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What would you recommend for a newbie for a ski week in Whistler?

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Hi all! We are currently staying in Whistler in an Airbnb I booked, and I’m thinking I wish I had booked better lodging but everything is so pricy. Being fairly good at the airline mile game, I wondered what forums there might be around timeshare systems and ended up here. I’m curious what you might recommend in Whistler. I’m not looking to rush into anything but just starting to do research.

Here are some questions you can answer to focus your timeshare wants/needs.

1) Is there a vacation destination you wish to visit most of the time or on a regular basis? if so where?
Whistler, BC for skiing. We live in Seattle and like coming up here to ski. As it’s fairly pricy I’m trying to control costs — we bring our own equipment, buy the Epic pass in advance, and drive up. Now trying to do something about lodging costs.

2) Do you want to visit your home resort at least half the time, or do you want to trade more than half the time?
Probably at least half the time but also interested in flexibility for other destinations.

3) What are your 5 top trade destinations?
Other ski resorts (Colorado, Utah, etc)
Hawaii
Europe
Disney World
California (Near SF or Tahoe)

4) How many people do you usually travel with - total, including yourself?
2 to 4 depending on the trip. I like the idea of a two bedroom.

5) Can you travel any time, or are you locked into the school schedule?
Any time, but for Whistler we would want between December and March inclusive.

6) Can you make firm plans 12 or more mos. in advance?
Probably? We don’t usually now but that’s more procrastination than restrictions due to work. More flexibility is always nice but I worry about missing out on ski weeks.

7) Can you vacation for a full week at a time?
Yes, but again if there is an option for more flexibility we might prefer 5 day trips or something.

8) What level of accommodations do you prefer on a scale of 1 to 5 stars?
We prefer 4-5.

9) How much can you afford to spend upfront, without financing?
Not sure? I think we could maybe afford $10k-ish? A bit flexible here if the value is actually there compared to one off rentals.

10) How much can you afford to spend every year for a maintenance fee that will come due right after Christmas, and increase each year?
Maybe $1k? Not really sure.

11) Are you a detail oriented planner?
I am detail oriented when I actually plan something, but like to procrastinate the actual planning.

12) Do you understand that once you buy a timeshare, it may be very difficult to sell or give away, and you are responsible for all fees, until you do?
Yes, very aware of this, which is why I’m asking here for advice first!

My parents have been DVC members for a long time and often used RCI to book lodging at Keystone, CO. They bought new from Disney and have always enjoyed it, although as an adult I think I would want to buy resale. Anyways, I’m looking for advice on what you would do for a week or so in Whistler annually for best value, I’m not too sure about other specifics at the moment.


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Worldmark has two resorts at Whistler which are the Worldmark Sundance and the Worldmark Cascade Lodge. With Worldmark you have access to many properties.

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Worldmark has two resorts at Whistler which are the Worldmark Sundance and the Worldmark Cascade Lodge. With Worldmark you have access to many properties.

Bill

Thank you for the suggestion. Just to see if I have the hang of this, it looks like a week in a 2br during red season at WM Sundance would cost approximately 10,000 credits. It looks to me like maintenance fees for that would be about $951. Do you know how hard it would be for me to actually get the dates I wanted though, if the week isn’t fixed? Also, what is a good site to look for WM resales?

Still open to other ideas, just trying to wrap my head around different programs!


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As a WorldMark Owner you could get WM Cascade Lodge for about $800/week for a 1 bedroom, or Worldmark Sundance for $800/week (1 bedroom) or $1000/week for 2 bedroom.
 

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As a WorldMark Owner you could get WM Cascade Lodge for about $800/week for a 1 bedroom, or Worldmark Sundance for $800/week (1 bedroom) or $1000/week for 2 bedroom.

Thanks! Could you clarify if the numbers quoted are maintenance fees or some other program under WorldMark?

Also how important would it be that my Worldmark points be based in Whistler? Or could I become an owner at any of their resorts?


