Westin Los Cabos

[Helios]

Wasn't this resort start accepting resies on 1/1/18? Just checked and it is not accepting them yet.

 

[dioxide45]

Wasn't this resort start accepting resies on 1/1/18? Just checked and it is not accepting them yet.

Can't technically book 8 months out until 5/1/2017. So perhaps, as previously indicated, Monday may be the date to keep an eye out for availability.

 

[Helios]

right, I got the dates mixed up.

 

[mindy35]

We visited this property many years ago (OMG, looking back it was 10 years!!!) before the hurricane. We stayed at the Club Regina, which had just been turned over to Raintree, but they had an arrangement with the Westin for full use of the Hotel facilities. The land south of the Westin Hotel, which had originally been designated as the Grand Regina, had recently been abandoned by Starwood as a develop-able property for SVO.

I know that the Westin Regina Hotel had been badly damaged by the Huricane. Is that what is being re-opened in April 2017? At the time, Club Regina was no-where near the caliber of the properties Vistana Owners would expect. Has it been combined with the Westin?

I don't know the status of any of these properties and would love to know if the new Vistana/SO trading partner is the former Club Regina, new buildings on the Westin Hotel property or new development on what was once to be the Grand Regina?

FYI, knowing the topography of the Los Cabos Corridor (high cliff's over the sea) and if my memory serves me right, this was a very steep property with an unswimmable beach (very rough). This allows for many units with beautiful views, sunrises and vistas but just a different experience than Lagunamar, HI, etc.


edit: So a quick google after my post shows that Raintree lists both of the Regina properties a part of their portfolio.

https://www.raintreevacationclub.com/vacation-resorts/mexico/

now I'm really confused. Are they converting the entire Westin Hotel to timeshare?

 

[dioxide45]

Here is a screen shot from Google Maps. I believe it is only the Westin Lost Cabos (circular shaped building) that is being converted to Vistana timeshare.

 

[PamMo]

...I don't know the status of any of these properties and would love to know if the new Vistana/SO trading partner is the former Club Regina, new buildings on the Westin Hotel property or new development on what was once to be the Grand Regina?...

The Vistana timeshare property is in the Westin Hotel section of the sprawling resort property on the point. There were already some really nice, large suites in the hotel, but Vistana is converting them, and other hotel units into timeshares. For now, Raintree Vacation Club will continue to run Club Regina, and be affiliated with Grand Regina. Grand Regina has had a troubled history with the developer/management from the beginning, but the residences are definitely up to Vistana standards. I know many Grand Regina owners wanted to join Starwood, but there has been talk about that since the resort was in the building stage.

 

[r1lee]

I stayed here when it was the hotel and it was gorgeous. Reminds me a little of lagunamar on its design. Glad they turned it into timeshare, I hope vistana keeps on adding.

 

[Helios]

Can't technically book 8 months out until 5/1/2017. So perhaps, as previously indicated, Monday may be the date to keep an eye out for availability.

It's Monday, still not accepting reservations...

 

[dioxide45]

It's Monday, still not accepting reservations...

Not surprising... My guess was a long shot.

 

[SandyPGravel]

Scary...

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/index....ad-near-mexicos-los-cabos-tourist-hub.255200/

 

[NNerland]

Reservation windows are now available - but somewhat limited. I put in a few January dates and they populated. Mainly 2 bedroom 148,100. There appears to be a 176,100 option available, with low availability; so they must have a few that are either bigger or better views.

I have not been able to find a Star Options chart yet with the rates and options.

For reference and discussion as well - it doesn't appear at least early on that Los Cabos will have a low season weeks 1-4 like Cancun. That is Cancun's best value, for option value. We love that time of year and how far you can stretch your options.

 

[dioxide45]

Reservation windows are now available - but somewhat limited. I put in a few January dates and they populated. Mainly 2 bedroom 148,100. There appears to be a 176,100 option available, with low availability; so they must have a few that are either bigger or better views.

I have not been able to find a Star Options chart yet with the rates and options.

For reference and discussion as well - it doesn't appear at least early on that Los Cabos will have a low season weeks 1-4 like Cancun. That is Cancun's best value, for option value. We love that time of year and how far you can stretch your options.

The higher valued 2BR looks to be the 2BR Premium Villa, though they don't differentiate the two in the basic description in the villa finder. Though you can see when you look at the details that the higher SO 2BR has a max occupancy of 8 where the lower value one has a max occupancy of only 6.

I am not overly surprised that January is not a lower season. It doesn't really make sense that it is a lower season at Lagunamar. I wonder if they wish now that they had kept January at Lagunamar as Plat Plus?

 

[Kildahl]

At a recent owners update in California, our salesman stated that Westin Los Cabos would be available through the end of 2017 using SO or SP.

 

[GregT]

So doesn't this suggest something like WKORV's new StarOptions Chart?

176K for a premium 2BR
148K for a standard 2BR
95K for a premium 1BR
81K for a standard 1BR

Naturally, this assumes there really are 1BR's, which I still hope they do. But I would be very happy to see continued usage of the legacy points charts. I see HGVC starting to be all over with their points requirements and hope that pattern doesn't spread.

