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What is my timeshare worth? Mayan Palace Resorts

edwardb298

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Hi I am not sure what was purchased. It has never been used. It came with Holiday Systems International membership also.

Mayan Palace Resorts Vacation Weeks Program
  • Unit = Master Room Mayan Palace Regency
  • Time Classification = Red
  • Number of Weeks in this Unit Type = 2
  • Reservation/maintenance fee = $439 per week on contract from 2010. Seems to be $465 or more now? Have been getting $400 or so back each time since have not been using the timeshare.
  • Contract states a Certificate Holder transfer fee of five Reservation fees = $2400? This seems ridiculous
  • Contract states you can stay at any of the Sister Resorts: Acapulco, Nuevo Vallarta, Riviera Maya, Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Puerto Penasco

Is this something that is sellable/transferable to anyone -- or can I just terminate the contract with the company? Thanks in advance for any assistance
 
Because of those renewal and transfer fees, MPs have no value. Don't feel bad, that's common in Mexico. They are nice resorts, but their value is in their use. It's unlikely that you can unilaterally just cancel the contract. You may be able to negotiate an exit strategy with their owner services, but know that they would rather have your money than you have your way out.

The unfortunate reality is that your contract will remain valid until you sell it or negotiate an exit.

Jim
 
Master room is a hotel room / no kitchen

The best value is in use
or you can pay MF and deposit into RCI for TPU's

I am unclear what you mean when you say -" $ 400 back by not using "
who is refunding?

The transfer fee is correct . The developer ( Mayan / Vida / Vidanta ) does not wish to compete with their own product on ebay so they have very high transfer cost.
They do allow some inter -family transfers that do not incur this cost.

Red season is 48 weeks ( does not include the 4 Mexican holiday weeks of Christmas , New Years and the floating weeks on either side of Easter Sunday)

You cannot " just terminate" . It is a RTU with renewal dates .
It is likely 25 years from purchase in 2010 , but newer contracts ( 2011+) are 10 years.
You can contact their Member Services dept in Neuvo Vallarta Mexico and find out if they will let you give it back . They may do so since it allows them to resell a week for more money
and the 25 year contracts have more use years that they may wish to eliminate .

If you wish to use - The contract is likely to allow an ARP - advanced reservation period( priority) of 6 months and allow this into the following calendar year
So call in August to book Presidents week in Feb 2017 . This would be for the residence (or similar term) week . The second bonus or Vacation Fare week generally is only bookable 45 days out and the MF is payable only if used.
It is a good benefit for use between mid April and early Dec . It generally cannot be used for the peak snowbird time from Jan - April .

You can book at any of the resort locations you list for the MF cost

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Hi I am not sure what was purchased. It has never been used. It came with Holiday Systems International membership also.

Mayan Palace Resorts Vacation Weeks Program
  • Unit = Master Room Mayan Palace Regency
  • Time Classification = Red
  • Number of Weeks in this Unit Type = 2
  • Reservation/maintenance fee = $439 per week on contract from 2010. Seems to be $465 or more now? Have been getting $400 or so back each time since have not been using the timeshare.
  • Contract states a Certificate Holder transfer fee of five Reservation fees = $2400? This seems ridiculous
  • Contract states you can stay at any of the Sister Resorts: Acapulco, Nuevo Vallarta, Riviera Maya, Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Puerto Penasco

Is this something that is sellable/transferable to anyone -- or can I just terminate the contract with the company? Thanks in advance for any assistance

We have been Mayan World owners since 1999. We have had many wonderful family vacations at the various resorts. You can use at any of the resorts listed above because they have Mayan Palace units. We have been to all of the resorts and each is unique and we have enjoyed our stays at all. The Master Room is basically a regular hotel room with 2 beds and a bathroom. No coffeemaker, mini-fridge, or microwave. The balcony (if you can call it one) is about 27" wide and 14 feet long. There are no chairs on it, but the two small chairs in the unit will barely fit.

They started the 5 MF for transfer back in 2006 so that people would not be able to sell/buy resale. The MF generally go up 5% each year (per contract). (It is 10 MF for newer contracts.) This is why it is not worth trying to sell - you will lose whatever you paid up front and have to find someone willing to pay the transfer fees. Many people pay the transfer fees just go get rid of them.

The Vacation Fair Bonus week generally does not transfer for contracts dated after 2006, so if you did find someone who wanted a Hotel Room for $2400, they would get just one week.

Therefore, this has no real resale value. I would try the advice that T-Dot-Traveller gave you and contact Customer Service. You never know - they might take it back. If you are not using it, they are not getting MF, so they might take it back and sell to someone who will pay them and come to the resorts and eventually upgrade to a larger unit.