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I really like Embarc Whistler. https://embarcresorts.com/embarc-whistler.html
Used to be part of Intrawest resorts and is now in the Diamond fold. It has a great location at the Blackcomb base area just a short walk outside the craziness of the central village. Can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how much nightlife you want. ;)

I also like Whiski Jack resorts. There is a bunch of them, though they're not 4-5 star resorts. But they get the job done. They also have a Bonus Time program, which might be appealing to you, since you're so close by.
 

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Thanks! Could you clarify if the numbers quoted are maintenance fees or some other program under WorldMark?

Also how important would it be that my Worldmark points be based in Whistler? Or could I become an owner at any of their resorts?
The numbers quoted are for the maintenance fees for an ownership size you would need to reserve what you want at Whistler.

In WorldMark, there is no "home resort" you would own credits that are good at any resort beginning at 13 months before arrival (very important if you are interested in Whistler in ski season).
 

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From 2000 to about 2015, we skied Whistler regularly. Initially we did exchanges. We got interested in doing exchanges, and at one point bought a Whiski Jack fixed week at Fitzsimmons in the Village. We also bought a membership in Raintree for access to Whistler.

Note that we live in the Seattle area, so for us Whistler is a drive-to destination.

After about five years of doing Whistler via exchanges, we decided that timesharing wasn't the best way to do Whistler for us. First, we found that spending three days on the slopes was close to our max. So a 7-day reservation or exchange wasn't optimal. Given that, we found that we could often find suitable accommodations using alluradirect.com that fit our needs better, and that were often equal to, or less than the prices we paid for timeshare ownership.

So we bagged the idea of trading in, and decided that for us three- or four-day rentals worked much better for us than exchanging. So we sold our Fitzsimmons. We've used Raintree once for Whistler accommodations, when I had a professional conference that happened to be in Whistler.

So my suggestion would be to continue to explore the rental market and investigate timeshare options until such time as you know that the timeshare market is the way you want to go and what timeshare option will work the best for you.

One more thought - during ski season all of the Whiski Jack inventory was sold as fixed week, fixed unit. There are both advantages for that. That being said, if you are interested in skiing and can lock in to a specific time of year, it's pretty damn hard to beat owning a fixed a week unit at Whiski Jack Powders Edge to matches your schedule. We did a direct owner-to-owner swap in there for New Years 2000, and it was one of the primo timeshare weeks we've spent in our lives (apart from the border crossing on our return, but that's a separate story).
 

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To the OP?
Are you only planning to use your timeshare week for sking only?
That is the question.
 

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I really like Embarc Whistler. https://embarcresorts.com/embarc-whistler.html
Used to be part of Intrawest resorts and is now in the Diamond fold. It has a great location at the Blackcomb base area just a short walk outside the craziness of the central village. Can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how much nightlife you want. ;)

I also like Whiski Jack resorts. There is a bunch of them, though they're not 4-5 star resorts. But they get the job done. They also have a Bonus Time program, which might be appealing to you, since you're so close by.


We also like this resort. Now part of Hilton Grand Vacations family. Wait to buy in 2022 and see how this integration rolls out. You might also be able to trade into this resort for less MF $.
 

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I live in Whistler and just warning you that demand is very high. Also I own Raintree - someone mentioned it above - and will be selling it cheap in April so hmu if interested.
 

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Although booking a prime ski week would be difficult in Whistler likely with any points system or floating week, if you use WM's waitlist system I am sure you could get a few days during prime time. Since Cascade lodge only has one bedroom units and Sundance is quite small booking anything larger than a one bedroom will be difficult. I've heard that the embarc units are really nice but they cost a lot more in maintenance fees than WM does. As a Canadian I really want to own embarc but they have a lot less resorts than WM does and the fees are considerably higher.

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To the OP?
Are you only planning to use your timeshare week for sking only?
That is the question.

Yes, in Whistler it would only be for skiing. I haven't considered other places yet. I would probably book other travel with cash at the moment, but I could change my mind once I learn more about the systems and exchanging weeks/points. That's why I won't rush into it until I really understand how much flexibility there is.


