, power points, etc. Free cloud storage, anti-virus built in...Not a problem at all! Well under $200 - and I probably couldn't even load Windows 10 on this old laptop at any cost!

Here is some of the research I considered:

Top 10 reasons to consider a chromebook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqDVB2xYXo

https://www.google.com/chromebook/about/
 

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Office 365 is a subscription for $99/yr. I wonder what will happen with Adobe Open Office and Win10.

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Well, to answer my own question, Adobe Open Office 4.1.1 is the newest, most current version, and after a couple of tests, it loaded (on Win 10), it opened the documents I have, and seems to be just as stable as it was on Win8.1 and below.

For my purposes, I see no reason to get involved with Office 365. So there, take that, Microsoft!

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I wondered how to shut down the computer, 'cause swiping in from the right border doesn't produce a menu, but 'Power' is one of the selections in the Start Menu.

Swiping in from the right does produce a menu, different from 8.1 menu. I am not in front of my computer so don't recall if power options were on it, but it was like a notification center and has quick action tasks (e.g., wifi, bluetooth, et al.)
 

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Swiping in from the right does produce a menu, different from 8.1 menu. I am not in front of my computer so don't recall if power options were on it, but it was like a notification center and has quick action tasks (e.g., wifi, bluetooth, et al.)

Yeah, that's called the 'Action Center'. There's a link where you can sign up for Office 365 as well as some settings- like Airplane Mode, 'Rotation lock', Bluetooth settings, Note, and some other stuff. Kinda handy, really. But 'Power' is found by either touching the 'Windows' icon (lower left of the screen) or the Windows key on the keyboard. Power (sleep, shut down, restart) choices are at lower left. Once you catch on to MS's age-old trick of pushing 'Start' to shut it down (???) it all makes sense.

Windows 10 has made my touch-screen 'convertible' (it folds the keyboard back into a tablet-like device) much more functional than 8.1 ever did. I'm glad I made the change.

IMO, this SHOULD have been the successor to Windows 7 instead of 8.

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Windows 10 has made my touch-screen 'convertible' (it folds the keyboard back into a tablet-like device) much more functional than 8.1 ever did. I'm glad I made the change.

Jim

Good to know. What specifically makes it more functional? I have a similar 2-in-1 laptop, but haven't yet upgraded (just lazy) to Windows 10.
 

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Good to know. What specifically makes it more functional? I have a similar 2-in-1 laptop, but haven't yet upgraded (just lazy) to Windows 10.

Partly that in Windows 8, a casual swipe of the pointer would zoom the content in or out, and in 10 one needs to first go to settings to zoom. I know that is a hardware issue with just my notebook, but nonetheless 10 remedied it. And the functionality of the Windows key, or Windows symbol (bottom left) or Windows button when in tablet mode are just more functional. They DO more.
 

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Windows 10 Deal or No Deal?

We have upgraded 4 computers to Windows 10 since Friday. We had reserved the upgrade and it just popped up Thursday on the first one and asked if I was ready to upgrade or schedule it. I chose schedule thinking I would wait a month or so, but I only had Thursday, Friday, or Saturday to choose from. I chose Saturday a 6PM so that I would have time to do a back-up and an image before I did it. It went flawlessly.

I like it. I like Edge, but have not been able to fined an Ad Blocker for it. It sure has zillions of ads, even when I opted out of most everything. So, for now, I am staying with Firefox with AdBlocker Plus for my default browser. and I can keep my favorites folders in the left sidebar. I still click on the Edge a couple of times a day just to become familiar with it.

Here are a few of my observations:
  1. Do not click a link offering a free upgrade to Windows 10 - it is Ransomware and very nasty problem
  2. If you have Windows Automatic Updates turned on (and you should). you will be notified when upgrade is available to you
  3. When upgrading you will lose ALL of your cookies that remember your logins and passwords so make a list of those first
  4. Favorites Bar (if you use it) will be lost but under "Settings" you can restore it along with all of your "Favorites"
  5. It is probably safer to wait until service pack 1 is out once they have fixed the bugs that show up. You have 12 months for the free upgrade
  6. Many API's will not work, you will find some videos on web sites won't work. YouTube videos won't work initially but after about 3-5 minutes they begin to work.
  7. If you find a link that does not work, you have the option in "Settings" to open with Internet Explorer

I found my computer to be very unstable after upgrading. Outlook 2010 crashed every 30 minutes for about three hours. I was almost ready to pull the plug and downgrade. Now, 36 hours later, it has become very stable. If you hated Windows 8x, you will really enjoy Windows 10, bet of both worlds in my opinion. they still have removed Windows Media Player so you can pay $15 for a stripped down version of download some of the free players.
 