Good luck.
 
Thank you for your assistance everyone. It appears it is a 10 year contract.

T-Dot-Traveller - I believe Holiday Systems is refunding the $400 or so each year that we pay in fees. Thank you for the explanation on the weeks; so it offers 2 weeks each year--one can be booked well in advance, the other for less desired times. That helps.

pittle - Okay yes I would not pay transfer fee to get rid of...it is only costing $60 or so a year not using it.
 
Thank you for your assistance everyone. It appears it is a 10 year contract.

T-Dot-Traveller - I believe Holiday Systems is refunding the $400 or so each year that we pay in fees. Thank you for the explanation on the weeks; so it offers 2 weeks each year--one can be booked well in advance, the other for less desired times. That helps.

pittle - Okay yes I would not pay transfer fee to get rid of...it is only costing $60 or so a year not using it.

Hi Edwardb298 ,
Vidanta / Vida / Mayan - has over the years sold many different contract variations . The Holiday Systems " refund " if they take your week is one I have not heard of - but around 2010 HSI and Vidanta were doing lots of bonus " breakaway weeks " etc .- so the time frame and concept make sense . It is a "deposit to HSI - no go /partial refund ".
if you were buying today It would likely be SFX - Vida weeks .

Your 10 year renewal due in 4 years is likely $ 1000 or so . If you do not pay I am pretty sure the contract ends .
You can contact member services and they will email you a PDF of the contract
if you think you wish to understand it better .

By the way - some of Vidanta's recent contracts (The Collections)!charge. $ 585 for the MF of a master suite/ hotel room since they can " reset " when selling a new product .That product does not have an ARP but seems to have " no go / no pay " ie MF on use only .
So -your contract is likely " better " than one of their current starter TS programs , even though your contract has no resale value ,only use value or exchange value

My guess - if your 2016 MF cost is under $ 500 - is that your contract has the same sort of cap to annual increases that mine has . We have USA CPI plus a 5%!max . for Mexican inflation .
Over the last 10 years both indexes have been low - so the MF has increased an avg of $ 20 per year.

The concept of one week with 6 month ARP and a second " bonus " week is generally how older, Mayan contracts work . However I would clarify with them - to be sure . Member Services and Reservation and the resorts are high quality and professional . FYI.- Their TS sales force is very focused and would want to " upgrade" you - so ....contact Member Services .

I assume this cost 5K - 10K or more when originally bought . If it was me - I would attempt to use it at least once before letting it expire or giving back .

FYI - for the first 3 years we owned - I paid MF &'deposited into RCI and then let the TPU's expire without use - because I was " too busy " to take vacation .

in year 4 we booked Mazatlan Sea Garden a month before travel because that was what had availability.- and paying for something we were not using seemed increasingly stupid on my part .
Today we have 32 weeks left ( based on 2 per year )! and we plan to use all of them .( it has no go / no pay) which started at year 5 as per our original contract so if life changes ,we owe only 2 reno fees in the next 15 years .
It took me a while to figure all this out

If you wish to have a larger size suite you can deposit into RCI and then book in through RCI and pay the exchange fee . There are TUG members / Mayan owners - who do this every year .
I will try to look up how many TPU,s a studio gets . RCI was closed on the weekend to upgrade their computer system .

According to the RCI website "deposit calculator " your 2017 year/ MF could get 13 TPU if deposited now ( June 2016) for a master suite/ no kitchen
I based it as a Neuvo Vallarta unit . This works out to $35-40 per TPU .You also have to pay the RCI annual fee and the exchange fee and if you wish to combine deposits
ie 2 years deposits to get 26 + TPU there is a fee .

** note :see following info / next post- from rpennisi who received better TPU than the calculator . That can definitely happen .
The online calculator is an estimate , The may give more and perhaps purposely set the calculator on the low end so people are pleased using RCI.

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For 2016, I split a 2 bedroom suite and deposited them into RCI and got 22 TPU for the one bedroom suite and 18 TPU for the master room.
Hope that helps.
18 TPU will get you many one and two bedroom suites in trade for the extra $219 trading fee with RCI.
You will also get better suite levels with Mayan World and Pueblo Bonito resorts.
 
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I am glad that someone is getting good results from HSI - we never did. We have had it from several timeshares that we purchased over the years and it was awful. So, if I understand it, you pay your MF to Mayan, deposit and get a refund of $400 from HSI. Why not just not pay and keep your $60?

With the 10 year renewal, if you do not pay the price, you no longer use it. So, your problem will be solved in a few years. :)
 
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