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Westin St John Master Thread - Part 3 [Dec. 2017 and forward]

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Anyone on St. John now? Or went recently and would know this answer?

Is there is access to Caneel Bay property/beaches - does anyone know if one can walk around their property?

If so, is there parking on the road and you walk in?

No and No.

If you are trying to get to Honeymoon beach - you can walk from Lind Point, or take the dingy shuttle from Cruz Bay ($5pp) in front of High Tide.

Caneel is closed - and will be for a while.


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Vistana claims I did not call to bank my 2018 WSJ to Star Options with extended usage period, and that they just converted them to Interval International. This is clearly wrong as I recall calling it in when Vistana extended that offer last year. Anyone else have this experience or have advice for me? I have never used Interval, but more importantly, that has a 2020 usage deadline, not 2021 as with the Star Options. TIA.
 

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Vistana claims I did not call to bank my 2018 WSJ to Star Options with extended usage period, and that they just converted them to Interval International. This is clearly wrong as I recall calling it in when Vistana extended that offer last year. Anyone else have this experience or have advice for me? I have never used Interval, but more importantly, that has a 2020 usage deadline, not 2021 as with the Star Options. TIA.

When you bank StarOptions, you receive an email confirming the transaction. Did you receive such email?

Additionally, you would be able to immediately see the banked StarOptions on your Vistana Dashboard. Did they ever appear?
 
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The star options did show up on my dashboard and the rep said if I banked then they would not have appeared. I don’t understand that. Will look for email.
 

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The star options did show up on my dashboard and the rep said if I banked then they would not have appeared. I don’t understand that. Will look for email.

The banked StarOptions would be shown on the bottom line of the reconciliation of the StarOptions shown at the top of the Dashboard page. Click on the StarOptions at the top of the Dashboard page and the reconciliation pops up for the current year and three years forward.
 

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My first post as a new TUG user! As a WSJ owner who normally uses my annual week, I have a lot to learn about renting my unit. I have had good success with STJOHNCONDOS.COM in the past, but less so in 2016 and 2017. I have a classified ad in the TUG2 board for my week 17 this year; no interest yet.

Does anyone have other ideas to advertise? Is AirBNB an option (or are WSJ rentals being hurt by other AirBNB competition?)

Open to advice and ideas from the experienced TUG community!

>JP
 

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You can go to some of the Caneel Bay beaches even without Caneel Bay property access. There is one that is easy to access but I can’t remember the name. Maybe someone else knows.
 

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I am interested in reading reports from anyone who has visited WSJ since it opened. We decided to cancel our WSJ exchange into WSJ and sail the BVIs for a week, followed by a stay at Ritz Carlton Residence Club in St Thomas. I hope to take the ferry over to St John and see WSJ. I have been on the fence about purchasing there. I have an owner who is interested in selling me a week 50 in a 3 BR pool villa at a fair price as well as giving me week 50 in 2019 wo reimbursement. But I am not sure if I will love it there since I will compare it to our stay at Caneel Bay a few years ago. Even though we stayed in a hotel room in Caneel Bay, it was ocean view and about 100 ft from the beach. That trip was one of the favorites of my life. I fell in love with St John but I think it was the location on St John and the 7 beaches that I fell in love with.
 

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You can go to some of the Caneel Bay beaches even without Caneel Bay property access. There is one that is easy to access but I can’t remember the name. Maybe someone else knows.

All beaches are accessible from the water - including Caneel beaches. You can get to Honeymoon and Salomon beaches via Lind Trail (not Caneel). Otherwise - there is no walkable beaches thru Caneel as Caneel is closed. You can do it, but it would be considered Trespassing.

You can swim/walk from Little Hawksnest to the beach that is on backside of Caneel.


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Thanks for the heads up on taking a dingy from Cruz Bay to Honeymoon Beach. We are looking forward to our week 16 on St. John this year, especially after missing out last year. The only downside this year is not staying in our villa.

I feel blessed that we were able to start a family tradition back in 2003, when we bought Unit 4111 week 16. We watched the grand kids grow up using our three bedroom pool villa as their home away from home. Everyone loved our villa so much that taking the kids out of school to join us was worth all the homework they did while we were away. It really hits a place in my heart when the kids start talking about St. John and Unit 4111, like it's a beloved member of our family.

Three of the four grandkids will be in college next year making our annual week 16 family vacation a thing of the past, at least for four years. Sure, we will plan other get aways to enjoy each others company, but we will always hold our St John adventures warmly in our heart.

Sorry to go on and on but I just want to say that when I bought our timeshare I justified spending the money as a way to force us to take annual family vacations. Never did I imagine that we would fall in love with St John Unit 4111 week 16 and treat it like a family member we had to wait a whole year to see.

A warm thanks to all Tug members whom have helped make timesharing part of our life.
 

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I didn’t receive or see changes to the occupancy - but I was told today (when we checked in) that building 43 is not open yet and probably won’t be for months... we are beyond frustrated to say the least!

We were also told our studio in building 32 is not open yet as well.
 

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I didn’t receive or see changes to the occupancy - but I was told today (when we checked in) that building 43 is not open yet and probably won’t be for months... we are beyond frustrated to say the least!

We were also told our studio in building 32 is not open yet as well.
Unit in building 32 not ready? That's disconcerting I thought bldg 31 & 32 were open. I am hoping to be in our unit March 1st.

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Has anyone ever left a message at the check in desk for a future guest (in my case, the next person who will occupy our unit)?

If so, do you know if the future guest received the message? I know people can mail items to this resort, but not sure about leaving personal notes.

