Welk's - Where is our II account?

[jboehm]

Have any Welk's owners gotten access to their new Internal International accounts yet?

Feels like we should have gotten a new-account mailing in December. I didn't get anything nor do I know how to get access to my II account. The same thing happened a few years ago with the II -> RCI transition, so I'm not exactly surprised, but still this feels ... less than ideal. We are ~paying~ for a service that we don't have access to yet. It wouldn't be that big of a deal except on-going searches have an priority order (wait-list or que).

Info and rumors appreciated.

thanks

 

[Shankilicious]

When they switched to RCI, we didn't get a login for RCI. They made a special portal that has to be used through the Welk owners lounge, using the Welk login.
II
Many Welk owners started getting emails from II with a new member ID on January 2nd. I didn't get mine until midday today, 1/5.
I had kept my II account active since 2015, through the RCI days and now I have two II accounts.
The new account is listed as a Welk Platinum Club membership. This allows Welk owners to see available II inventory without depositing.
Check your junk and spam email folders for it. It seems they're not sending out the emails all at once.

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[alameda94501]

Just curious, @Shankilicious , are you seeing a $164/wk fee to reserve Hyatt resorts on your Welk Platinum Club II membership? (Maybe even $164/wk for Marriott or Vistana too?)

I don't know much about Welk but have enjoyed your posts on understanding them better, now that (I think?) they will all have the Hyatt name by Q2 2022.

 

[Shankilicious]

I haven't seen any Hyatt available yet but everything else, no matter the unit size, has a $219 exchange fee

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[alameda94501]

I haven't seen any Hyatt available yet but everything else, no matter the unit size, has a $219 exchange fee

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Thanks. I've been on-again-off-again interested in Welk for years since I can never Hyatt-exchange into Hyatt Northstar.

How is Welk's II trading power? II is pretty opaque - we don't get to see what everyone else sees, so I'm always curious.

E.g. for Hyatt most folks have at least a 2,000 HRC point balance if they have a platinum 2bd week, and so in II we can basically grab multiple weeks (independent on the quality of the resort):

So when I do a current search for Marriott resorts, for $219 I can exchange a week along these points and can see 12mo in advance for MMS:

 

[Shankilicious]

Give me some resorts/locations to see if I can see/book them and I'll post my results.

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[alameda94501]

Give me some resorts/locations to see if I can see/book them and I'll post my results.

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Sure, if you can look at resort code MMS for the next 24mo, we can compare to what I see. Thanks!

 

[Shankilicious]

Here you. I tried to look two years out but that's all they gave me. One year. go.

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[alameda94501]

Thanks, @Shankilicious - looks like 2bd is 120,000 Welk points no matter what season.

Do you mind looking at one more resort, MGV, this has 2bd, 1bd, and studios (and 3bd around June 19):

3bd in June:

 

[Shankilicious]

So I have access to a boatload at that resort... Also a 2br is 240k usually


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[alameda94501]

So I have access to a boatload at that resort... Also a 2br is 240k usually

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Thanks @Shankilicious yes, we get the same availability as Welk, it looks like (I just didn't screencap).

Somehow the TUGBBS is making your screenshots really small, but squinting really hard it looks like Studio = 90k, 1bd = 120k, 3bd=540k?

 

[Shankilicious]

Thanks @Shankilicious yes, we get the same availability as Welk, it looks like (I just didn't screencap).

Somehow the TUGBBS is making your screenshots really small, but squinting really hard it looks like Studio = 90k, 1bd = 120k, 3bd=540k?

Man, I even paid for my TUG membership and it still doesn't like some of my pics.... 90k studio, 120k 1BR, 240k 2BR, 300k 3BR.

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[alameda94501]

Man, I even paid for my TUG membership and it still doesn't like some of my pics.... 90k studio, 120k 1BR, 240k 2BR, 300k 3BR.

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Thanks. You know, I saw that post of yours when you paid for your pics earlier - do you know it says "Guest" for your account on the forum? It's like they haven't updated your status to "TUG Member" (if you look along the posts it has each member's status beside their post). Maybe they need to update you if you paid!

 

[Shankilicious]

Eh. I may need to renew. Thanks for letting me know. I'm on my phone and can't see all that the desktop version shows

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[seagila]

My Welk II account appeared in my II portal early this week. I have 2021 points accrued into 2022. If I make an exchange in II with my Welk points, will they pull from the 2021 accrued points first before pulling the 2022 and 2023 points?

 

[flysoftware]

Welk owner here, just got off the phone with Interval to 'merge' my existing interval account (which I use for trading my Worldmark units) and the new Welk Interval account. Was told that these two accounts cannot be merged, as the Welk account is a 'corporate' account which must be separately managed for some reason. The transfer to Interval was initially welcomed by me, as I thought it would mean I wouldn't have to pay a separate Interval account. Now it turns out I still will need to. This is very disappointing, and erodes the trust that Welk built up with its members over years. Amazing how that trust can evaporate in a few minutes, so makes me wonder what other shoes will drop... like the exchange 'rights' across properties may not by symmetric unless additional tribute is paid, and then perhaps Welk only will get access into the Hyatt portfolio program, which already has limited value, from what I understand. Seems like may need to get smarter about what rights timeshare owners have, if any, in such circumstances. Are others equally disappointed / concerned?

 

[flysoftware]

Seem to be getting the run-around. The email from Interval to setup the account says to call them, which I did (only 15 minute wait), but they informed me Welk hasn't set up what they need to, so back to Welk, now caller number 58. That's about where I was yesterday when I called them originally, which took 75 minutes to get through. I recognize this is a trying time for everyone, but it is made worse when they have botched the launch of moving to II. I bet most of the calls into them right now is because of this exact problem. Grrr.

 

[RunCat]

Interval to 'merge' my existing interval account (which I use for trading my Worldmark units) and the new Welk Interval account.

Probably like others with multiple companies, I also have two II acounts ( Welk/Vistana. ). This has been true for 15 years.

 

[Oscar923]

Quick question for Welk owners: Do you see the E-plus option available when making a trade? I saw that the reservation fee being $219, but couldn't buy E-plus.
By the way, I checked the points needed for Marriott Desert Springs 2-Bedroom unit. It was 240,000 points for high season; 180,000 for mid season; and 120,000 for low season (summer).

 

[alameda94501]

Always good to get more data points on how Hyatt and Welk relate to each other - I just looked on Hyatt for Marriott Desert Springs 2-Bedroom and our Hyatt points are 1,300 for high season and 1,100 for low season.

 

[Oscar923]

Always good to get more data points on how Hyatt and Welk relate to each other - I just looked on Hyatt for Marriott Desert Springs 2-Bedroom and our Hyatt points are 1,300 for high season and 1,100 for low season.

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OK. High season at MDS would be Christmas and the winter weeks. For comparison purpose:

 

[alameda94501]

Oops, sorry I didn't know that about high season. This is what I see closer to Christmas, but I don't see availability between Christmas and New Year's.

 

[alameda94501]

(Here's how Hyatt trades into Interval, depending on Interval's TDI).

 

[Oscar923]

Oops, sorry I didn't know that about high season. This is what I see closer to Christmas, but I don't see availability between Christmas and New Year's.

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For comparison purpose. These weeks are all I can see in December at MPD.

 

[Oscar923]

(Here's how Hyatt trades into Interval, depending on Interval's TDI).

This is interesting. I tried another resort in Palm Desert (Marriott Shadow Ridge), and the high season week (Dec 23 - 30) costs 240,000 points. But it seems like a mid- or high-season week would cost the same 1,300 Hyatt points.