We also like this resort. Now part of Hilton Grand Vacations family. Wait to buy in 2022 and see how this integration rolls out. You might also be able to trade into this resort for less MF $.

It seems like there is a lot of people who like Embarc. Will they likely do away with their own points and only have HGVC or will both systems stay in place? I will have to compare as they are integrated to see what the best option is.
 

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I live in Whistler and just warning you that demand is very high. Also I own Raintree - someone mentioned it above - and will be selling it cheap in April so hmu if interested.
Jumping back in on this thread. I added my $0.02 before, so now you're might be getting a nickel's worth, or maybe a dime. I might be overlooking something, because I haven't plugged into Whistler that closely since we decided to direct rentals. But here goes.

Below summarizes the timeshare options I know of in Whistler, with some of my thoughts about each.

  • Embarc. Used to be Club Intrawest. Now operated by HGVC and will be rebranded. Probably the upper end of timeshare accommodations, along with Raintree/Whiski Jack Westin.
Nice location in the Upper Village, just a couple of buildings away from the Blackcomb Gondola, which accesses on Blackcomb Mountain. IF you want to ski Whistler Mountain, then you will either want to take the local Whistler Village bus to Whistler Village, where the bus will drop you right next to Gondola Plaza. Or take gondolas/lifts to the top of Blackcomb Mountain, then use the Peak-to-Peak gondola to cross over to Whistler Mountain.​
Being in the Upper Village, the location is quieter than locales in the heart of Whistler Village. More distant from the all of the activity of Whistler Village. That's good or bad, depending on your perspective.​
Points program. All floating weeks.​
  • Mountainside Lodge. Part of Shell Vacation Club, or whatever Shell may have morphed into.
In Whistler Village, just a couple of buildings away from Whistler Gondola Plaza, which accesses both mountains. Close to, but not abutting Village Stroll, which the main activity corridor in Whistler Village, so ML is close to the activity, but not quite as noisy as properties that front on Village Stroll. Refer to discussion about Village Stroll in the Raintree/Whiski Jack discussion.​
Points program. All floating weeks.​
  • Vacation Internationale. VI owns some units (studios and one-bedroom units, IIRC) in the Clocktower Lodge, on Village Stroll with only one building (Careleton Lodge) between Clocktower and the Whistler Gondola Plaza. This end of Village Stroll doesn't have nightclubs and lounges, but there is still some nighttime noise from street carousers.
VI is a Points program. All floating weeks.​
Added detail/trivia: For a period of time, the resort manager for VI was a timeshare company called Sunterra, which was acquired by Diamond as Sunterra was in a death spiral. But, while Sunterra was resort manager, they were running an on-site sales program, in which VI owners would add their VI membership to Sunterra's timeshare club program. When VI booted out Sunterra, that inventory stayed with Sunterra, and became part of Diamond after Diamond acquired Sunterra. The amount of Diamond inventory at Clocktower isn't large, but one time I booked three nights in a Clocktower studio using my Diamond points.​
  • Worldmark/Wyndham Whistler. Two properties. One at Cascade Lodge in Whistler, about 1/4 mile schlep to Whistler Gondola Plaza. One at Sundance in Creekside Village. also about 1/4 mile to the Creekside Gondola.
Note that Creekside Gondola only services Whistler Mountain, so if you want to ski Blackcomb you either need to take a bus to Whistler Village, or continue to the top of Whistler mountain and take the Peak-to-Peak gondola across mountains. Or, you can ski or gondola down to Whistler Village from Whistler mid-mountain and board the Blackcomb Gondola there.​
I don't know much about these properties. My timeshare activity and interest at Whistler occurred before Wyndham/Worldmark had much presence there and before Creekside was redeveloped. Whiski Jack also owns some units in Cascade Lodge.​

