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Watch your car rental receipts

My only issue with Avis was in a small town in SW France.
Somehow they managed to charge me eggsactly double.
I pointed this out to corporate, and it was quickly corrected.
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We havn't had a problem in the USA or Canada with rental cars yet. Especially now days when we get an email with the final bill as we leave.

I returned a car to Maui last year and while I was waiting for the tram to arrive I received the email, which included a fraudulent fuel charge. I walked back in to the office, spoke with a flustered rep who obviously had to deal with this same issue daily, and she reversed the charge. She provided a $50 future credit, which I doubt I'll use.
 
I returned a car to Maui last year and while I was waiting for the tram to arrive I received the email, which included a fraudulent fuel charge. I walked back in to the office, spoke with a flustered rep who obviously had to deal with this same issue daily, and she reversed the charge. She provided a $50 future credit, which I doubt I'll use.

Why wouldn't you want to use this Ken ?

Bill
 
Why wouldn't you want to use this Ken ?

Bill

Not combinable with Autoslash direct reservations and I believe it expires within a year.


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Not wanting to sit on hold on customer service, I tried to DM via Twitter and it was slow. Not sure how to attach receipts and photo of fuel tank (figured that they would need proof) so emailed the request to correct. FYI here are the emails I got from Twitter since these were not posted anywhere that I could find easily.

BudgetCustomerService@budgetgroup.com
BudgetCustomerService@avisbudget.com

Not happy that they charged us for fuel when the rep noted that the fuel tank was full. What a hassle. Next time will check with the rep as checking in. Glad we had photos of the fuel guage.

These rental car companies are becoming almost as slippery as TS sales presentations.
 
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Every time I return a rental car I put the keys on the dash and take a picture of the keys, odometer, and gas level. When I get a rental car I always walk the car and take pictures of any scratches or dents before leaving the parking lot. On weeks like this one I will rent two cars in two different cities. I'm surprised how often the picture documentation with the mega data has saved me money. Hertz is the worst.

You may have seen the Hertz situation where they would report the car stolen even after it had been returned. "For years, the rental car company Hertz falsely accused hundreds of innocent customers of stealing its vehicles — accusations that, for some customers, resulted in arrests, felony charges and jail time." For that reason alone I like having a photo documenting the return.

Over the past few years I was wrongly charged for car damage, gasoline, and even a late return. The photos have paid off in every situation.
Wow, this is a great idea. I take pix of the car before I leave, but never thought to take pix of the dash when I return!!
 
Budget responded within 4 hours to our email and refunded the fuel charge (at least we think so, will need to check the statement credit in a week).

They commented, "Please note, to avoid this charge on future rentals, please ensure that you provide your fuel receipt at return."

Great. Now one more thing in addition to getting a fuel receipt, checking the final price, taking a photo of the gas and odometer, and filming the condition of the car. We rent cars about 8 times a year and over 10 years a rep has never asked us to provide the fuel receipt even though they check the fuel gauge.

@SandyPGravel Taking photos upon return is just as (if not more important) than leaving the lot because if there is any damage caused by a subsequent renter you have no proof that it was not you who caused the damage.
 
Budget responded within 4 hours to our email and refunded the fuel charge (at least we think so, will need to check the statement credit in a week).

They commented, "Please note, to avoid this charge on future rentals, please ensure that you provide your fuel receipt at return."

Great. Now one more thing in addition to getting a fuel receipt, checking the final price, taking a photo of the gas and odometer, and filming the condition of the car. We rent cars about 8 times a year and over 10 years a rep has never asked us to provide the fuel receipt even though they check the fuel gauge.

@SandyPGravel Taking photos upon return is just as (if not more important) than leaving the lot because if there is any damage caused by a subsequent renter you have no proof that it was not you who caused the damage.
The problem with that solution is that more and more Budget and Avis airport car rental returns no longer have agents to check the car in. There is nobody to show the receipt to.
 
Avis has something they can figure out how much gas is left in the tank, so even if you are 1 gallon short of fuel they will bill you for a gas charge and service fee. Last Avis rental my flight was delayed so picked up the car around 8:00 pm instead of the original 4:00 pm. I returned the car at 6:00 but was charged an extra day as they had my reservation time, not actual pick up time, as time out. Took multiple emails to get straightend out.
 
On my last car rental, on Big Island with Hertz, that was the first time I was ever asked for a gas receipt. I didn't have it since I don't get receipts since I don't work anymore. I just said I filled it, check the gauge and it was fine. I didn't fill it at one of the close gas stations either but it was fine.

Over all my years with car rentals for work or leisure, I have never been charged extra or had a mistake in billing. Maybe I've just been lucky. Over the last few years, I have kept my rentals through Hertz, Alamo and Enterprise.
 