BTW, Dave's directions to 'find' the person who owns the unit the week before/after your own is spot on. My problem is that these folks don't have an address... their address is the WSJ address.
Google is your friend
 

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I didn’t receive or see changes to the occupancy - but I was told today (when we checked in) that building 43 is not open yet and probably won’t be for months... we are beyond frustrated to say the least!

We were also told our studio in building 32 is not open yet as well.

Sorry to hear that. How is your stay going/how does the resort look?
 

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Just returned from WSJ and thought I’d share our perspective since many of you are wondering what’s going on there. All things considered the resort looks great! We were told there were still about 100 units not available. The resort seemed really empty. Very few people at the main pool the couple times we went. Still a lot of construction happening, but they seem to be working quickly to try to get all units open. We own in building 31 and I believe all of those villas are open. Building 32 was not open when we got there, but my husband talked to the foreman from Vistana and he said they were working feverishly to have most of those units open by Monday. Our unit had new furniture, appliances, and carpet. Just FYI for those that like to cook during your stay like we do...the kitchen is sparse. We made do, but it’s not fully stocked the way it used to be. No colander, measuring cups, baking sheets, just to name a few. I’m sure that will get better with time. Snorkels is the only place to eat at the resort. We arrived late on the first day and had dinner there and it was terrible. On our last morning we had breakfast and that was really good.

As for the rest of the island it is remarkable the recovery. The beaches were beautiful, the foliage is coming back in most places, and the shops and restaurants appear to be in full swing. We ate at High Tide for breakfast, Miss Lucy’s for lunch and The Longboard and The Sundog for dinner and they were all as great as always. The Starfish Market wasn’t very impressive with many items out of stock, but the grocery next to the Westin was fully stocked with everything we needed and a very nice selection of items. We saw quite a few donkeys which made us super happy! The road to Little Lameshur was definitely more of an adventure even more than usual, but that didn’t seem to stop people from making the trip. We were only able to see Caneel from one of the lookouts and it is so sad to see the devastation to such a beautiful resort.

I’m happy to answer any questions if I can. It was great to be back and it was really sad to leave to come home to the cold weather. I hope everyone heading there this year has a wonderful trip!

Oh and one last thing! In my opinion, it is not worth the cost of the Westin transfer. It leaves out of Red Hook now where the public ferry is located. If you don’t mind managing your own luggage it would save you a ton of money to just take a public taxi or even a private taxi to/from Red Hook and the public ferry. We are a family of 4 and the savings is substantial.
 
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Thanks for the update.
Photos of the villa would be great?
Do you know how to post them?
Not hard depending on their source.

Was there ever a colander or baking sheets? (I’ll let Robin know...).
Was the new ferry (non-Westin) running from Crown Bay Harbor running?
Any work on B33-34?
Carpet? Our floors were tile. Did they go back to carpet?
 
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My first post as a new TUG user! As a WSJ owner who normally uses my annual week, I have a lot to learn about renting my unit. I have had good success with STJOHNCONDOS.COM in the past, but less so in 2016 and 2017. I have a classified ad in the TUG2 board for my week 17 this year; no interest yet.

Does anyone have other ideas to advertise? Is AirBNB an option (or are WSJ rentals being hurt by other AirBNB competition?)

Open to advice and ideas from the experienced TUG community!

>JP

Sorry for late response. I don’t think AirBnB is an option. I don’t think STJCONDOS gets that many hits.
Try RedWeek.com - I rent WKV and WKORV with good success.
It comes down to price and advertising (views).
Many WSJ Owners rent for MFs (or did so in past).
 

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Sorry for late response. I don’t think AirBnB is an option. I don’t think STJCONDOS gets that many hits.
Try RedWeek.com - I rent WKV and WKORV with good success.
It comes down to price and advertising (views).
Many WSJ Owners rent for MFs (or did so in past).

Appreciate the response, David. I will try RedWeek.

Question on your last like "Many WSJ Owners rent for MFs". Can you enlighten me on the MF abbreviation? Thanks

>JP
 

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MF is maintenance fees
 

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Appreciate the response, David. I will try RedWeek.

Question on your last like "Many WSJ Owners rent for MFs". Can you enlighten me on the MF abbreviation? Thanks

>JP
FYI, high season owners 51,52,1-15 ish get 1.5 to 2x maint fee for rentals.
Also recommend Redweek
 

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http://newsofstjohn.com/2019/01/07/new-ferry-service-between-st-john-and-st-thomas/

Running every day
$20 per person

The new ferry, operated by Inter Island Boat Services, leaves Crown Bay daily at 3:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m. It leaves Cruz Bay daily at 11 a.m. and 4:15 p.m. This ferry does not leave where the regular ferries leave. The Inter Island ferry leaves from the Creek, which is beside the old customs’ building and the Virgin Islands Visitor Center. It’s the ferry that has the yellow sun-like image on it.

The cost of this new ferry is $20 per person. Bags cost $5. The trip takes roughly 35 minutes. And once you arrive at Crown Bay, you can expect to pay about $5 for the five-minute taxi ride to the airport.

Please call 340-776-6597 or 340-201-6311 for more information or to reserve our spot.

http://www.interislandboatservices.com/
 

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FYI, high season owners 51,52,1-15 ish get 1.5 to 2x maint fee for rentals.
Also recommend Redweek

As well as those in high season (Plat+), but for us less fortunate owners recovery of cost is a positive outcome.

This is an issue with having ‘seasons’(old school SVO), and the HomeOptions and Flex systems are a result.
WSJ-VGV is a prime example.
and WKV...
etc.


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I recall this - but some have tried and business never lasted.

This would be an excellent route.




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I feel that I read someplace (Facebook group?) that it is the old Westin Ferry? As Westin now has a fancy new one.

Edit. No, doesn’t seem to be the same ferry. There were 250 replies to wade thru
 
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