  • Whiski Jack/Raintree. These are two separate systems, but they have to be talked about together because they were united for a long time, and are still somewhat intertwined. This system gives the maximum flexibility for tailoring ownership options.
This is a mixture of both points and floating weeks. Anything that is Raintree is points-based floating. Properties that are not Raintree are fixed week, fixed unit in prime season; floating week in mud season.​
Whiski Jack has inventory in many parts of Whistler, ranging from the Main Village, to the larger Whistler Villlage, and even in Blueberry Hill outside the Village. Most of the buildings are larger condo projects, in which Whiski Jack bought a certain number of condos for their program.​
Whiski Jack operated as an independent entity for a number of years before Raintree bought the management company and took over resort operations. Most of the Whiski Jack properties were sold as fixed week, fixed unit during peak season (ski season and summer) and as floating week during mud seasons. I never investigated mud season to know if mud weeks float only for a specific property, or if the usage right includes other properties. That ownership structure is still generally intact for the original properties.​
When Raintree came in, they had a sales program in which they were pitching existing WJ owners to move their ownership in Raintree's Vacation Club. In addition, any sales they did to new owners were as Raintree Club memberships. So Whiski Jack inventory includes a mix of stand-alone ownership and Raintree ownership. That program ended when the Whiski Jack owners associations terminated Raintree's management contract. I think the Whiski Jack name might have transferred to Raintree, so those original ownerships that didn't become part of Raintree Club might no longer carry the WJ moniker.​
While Raintree was operating as the developer, inventory was being added to the system, and Raintree sold that inventory as Raintree Club membership. I believe the Whiski Jack at the Westin, right next to the Whistler Gondola plaza, was sold exclusively as Raintree membership.​
The earliest Whiski Jack properties were located in the heart of Whistler Village, along Village Stroll. The older units, such as Town Plaza and Fitzsimmons, have restaurants and nightclubs on the first floor, and can have a lot of street noise at night. The units however, are much more spacious than newer properties. And they are conveniently located if you enjoy the night activities.​
But there are so many WJ properties that you can tailor something to your interests. How close to the Village do you want to be? Do you want ski-in or ski-out? (AFAIK, WJ has the only true ski-in/out timeshare properties in Whistler). Do you want fixed week, fixed unit or floating? Note that if you are looking to buy a WJ fixed usage, you may have to spend some time hunting to finally match up with an owner who is trying to sell. Also, most of these fixed units actually do have resale value.​
This post came out longer than I intended. Probably more detail than you need or are interested in.

With all of that being said, I think the Powders Edge property is primo if you want to ski and can lock in on a fixed week. You literally walk out the door and you are at Whistler Gondola Plaza - pretty much ski-in, ski out. The units are spacious. Two bedroom units over two stories, with a bedroom loft. Eight people can easily occupy the space, without being cramped. The units have en suite sauna and en suite Jacuzzi/hot tub. Come off the mountain at the end of the day. Walk 100 feet to the door to the property, take off your gear and change when you reach the room, grab a beverage and soak in the Jacuzzi overlooking Gondola Plaza. The property is very small - six units total.

Needless to say, finding these units in ski season can be challenging, and may take time.
 
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Jumping back in on this thread. I added my $0.02 before, so now you're might be getting a nickel's worth, or maybe a dime. I might be overlooking something, because I haven't plugged into Whistler that closely since we decided to direct rentals. But here goes.

Below summarizes the timeshare options I know of in Whistler, with some of my thoughts about each.