I haven't had a problem with Hertz US but got a shakedown at Hertz UK (Inverness, Scotland). They claimed we had created superficial scratches on the car paint job by backing into a bush. Although there were other dings on the car that we may have made - they didn't charge us for them so maybe not - this was not one of them. The scratches were so superficial you could not see them at most angles and we didn't initially see it until she wiped the dirt off the back of the auto. Our photo didn't even show the scratches clearly.

They wanted us to pay $350 on the spot to settle it. I told them that they would need to work through insurance on our Chase Credit Card to resolve so refused to pay and left. We filed a claim with Chase just in case but they never pursued it.

I now wonder if the agent might have created those scratches because she found the exact spot and wiped down the dirt on just that part of the car was very deliberate. It was a very strange encounter. Will never rent Hertz again in UK or could be denied. Who knows. :shrug:
 
Avis has something they can figure out how much gas is left in the tank, so even if you are 1 gallon short of fuel they will bill you for a gas charge and service fee. Last Avis rental my flight was delayed so picked up the car around 8:00 pm instead of the original 4:00 pm. I returned the car at 6:00 but was charged an extra day as they had my reservation time, not actual pick up time, as time out. Took multiple emails to get straightend out.
I also highly suspect that if they charge for that 1 gallon short but the needle is still on Full, they don't fill it. They just take the gas charge and service fee as pure profit.
 
I haven't had a problem with Hertz US but got a shakedown at Hertz UK (Inverness, Scotland). They claimed we had created superficial scratches on the car paint job by backing into a bush. Although there were other dings on the car that we may have made - they didn't charge us for them so maybe not - this was not one of them. The scratches were so superficial you could not see them at most angles and we didn't initially see it until she wiped the dirt off the back of the auto. Our photo didn't even show the scratches clearly.

They wanted us to pay $350 on the spot to settle it. I told them that they would need to work through insurance on our Chase Credit Card to resolve so refused to pay and left. We filed a claim with Chase just in case but they never pursued it.

I now wonder if the agent might have created those scratches because she found the exact spot and wiped down the dirt on just that part of the car was very deliberate. It was a very strange encounter. Will never rent Hertz again in UK or could be denied. Who knows. :shrug:

I had a similar experience with Europcar in France. They notified me by email about a $375 or so charge but when I called to discuss it they had no idea what I was talking about, and I never heard from them again. Europcar customer service had difficulty contacting the rental location, so they ended up not following through. I had AMEX premium rental car coverage so if it was a valid item they would have been paid.


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I received a mysterious email from Enterprise Mobility yesterday (with my name). I thought it might be a phishing scam. Called the number but got voicemail - didn’t leave a message.

The email said they had been trying to reach me about damage from a recent rental and they would need my insurance or credit card info.

I emailed back asking which rental it was in relation to (without giving specifics to them - I’ve had three since early October) - and noted that none of my recent rentals had indicated any damage upon return.

The agent emailed me back quickly and stated they were closing the file and would absorb the loss. Another email with an attachment arrived in a couple minutes. I didn’t open it as I didn’t want to trigger any ransomware or virus. Given they gave up so quickly and couldn’t provide a specific rental makes me suspicious.

Not sure if it was really Enterprise - but if it was a scammer it was probably the best and most elaborate I’ve experienced.
 
I also highly suspect that if they charge for that 1 gallon short but the needle is still on Full, they don't fill it. They just take the gas charge and service fee as pure profit.

This may be what Avis did for me in Miami. It was a flat $15.99 fueling charge but didn’t stipulate how much they put in, if any. I simply disputed it via social media and said I returned the car full, and they refunded the charge. I’m just waiting for some lawyer to file a class action.


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This may be what Avis did for me in Miami. It was a flat $15.99 fueling charge but didn’t stipulate how much they put in, if any. I simply disputed it via social media and said I returned the car full, and they refunded the charge. I’m just waiting for some lawyer to file a class action.


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Yep, Budget did that to me the last time, the same incident where they used a highlighter to mark every spot on the car and asked me for proof that the car was in that condition when I took it from their lot. They charged me an extra $15 or so for fuel even though I returned full. I did not bother to dispute but I have refused to rent a Budget or Avis car ever since. It doesn't matter if their rental is the cheapest, I just won't book one.
 
What is expected from an industry that uses 1980’s technology? Watch them use their 1 dot matrix printer per 8 agent workspaces (doesn’t matter much now as only 1or 2 agents work at a time.). We had that opportunity for over an hour one night waiting in line in Orlando. The inefficiencies and outdated methods were on display for all to see and all the major companies are ran the same (or owned by each other). Covid didn’t help their business so I’m not expecting it to improve any time soon. I expect we will continue to see these mystery charges and any way to make revenue in the near future.
 