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Windows 10 Forced Updates Causing Endless Crash Loops - by Gordon Kelly/ Tech/ forbes.com

"I think we can now all agree: Microsoft MSFT +0.3%’s hardline policy on Windows 10’s forced updates is silly. Very silly. Since launching nine days ago Windows Update has sent out an unstable graphics driver which switched off monitors, a buggy security patch which corrupted Windows Explorer and there are now widespread reports that a third update is causing Window 10 machines to crash over and over again…

The patch in question is KB3081424 (ironically enough a roll-up of bug fixes) and during its update process affected users find it fails and triggers the message: “We couldn’t complete the updates, undoing the changes.” Undoing them results in a mandatory system reboot, but as soon as the user logs back on Windows 10’s update process kicks in and tries to install KB3081424 again..."

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Windows 10 will be great, but it needs more time – Image credit Microsoft



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Good Win 10 download experience

I was able to download it by my little old self! I had trouble with Cortana but flipped a switch I read about and it worked. However, I am having problems with Cortana now. :-(
She keeps say "something's not right."

Cortana fun video www.screencast.com/t/n2YrdnKO
 
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Here are a few of my observations:
  1. When upgrading you will lose ALL of your cookies that remember your logins and passwords so make a list of those first

All of my passwords and cookies ported over when I ported over my favorites. I'm all good.
 

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All of my passwords and cookies ported over when I ported over my favorites. I'm all good.

Mine didn't, and I'm not 100% thrilled with the way Edge imported my Favorites, but I don't have so many that I can't rebuild a fav's list in short order. In fact it wouldn't hurt me to prune out some stale ones that I haven't opened for a few years.
 

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All of my passwords and cookies ported over when I ported over my favorites. I'm all good.

My passwords, cookies, and frustrations with 8.1 all ported over perfectly. From my perspective, this in't a new OS, but a new skin put on the 8 OS to halt complaints about the missing start button. My applications still run painfully slow. Outlook won't download any of my Hotmail emails that came after 3/24, the day I originally bought a new laptop and set up Outlook, then decided I didn't like the laptop and returned it.
 

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I was able to download it by my little old self! I had trouble with Cortana but flipped a switch I read about and it worked. However, I am having problems with Cortana now. :-(
She keeps say "something's not right."

Cortana video www.screencast.com/t/n2YrdnKO

The video is kinda cute to make Cortana seem less daunting for new users. Not so much to give users an idea how to make it a valuable digital assistant. Like telling 'her' where you work, and having 'her' check your route there against traffic reports- re-routing you if there is a problem on your usual route.

As to your problem with it, it worked for a while. I'd guess there is a setting switched off somewhere. Check troubleshooting on the Web. Is it connected to the internet? Can you type a simple question in the search box? (What time is it?) Is your computer's microphone on? Does it hear you? I had to read a script to get 'her' used to my voice. There isn't that much that the individual user can screw up for Cortana not to work. It's built into the OS, and if your computer has a good broadband connection, and the computer's microphone is on (can you make a Skype call?), there's not much else to set. Even though the DS is in charge of Cortana and Bing apps, just between us, Amazon Echo is a better digital assistant/media player. DS seemed a little put out when I told him that. I've had Cortana in my phone for a couple of years.
 
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I was able to download it by my little old self! I had trouble with Cortana but flipped a switch I read about and it worked. However, I am having problems with Cortana now. :-(
She keeps say "something's not right."

Cortana video www.screencast.com/t/n2YrdnKO
Cute video! I laughed a few times... thanks for sharing.
 

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I haven't had any problems once I got used to it. And I was able to import all my old 'favorites.' So far, so good.
 

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My passwords, cookies, and frustrations with 8.1 all ported over perfectly. From my perspective, this in't a new OS, but a new skin put on the 8 OS to halt complaints about the missing start button. My applications still run painfully slow. Outlook won't download any of my Hotmail emails that came after 3/24, the day I originally bought a new laptop and set up Outlook, then decided I didn't like the laptop and returned it.

Sounds more like a computer problem than an OS problem! Processor, memory, etc. I don't know anything about Outlook but it appears your not the only one with this problem https://www.google.com/search?q=outlook will not download hotmail&gws_rd=ssl
 

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I gave up and went to the Microsoft Store in Sarasota yesterday. No one seemed to have any idea why all my documents were now read only. They tried multiple things, even reinstalled Office 2010. Nothing worked so they took MS10 out and went back to Windows 7. But guess what??? my docs are still all read only, which they were not before I loaded 10. So after an hour and a half, I agreed to leave the laptop there so they can analyze it. Funny that the system was working perfect until I loaded 10 and now no one seems to know how to get me back to that stage. Can't wait till they call to tell me what they found...probably need a whole new laptop, right???:( Today my dh got rid of 10 and went back to 7. His laptop, which I am using, was doing all sorts of nutty things, i.e.....could not connect with Gmail, kept telling us every program we tried to open wasn't responding, etc. We never had these issues before so I have to blame it on 10. I wish all of you who have downloaded it the best of luck.
 