  • Embarc. Used to be Club Intrawest. Now operated by HGVC and will be rebranded. Probably the upper end of timeshare accommodations, along with Raintree/Whiski Jack Westin.
Nice location in the Upper Village, just a couple of buildings away from the Blackcomb Gondola, which accesses on Blackcomb Mountain. More distant from the all of the activity of Whistler Village. That's good or bad, depending on your perspective.​
Points program. All floating weeks.​
  • Mountainside Lodge. Part of Shell Vacation Club, or whatever Shell may have morphed into.
In Whisler Village, just a couple of buildings away from Whistler Gondola Plaza, which accesses both mountains. Close to, but not abutting Village Stroll, which the main activity corridor in Whistler Village, so ML is close to the activity, but not quite as noisy as properties that front on Village Stroll. Refer to discussion about Village Stroll in the Raintree/Whiski Jack discussion.​
Points program. All floating weeks.​
  • Vacation Internationale. VI owns some units (studios and one-bedroom units, IIRC) in the Clocktower Lodge, on Village Stroll with only one building (Careleton Lodge) between Clocktower and the Whistler Gondola Plaza. This end of Village Stroll doesn't have nightclubs and lounges, but there is still some nighttime noise from street carousers.
VI is a Points program. All floating weeks.​
Added detail/trivia: For a period of time, the resort manager for VI was a timeshare company called Sunterra, which was acquired by Diamond as Sunterra was in a death spiral. But, while Sunterra was resort manager, they were running an on-site sales program, in which VI owners would add their VI membership to Sunterra's timeshare club program. When VI booted out Sunterra, that inventory stayed with Sunterra, and became part of Diamond after Diamond acquired Sunterra. The amount of Diamond inventory at Clocktower isn't large, but one time I booked three nights in a Clocktower studio using my Diamond points.​
  • Worldmark/Wyndham Whistler. Two properties. One at Cascade Lodge in Whistler, about 1/4 mile schlep to Whistler Gondola Plaza. One at Sundance in Creekside Village. also about 1/4 mile to the Creekside Gondola.
Note that Creekside Gondola only services Whistler Mountain, so if you want to ski Blackcomb you either need to take bus to Whistler Village, or continue to the top of Whistler mountain and take the Peak-to-Peak gondola across mountains. Or, you can ski or gondola down to Whistler Village from Whistler mid-mountain and board the Blackcomb Gondola there.​
I don't know much about these properties. My timeshare activity and interest at Whistler occurred before Wyndham/Worldmark had much presence there and before Creekside was redeveloped. Whiski Jack also owns some units in Cascade Lodge.​

  • Whiski Jack/Raintree. These are two separate systems, but they have to be talked about together because they were united for a long time, and are intertwined. This system gives the maximum flexibility for tailoring ownership options.
This is a mixture of both points and floating weeks. Anything that is Raintree is points-based floating. Properties that are not Raintree are fixed week, fixed unit in prime season; floating week in mud season.​
Whiski Jack has inventory in many parts of Whistler, ranging from the Main Village, to the larger Whistler Villlage, and even in Blueberry Hill outside the Village. Most of the buildings are larger condo projects, in which Whiski Jack bought a certain number of condos for their program.​
Whiski Jack operated as an independent entity for a number of years before Raintree bought the management company and took over resort operations. Most of the Whiski Jack properties were sold as fixed week, fixed unit during peak season (ski season and summer) and as floating week during mud seasons. I never investigated mud season to know if mud weeks float only for a specific property, or if the usage right includes other properties. That ownership structure is still generally intact for the original properties.​
When Raintree came in, they had a sales program in which they were pitching existing WJ owners to move their ownership in Raintree's Vacation Club. In addition, any sales they did to new owners were as Raintree Club memberships. So Whiski Jack ownership includes a mix of stand-alone ownership and Raintree ownership. That program ended when the Whiski Jack owners associations terminated Raintree's management contract. I think the Whiski Jack name might have transferred to Raintree, so those original ownerships that didn't become part of Raintree Club might no longer carry the WJ moniker.​
While Raintree was operating as the developer, inventory was being added to the system, and Raintree sold that inventory as Raintree Club membership. I believe the Whiski Jack at the Westin, right next to the Whistler Gondola plaza, was sold exclusively as Raintree membership.​
The earliest Whiski Jack properties were located in the heart of Whistler Village, along Village Stroll. Those older units, such as Town Plaza and Fitzsimmons, have restaurants and nightclubs on the first floor, and can have a lot of street noise at night. The units however, are much more spacious than newer properties. And they are conveniently located if you enjoy the night activities.​
But there are so many WJ properties that you can tailor something to your interests. How close to the Village do you want to be? Do you want ski-in or ski-out? (AFAIK, WJ has the only true ski-in/out timeshare properties in Whistler). Do you want fixed week, fixed unit or floating? Note that if you are looking to buy a WJ fixed usage, you may have to spend some time hunting to finally match up with an owner who is trying to sell. Also, most of these fixed units actually do have resale value.​
This post came out longer than I intended. Probably more detail than you need or are interested in.