Wow. 3 rental examples just here with about $15 - $16 fuel charge tacked on at Budget or Avis (same corp), plus concession fees and taxes.

I am not sure whether this is intentional, or a bug in their antiquated systems.
 
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What is expected from an industry that uses 1980’s technology? Watch them use their 1 dot matrix printer per 8 agent workspaces (doesn’t matter much now as only 1or 2 agents work at a time.). We had that opportunity for over an hour one night waiting in line in Orlando. The inefficiencies and outdated methods were on display for all to see and all the major companies are ran the same (or owned by each other). Covid didn’t help their business so I’m not expecting it to improve any time soon. I expect we will continue to see these mystery charges and any way to make revenue in the near future.
Much of the corporate world is run on old technology. While dot matrix printers are old, they do still serve a vial purpose of being able to create duplicate or triplicate copies in a single pass. Some airlines still use these. Realize also that many bank ATMs still run on Windows XP. An operating system that is over 20 years old. I've also seen where movie theater projectors are using Windows XP. Investing in technology upgrades is expensive and would cause large disruptions in their operations while the upgrades are happening. Also consider that solving one problem usually just creates another new one somewhere else.
 
Wow. 3 rental examples just here with about $15 - $16 fuel charge tacked on at Budget or Avis (same corp), plus concession fees and taxes.

I am not sure whether this is intentional, or a bug in their antiquated systems.
I think it is new technology that is causing the fuel charges for Avis and Budget. Most of their cars now have fuel level indicators that measure to the tenth of a gallon. This is stored in the rental record, so they compare the exact level of the returned car and compare it to the level at pickup. In my one case, my returned level was one tenth of a gallon lower, so this triggered a 'refueling' charge. They really need to provide flexibility in their system to eliminate the charge when the difference is less than one gallon. I also question whether the 'pickup' fuel level is what is actually in the tank when the renter actually picks up the car. Some fuel is used when their employees service and take the car to the pick up location.
 
I think it is new technology that is causing the fuel charges for Avis and Budget. Most of their cars now have fuel level indicators that measure to the tenth of a gallon. This is stored in the rental record, so they compare the exact level of the returned car and compare it to the level at pickup. In my one case, my returned level was one tenth of a gallon lower, so this triggered a 'refueling' charge. They really need to provide flexibility in their system to eliminate the charge when the difference is less than one gallon. I also question whether the 'pickup' fuel level is what is actually in the tank when the renter actually picks up the car. Some fuel is used when their employees service and take the car to the pick up location.

Perhaps. Earlier this year I rented in Miami when they had their fuel shortage and were unable to fill the cars. So they gave me a car with 1/8 of a tank. Yup. But the printed paperwork said the tank was fuel, which meant the computer thought it was full. They hand wrote on the paperwork the actual amount. I showed that paperwork when I returned it and was assured it’s not a problem. Then I received an email with a ~$275 fuel charge. At that point I was out of the country and called… had to open a ticket and then emailed pictures of the fuel gauge before and after and the paperwork.

BTW, by not filling the tank they essentially made it my problem to find gas. And many stations in Miami at that time were closed because they had none to sell. That was fun.

This same Miami downtown location has those dot matrix printers with triplicate forms referenced earlier. They have no preferred pickup line. No status recognition. The wait after arriving via cruise was over an hour to pickup a car earlier this month (I had a similar experience at the same location once before). In the time I waited I called Avis and the rep was so surprised he offered, unprompted, a $30 credit on the reservation. I’m thinking Avis knows exactly how backwards and poorly staffed this location is and they don’t care. By the time I got to the front they ran out of cars, other than a luxury car which they wanted an extra $500 per day for… so I waited another 20 minutes for a car to be returned and cleaned. While the staff were pleasant, they were obviously dealing with a bad situation and it wasn’t their fault. But I will never rent a car here again.

Oh, even better. When I returned that car with 1/8 tank earlier this year, it was on a Sunday around 1pm. This location is the cruise ship location and provides a shuttle to the port. Well, apparently that ends at 10 or 11am on Sundays but it’s not mentioned anywhere on their website or paperwork. They laughed when I asked for a taxi. Yet all the taxis knew about this since they constantly were driving down the street waiting for people to need a ride.

Basically, Avis sucks. At least in Miami.


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It can't be the fuel gauge, as I brought it back with more fuel than they sent it out with. When I picked up the car it was already less than the F, when I returned the car, it was past the F.

So I got short changed on a Full tank, and even brought back more, and they charge me for that. LOL
 
The Avis-Budget agent at a nearby hotel from whom I rent
locally is honest and friendly.

For scrapes or dents, he'll say, "Oh, we know they've been there."
But he'll make a note of it, if you want. "No worries."

Of course, he still uses a dot-matrix printer, but it's bi-directional.
 
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