Best,

Greg

 

[SMHarman]

I didn't ask. I speculate, after all why are we all here if not to speculate wildly that.

Season weeks will look like Cancun.
1-4 being Gold Plus.
5-17 Platinum Plus

I also speculate the platinum plus points will be as below.

2Br premium sleeping 8 will be a 148100 a week unit, the 2 bed will be a 129800 unit and a studio will be 67100.

My benchmarks below.
Weather J F M
Cancun H 81 82 84 L 67 68 71.
Los Cabos 74 77 81 L 54 55 56
Bahamas 78 75 80 L 73 70 73

Los Cabos 2br premium 1206 Sq ft sleeps 8
Cancun 2br LO 1140 Sq ft sleeps 8

Los Cabos 2 bed 900 Sq ft sleeps 6
Harborside 2 bed 888 Sq ft sleeps 6

Los Cabos Studio 414 Sq ft sleeps 4
Cancun studio 400 Sq ft sleeps 4

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So doesn't this suggest something like WKORV's new StarOptions Chart?

176K for a premium 2BR
148K for a standard 2BR
95K for a premium 1BR
81K for a standard 1BR

Naturally, this assumes there really are 1BR's, which I still hope they do. But I would be very happy to see continued usage of the legacy points charts. I see HGVC starting to be all over with their points requirements and hope that pattern doesn't spread.

Best,

Greg

But this is MX not HI.

Remember WLR was pointed more like Florida at launch.

MF will be more Mexico that HI or St J as well. This is mainland not island property.

That said, we shall see which one of us is right.

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[dioxide45]

So doesn't this suggest something like WKORV's new StarOptions Chart?

176K for a premium 2BR
148K for a standard 2BR
95K for a premium 1BR
81K for a standard 1BR

Naturally, this assumes there really are 1BR's, which I still hope they do. But I would be very happy to see continued usage of the legacy points charts. I see HGVC starting to be all over with their points requirements and hope that pattern doesn't spread.

Best,

Greg

If the floor plans posted on the Vistana site are an indicator, there are no 1BR units. Only the 2BR Premium, 2BR standard and studio. I haven't seen any studio availability with the limited offerings in January and February 2018, but I suspect the studios would be 67,100 during prime, just like they are at Lagumanar.

 

[SMHarman]

So doesn't this suggest something like WKORV's new StarOptions Chart?

176K for a premium 2BR
148K for a standard 2BR
95K for a premium 1BR
81K for a standard 1BR

Naturally, this assumes there really are 1BR's, which I still hope they do. But I would be very happy to see continued usage of the legacy points charts. I see HGVC starting to be all over with their points requirements and hope that pattern doesn't spread.

Best,

Greg

Greg, looks like you were right for premium 2br (sleeps 8) and 2br (6).

There are no 1br, just studio.

I'll go with others here 67,100 for a peak week on those. Can't see those open for booking yet though.

 

[VacationForever]

Reservation windows are now available - but somewhat limited. I put in a few January dates and they populated. Mainly 2 bedroom 148,100. There appears to be a 176,100 option available, with low availability; so they must have a few that are either bigger or better views.

I have not been able to find a Star Options chart yet with the rates and options.

For reference and discussion as well - it doesn't appear at least early on that Los Cabos will have a low season weeks 1-4 like Cancun. That is Cancun's best value, for option value. We love that time of year and how far you can stretch your options.

Nevermind.. I used Feb and availability came up.

 

[cubigbird]

What's considered "premium" at the resort?? If we own a 2Bd LO at WLR could we see a bump in SO?

 

[Markus]

There was some talk about the oceanside units increasing in the same manner as the ocean front units in Maui. As an owner of one of these weeks, i would be real happy with that outcome.

Markus

 

[dioxide45]

What's considered "premium" at the resort?? If we own a 2Bd LO at WLR could we see a bump in SO?

Premium sleeps 8 where the standard only sleeps 6. So Los Cabos isn't necessarily in line with WLR. WLR sleeps 8 but only gets 148,000 SOs for Platinum Plus season where Los Cabos gets 176,000. I would think if they were going to bump WLR, they would have done so already. Perhaps the OS units could get a bump and I think that bump would make sense.

 

[SMHarman]

What's considered "premium" at the resort?? If we own a 2Bd LO at WLR could we see a bump in SO?

Usually a resort seems to need to go back into active sales for a bump to occur. WLR, like HRA is fully built out.

HRA is the real sucks to own now. 148,100 for a week with $3k MF

 

[dioxide45]

Usually a resort seems to need to go back into active sales for a bump to occur. WLR, like HRA is fully built out.

HRA is the real sucks to own now. 148,100 for a week with $3k MF

Wasn't WKORV N/S fully built out when they bumped the Ocean Front units?

 

[Markus]

They may consider doing it when they put the Cancun Westin Regina in active sales.

Markus

 

[VacationForever]

We just readjusted our reservations for 2018 and freed up a bunch of SOs to book this for May 2018. We do not need a 2BR as it is just 2 of us but we do not want a studio either. Just wish they have a 1BR. I hope 2BR is not a combination of 2 studios...