With all of that being said, I think the Powders Edge property is primo if you want to ski and can lock in on a fixed week. You literally walk out the door and you are at Whistler Gondola Plaza - pretty much ski-in, ski out. The units are spacious. Two bedroom units over two stories, with a bedroom loft. Eight people can easily occupy the space, without being cramped. The units have en suite sauna and en suite Jacuzzi/hot tub. Come off the mountain at the end of the day. Walk 100 feet to the door to the property, take off your gear and change when you reach the room, grab a beverage and soak in the Jacuzzi overlooking Gondola Plaza.

Needless to say, finding these units in ski season can be challenging, and may take time.
And fyi, the VI property Clocktower is available to Diamond Resorts members. I booked it for 2 weeks in March 2020 using Diamond points. Diamond of course has hundreds of these contacts with other ts companies which is what makes them so great.
 

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And fyi, the VI property Clocktower is available to Diamond Resorts members. I booked it for 2 weeks in March 2020 using Diamond points. Diamond of course has hundreds of these contacts with other ts companies which is what makes them so great.
That's good!!! I've never seen Clocktower available for more than three days. And never Jan, or early March. When I used to look for it regularly it started appearing mid-March. We've also used our Diamond points to stay at VI properties in Hawaii.

Unlike most of the inventory swaps that Diamond has with other companies, the VI properties are priced comparably to straight Diamond inventory. Other resort systems have significant markup. A good example is with Raintree. I own in both so I can directly compare. If want to stay in a Club Suite (1-bedroom) at Raintree Club Regina Puerto Vallarta during winter, that is 50,000 Raintree points, which costs me about $1000. The same reservation is 8000 Diamond point, which costs me about $1700 (Hawaii Collection).
 

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  • Embarc. Used to be Club Intrawest. Now operated by HGVC and will be rebranded. Probably the upper end of timeshare accommodations, along with Raintree/Whiski Jack Westin.

Thank you for your very thorough post. Embarc seems to be recommended by many. I realize they are owned by DRI (and now HGVC). But I also see Embarc points for resale as well.Does anyone have any idea what the future of these programs will look like? Will you likely be able to book with HGVC, DRI, and Embarc points? I like the seeming flexibility of the HGVC points program but would want to wait and ensure I could book with those before seeking a contract.

Or perhaps Embarc points are always a safe bet for being able to book there? I haven’t learned much about that system at all yet.
 

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Thank you for your very thorough post. Embarc seems to be recommended by many. I realize they are owned by DRI (and now HGVC). But I also see Embarc points for resale as well.Does anyone have any idea what the future of these programs will look like? Will you likely be able to book with HGVC, DRI, and Embarc points? I like the seeming flexibility of the HGVC points program but would want to wait and ensure I could book with those before seeking a contract.

Or perhaps Embarc points are always a safe bet for being able to book there? I haven’t learned much about that system at all yet.
You're welcome!!! My main suggestion would be to take your time, and do a couple of rentals before deciding. Renting can give you and opportunity to check things out entering the continuing annual fees obligation.

For myself, in my skiing days, I wasn't looking for the lap of luxury. I wanted convenience to the slopes, ability to soak in a hot tub after a day of skiing, a decent bed and kitchen, and reasonable quiet after beditme. Never stayed at Embarc, but I did stay at the Raintree Westin in 2010. Nice facility, but it had a lot amenities that were of no interest to me.

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By the way, if I were to see whackedspinach, would that be at all like visualizing whirled peas? :D
 

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You're welcome!!! My main suggestion would be to take your time, and do a couple of rentals before deciding. Renting can give you and opportunity to check things out entering the continuing annual fees obligation.

For myself, in my skiing days, I wasn't looking for the lap of luxury. I wanted convenience to the slopes, ability to soak in a hot tub after a day of skiing, a decent bed and kitchen, and reasonable quiet after beditme. Never stayed at Embarc, but I did stay at the Raintree Westin in 2010. Nice facility, but it had a lot amenities that were of no interest to me.