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I'm usually on to new MS operating systems very quickly but the job I got when I returned home is in a pure Apple shop, thousands of Macs, iPads, and iPhones. We've already pushed out Office 2016 to pretty much everyone. It doesn't look like a lot of new features have been added but rather the interface is cleaner. Outlook no longer looks like the dog's breakfast it was, but has a nice clean, uncluttered look. In general I like the direction Microsoft has taken Office.

Looking at Windows 10 I must say I like Microsoft's Siri clone Cortana on the desktop, although I have to set my location to US to make it work, so not really practical in a business here yet. I run 10 in a WMWare virtual machine and it appears quicker than 8.1.
 

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Here are a few thoughts on my recent upgrade experience:

  • DO NOT click on a link in an E-mail offering the free upgrade. It is ransomware and is a very nasty virus and expensive to remove
  • Windows Automatic Update (which you should always have turned on) will notify you when the upgrade is ready for you to install.
  • For the first morning of the upgrade, Windows 10 was very unstable. Outlook 10 kept crashing every 15 minutes. After about four hours, it seemed like everyone began to play nice
  • If you had windows 8, you will love Windows 10. Tiles are back but very user friendly and the START button is back
  • Internet Explorer is now Edge and not all web sites are ready for it. You do have an option in Settings to open a web page using IE.
  • Windows Media Player is gone and if you want it back it is $15 but a stripped down version. There are better ones out there for free
  • YouTube videos won't play at first - you will get an error. After about two minutes (and having opened them using IE, they start to play).
  • Be sure to write down (if you haven't already) all your logins and passwords. all of your cookies will be gone. You will have to restore your Favorites and the Favorites Bar but it is not automatic
  • iTunes WILL NOT WORK - no surprise. Why would Apple play nice. There is not an ETA on an update. If you plug in an iPhone, ITunes will not launch (even version 12.2). Guess Apple does not want me to buy anything more from their store

Lots more to explore. They also offer an option to create a PIN instead of using your previous password. Also, WebEx, the conferencing tool does not work currently with Windows 10. Not sure about GotoMeeting or GotoWebinar. Many API's won't work until they are rewritten for Windows 10 so there may be more surprises down the road.

Unless you HAVE to upgrade or buy a new computer, it may be better to wait for Service Pack 1 so that the these bugs will be worked out.
 
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I gave up and went to the Microsoft Store in Sarasota yesterday. No one seemed to have any idea why all my documents were now read only. They tried multiple things, even reinstalled Office 2010. Nothing worked so they took MS10 out and went back to Windows 7. But guess what??? my docs are still all read only, which they were not before I loaded 10. So after an hour and a half, I agreed to leave the laptop there so they can analyze it. Funny that the system was working perfect until I loaded 10 and now no one seems to know how to get me back to that stage. .

This is a known problem. I found several references to it in the 'help desk' stuff I was looking through. Perhaps a fix will appear before you bail entirely. But whatever.

Turns out I came across a snag. My computer hangs up when downloading apps acquired from the App store, or as part of Windows. I reset, scanned, twiddled and diddled. The only thing I see to do is to un- and reinstall Windows 10 or revert to Windows 8.1. So I've put my stepson on it at the home office in Redmond. Time will tell what comes of it.
 

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This is a known problem. I found several references to it in the 'help desk' stuff I was looking through. Perhaps a fix will appear before you bail entirely. But whatever.

Turns out I came across a snag. My computer hangs up when downloading apps acquired from the App store, or as part of Windows. I reset, scanned, twiddled and diddled. The only thing I see to do is to un- and reinstall Windows 10 or revert to Windows 8.1. So I've put my stepson on it at the home office in Redmond. Time will tell what comes of it.

Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 8.1 now(today)?
 

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.... So I've put my stepson on it at the home office in Redmond. ....

Ha, Ha ... I had a sister who first worked at Triangle Research Park in NC; then went to work at Boca Raton, Fl for years; then got a new job, in a Houston, TX area (Harris County). Had NO interest in getting transfer to Palo Alto, Ca headquarters from outside of Houston. Took many business trips to Redmond, Wa.

And that is WHO I put onto my tech problems ... usually, those issues get solved with a NEW BOX being dropped shipped to my front door step. :hysterical:

And another sister, has a slightly different version on how to solve her computer issues ... same solution.:rofl:
 

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You'll still own a better computer than anyone with a Mac...

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Window 10 = No Way, No Pay! :crash:

After 33+ years of Microsoft, I'm switching back to Apple after the 1st of the year: I'm done with Microsoft :cheer:. I'm waiting for the new Intel Skylake chip to be incorporated into the iMac 5K/Retina :D. Then about 2 years later, I'll pick-up a MacBook Pro, right before I retire. :cheer: (Yippee to both)

For working with videos, pictures, and music (for my guitars), you can't beat Apple. ;)
 
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