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Welk's - Where is our II account?

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Yes, exactly - this is what I see.

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For Hyatt, it's about the TDI, which for this resort is TDI 36:

Almost nothing is "low season" (TDI 50-60 - each square is 5, so the left-most two squares) at 800 Hyatt points. But it maxes out quickly and nothing is higher than 1300 Hyatt points for TDI 90-150+.

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Welk should have a similar grid like that in post #23. Check the Terms and Conditions under "Legal Information" at the bottom of the page. There should be an II Guyers Guide for Welk that include the grid.
 

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There is. When you click on a resort, there's an option to click on the Travel Demand Index

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There is. When you click on a resort, there's an option to click on the Travel Demand Index

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Do you see a grid like this on Terms and Conditions with the Welk point equivalents and for which TDI?

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Yeah, in our contract/info. I'm on my phone and can't pull it up easily but it's typically:
90k studio
120k 1BR
240k 2BR
300k 3BR
480k 4BR

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Yeah, in our contract/info. I'm on my phone and can't pull it up easily but it's typically:
90k studio
120k 1BR
240k 2BR
300k 3BR
480k 4BR

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Is there a breakdown by TDI?
 

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The only resorts with seasons for Welk are Northstar and Breck. And the points go down one step

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The only resorts with seasons for Welk are Northstar and Breck. And the points go down one step

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Thanks - for non-Welk resorts in Interval International, they define what high, mid, and low season is by the "TDI" between 50-150. So from what @Oscar923 talks about earlier in this thread, for a 2bd it would be 240k for high season, 180k for mid seasons, and 120k for low season.

But it looks like II/Hyatt defines the seasons differently from II/Welk. There would be a grid that would show for 2bd:

TDI 50-?? 120k
TDI ??-??? 180k
TDI ???-150 240k

Just wondering what the ?? are to define the seasons for Welk.
 

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Thanks - for non-Welk resorts in Interval International, they define what high, mid, and low season is by the "TDI" between 50-150. So from what @Oscar923 talks about earlier in this thread, for a 2bd it would be 240k for high season, 180k for mid seasons, and 120k for low season.

But it looks like II/Hyatt defines the seasons differently from II/Welk. There would be a grid that would show for 2bd:

TDI 50-?? 120k
TDI ??-??? 180k
TDI ???-150 240k

Just wondering what the ?? are to define the seasons for Welk.
I imagine they're the same as Hyatt, mud season is low, ski season is high

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I have not seen an equivalent table from Welk or II. I have also been having troubles logging in the Welk owners' lounge. The website was down the last few days.
Got it, that makes sense. Here are the traditional TDI ranges from Interval for other timeshare systems:

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I took another look at this thread, and based on what you showed us earlier with Marriott, it looks like:

High Season = TDI 135-150 (since Christmas week is TDI 135 for Marriott)
Mid Season = TDI 90-130
Low Season = TDI 50-85 (since you hit 120k in August, when Hyatt went to mid-season).

So something like this, probably:

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So there may be more Welk points in high season compared to Hyatt, but you can take advantage of mid/low season in Welk easier than in Hyatt.
 

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Got it, that makes sense. Here are the traditional TDI ranges from Interval for other timeshare systems:

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I took another look at this thread, and based on what you showed us earlier with Marriott, it looks like:

High Season = TDI 135-150 (since Christmas week is TDI 135 for Marriott)
Mid Season = TDI 90-130
Low Season = TDI 50-85 (since you hit 120k in August, when Hyatt went to mid-season).

So something like this, probably:

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So there may be more Welk points in high season compared to Hyatt, but you can take advantage of mid/low season in Welk easier than in Hyatt.
I looked at a few more weeks at Shadow Ridge on II. Week 19 (May 13) has a TDI of 115 and it costs 240,000. So it looks more like this:

High Season = TDI 115-150 = 240,000 Welk points needed for 2Bed
Mid Season = TDI 90-110 = 180,000
Low Season = TDI 50-85 = 120,000

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I looked at a few more weeks at Shadow Ridge on II. Week 19 (May 13) has a TDI of 115 and it costs 240,000. So it looks more like this:

High Season = TDI 115-150 = 240,000 Welk points needed for 2Bed
Mid Season = TDI 90-110 = 180,000
Low Season = TDI 50-85 = 120,000

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Just saw this today. posting here as a follow-up.
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Newbie question - Is trading via II from Welk -> Hyatt the only way for Welk owners to access Hyatt properties currently? With leading theory that sometime soon (ie; this spring) Welk points will convert to HPP Points and allow in-network access to both Hyatt and Welk properties? Based on above II ratios, it's somewhere in the range of 130-180:1 Welk:HPP points ?
 

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Newbie question - Is trading via II from Welk -> Hyatt the only way for Welk owners to access Hyatt properties currently? With leading theory that sometime soon (ie; this spring) Welk points will convert to HPP Points and allow in-network access to both Hyatt and Welk properties? Based on above II ratios, it's somewhere in the range of 130-180:1 Welk:HPP points ?
No one knows the answer. The idea that was floated around last month by a Hyatt salesperson is that a whole new system would need to be invented - maybe in the next year or two.

There is a "preferred" discount (a $55 discount) for a Hyatt user to exchange for a Welk week (probably reverse is true too) through II.

On April 1, 2022, the Welk resorts will change their name to Hyatt, but that's all that I know is confirmed at this point.
 

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No one knows the answer. The idea that was floated around last month by a Hyatt salesperson is that a whole new system would need to be invented - maybe in the next year or two.

There is a "preferred" discount (a $55 discount) for a Hyatt user to exchange for a Welk week (probably reverse is true too) through II.

On April 1, 2022, the Welk resorts will change their name to Hyatt, but that's all that I know is confirmed at this point.
Do you have a source on the April 1 date? I noticed that’s April fools day.
 

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Do you have a source on the April 1 date? I noticed that’s April fools day.
Hyatt Sales Person's verbal. But I think I've read it in independent posts on TUG. And yes, April Fool's Day! :)
 

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And I still don't have and II account... that I know of. Welks owners lounge web site has been down this week for me.
 

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Have any Welk's owners gotten access to their new Internal International accounts yet?

Feels like we should have gotten a new-account mailing in December. I didn't get anything nor do I know how to get access to my II account. The same thing happened a few years ago with the II -> RCI transition, so I'm not exactly surprised, but still this feels ... less than ideal. We are ~paying~ for a service that we don't have access to yet. It wouldn't be that big of a deal except on-going searches have an priority order (wait-list or que).

Info and rumors appreciated.

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Welk resorts use to pay our RCI fees and now we must pay II fee? Seems like Welk owners continue to get another bad deal.
 

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Welk resorts use to pay our RCI fees and now we must pay II fee? Seems like Welk owners continue to get another bad deal.
The II Gold-level membership is included in your MFs. Albeit, now you will need to pay for RCI if you want to use that service. Exchange fees are always paid by the user.
 

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Called Welks yesterday. The hold time was like ~45min. They provided me with the magic code I need to create my II account. They said that the II detail were emailed out to all owners on Jan 6th. I checked my email history and trash. I never received any such email.

They said that there are current limitations on the account linking between II and Welks. We can't book anything on the web site yet. We can set up searches and get reservation notification but we can't book online yet. We need to call II to make any bookings. They said this was a temporary limitation.
 
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