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By the way, if I were to see whackedspinach, would that be at all like visualizing whirled peas? :D
Your posts were wonderful and very enlightening.
 

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I wanted to revive this post and thank you all for helping me with my first foray into becoming a timeshare owner, and to recount a bit of what I have learned in the past 3 years.

I ended up, over ~6 months after making this original post, acquiring a Grandview Las Vegas unit for RCI trading, a WorldMark contract, and a Raintree contract. I've managed to make 5 trips to the following 4 locations (if I am counting correctly):

RCI - Whistler Vacation Club at Twin Peaks (2br)
Raintree at Westin (x2) (1br and a 2br lockoff)
Raintree at Aspens (2br)
WorldMark Cascade (1br)

and I have two trips at WorldMark Sundance and RCI - Cascade planned in a few months.

I may have caught a bug picking up so many contracts, but it's been fun to compare them and try them out. I even managed to get an additional RCI trip to Hawaii (Kings Land) and several other WorldMark destinations.

Here's my thoughts on the different systems:
- In general I've found RCI very frustrating to use, and I think I may prefer picking up a timeshare that is either fixed week or a point system that is somehow easier than trying to snag a trade in RCI or II. Of course this is likely because I'm looking to trade into Whistler, and frankly I've been lucky to grab at least two good ski weeks in RCI.
- I absolutely love WorldMark, as I find it very flexible to book partial week stays, the Monday Madness / Inventory Specials / Bonus Weeks are amazing to get lots of stays on just a small contract, and their waitlist feature is decent enough. I booked WM Sundance for ~$625 USD cash in a 2 bedroom for 4 nights during President's Day Week -- seems like a great deal to me! I wish Cascade Lodge was closer to the lifts and that it had 2 bedrooms. I am interested to see if I like Sundance, although I know I'm not going to be a fan of Creekside.
- Raintree is a real mixed bag. On the one hand, my favorite Whistler stays have been at the Westin and Aspens. Absolutely amazing locations and nice facilities. On the other hand, Raintree's website is horrid -- there is no waitlist, you have to search each resort one-by-one, and you have to enter exact dates (no calendar view). With the bad interface and high MFs, I am not sure I will be keeping Raintree long term, but will likely keep it until I find something better.

Based on the places I've stayed, I think long term I am looking for ~2 weeks of timeshare usage per year in something nice and central (Whistler Village near lifts, or maybe Blackcomb Base if ski-in/ski-out). I'm also planning to travel with more family in the future, so 2 bedrooms would be amazing if I can snag it. I really enjoyed Westin and Aspens, and I have HGVC Whistler (AKA Embarc) and Powders Edge on my wishlist to try. If I like staying at Embarc (after trading/renting) then I may look into buying points there.

Does anyone know if fixed-week contracts for Whiski Jack Westin exist in ski season? That would be amazing, as would Powders Edge if I see one that fits our needs.
 

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I am surprised how easy (relatively speaking) it is to reserve a post-holiday ski vacation in Whistler through WorldMark for next year.

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Yes, as long as you have the points and are willing to book a full week! I'm surprised at how asy it is to snag something on waitlist if you are flexible about dates.
 

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Great follow-up post. I stayed at Twin Peaks in RCI for two ski weeks in 2022 via RCI and am back again for first week of March 2024
 

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I am surprised how easy (relatively speaking) it is to reserve a post-holiday ski vacation in Whistler through WorldMark for next year.

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The first two weeks of January are a "dead season" at Whistler. That's a time to get some great value via exchanges or rentals.
 

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Just grabbed a week at WorldMark Cascade for mid-January next year. Meanwhile I'm turning up zilch with RCI and the extremely limited Raintree options are very expensive in my opinion (50k points which is ~$1,950 USD in MFs for 1BDR Lake Placid in Creekside). Better than hotels still, but I'd rather find something in Main Village or Upper Village with that price.
 
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